http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/01/ ... hpt=po_bn1Saying it is "unfair for Florida taxpayers to subsidize drug addiction," Gov. Rick Scott on Tuesday signed legislation requiring adults applying for welfare assistance to undergo drug screening.
"It's the right thing for taxpayers," Scott said after signing the measure. "It's the right thing for citizens of this state that need public assistance. We don't want to waste tax dollars. And also, we want to give people an incentive to not use drugs."
Under the law, which takes effect on July 1, the Florida Department of Children and Family Services will be required to conduct the drug tests on adults applying to the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. The aid recipients would be responsible for the cost of the screening, which they would recoup in their assistance if they qualify. Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.
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2The Missouri legislature is wanting to do the same thing, but we have a Democratic governor who may say no.
"Shaka, when the walls fell. Timba, his eyes wide open. Darmok and Jilad at Tenagra."
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3I don't see it as terrible. Its the same thing as living with your parents and feeling you're independent and shouldn't follow their rules.
Puffing up is no substitute for smarts but it's a common home remedy
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4Simmer down wrote:I don't see it as terrible. Its the same thing as living with your parents and feeling you're independent and shouldn't follow their rules.
I agree but at the same time, the dope addicts aren't really the main problem with welfare, the main problem is the ones who, while being drug dealers, and have no reportable income still get welfare. After that you have the institutionalized welfare famlies who've been on welfare and pretty much subsist on it for generations without ever even trying to get a job, or at lest a legal one. ..... then you have the other 90% of people on welfare who just had life hand them a sack of burning shit.
I agree we need to reform welfare to get people off of it that really don't need it, that are just abusing the system. but every solution I've come up with is objectionable for one reason or another. Course, we could get rid of welfare altogether and just implement socialism. Bam problem solved. but no, the capitalists want their saftey net to keep the poorest of the poor from rising up against them.
If I hear "crony" capitalism one more time I'm going to be ill. Capitalism is capitalism, dog eats dog and one dog ends up on top, and he defends that place with all the power he's accumulated.
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5In principle, I agree with this measure. Welfare checks should go towards food for children, not for drugs. But again, here are at least one problem and that is drug testing without reasonable suspicion. I'm concerned that this can easily lead to other legislatures for example, police can enter any house with a satellite dish on it's roof to check if the homeowner is actually using it to watch Al-Jazeera... or something like that.
"It works.........Bitches"
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6When you apply for a job, that employer can legally demand you take a drug test as a requirement for employment. Dont like it? Dont work there!
Dont want to be drug tested? Dont apply to collect welfare!!
Dont want to be drug tested? Dont apply to collect welfare!!
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7I agree, but this is that old issue of private companies vs government. Private companies can do pretty much whatever they want (they don't need legislature to approve) but government is something different.Wurble wrote:When you apply for a job, that employer can legally demand you take a drug test as a requirement for employment. Dont like it? Dont work there!
Dont want to be drug tested? Dont apply to collect welfare!!
I'm not trying to ignite a fire, but I will like to know how do you guys think about this from the legal point as well as in comparison with other legislatures being created in last few months by the republican governors?
"It works.........Bitches"
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8I guess I don't totally disagree with the law, but I just hope children don't suffer even more because their mom or dad is a drug addict.
And let me tell you somethin' bout the whole "an ant can lift a hundred times its weight" buisness, it's a myth, how much do you think an ant actually weighs--like nothin, what's nothin times a hundred....IT"S NOTHING!
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9The children suffer with or without welfare when their parents are addicts.marcgo2 wrote:I guess I don't totally disagree with the law, but I just hope children don't suffer even more because their mom or dad is a drug addict.
I work with families that include children, their parents, their grandparents, and their greatgrandparents! Who suffered through enabling with welfare? Every last one of them.
Puffing up is no substitute for smarts but it's a common home remedy
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10My problem with it is that it doesn't apply to everyone who gets any kind of gummint help, including banksters. They should be humiliated most of all.
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11It's the first thing that Rick Scott has done as governor that makes any sense at all.
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12So what about cigarettes? Alcohol? Junk food? Would it be OK to screen for those as well? I wouldn't want welfare checks subsidizing people's addictions of any kind.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected."
-G.K. Chesterton
-G.K. Chesterton
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13If he was serious about saving taxpayers money, he'd legalize and tax all those drugs he's worried about. It'd create billions of dollars in new revenue and savings.
Do the bankers who launder drug money down there have to be tested? Probably not, and they get taxpayer money at 0% interest and then charge everyone else 20% for it. He's just another idealogical con artist.
Do the bankers who launder drug money down there have to be tested? Probably not, and they get taxpayer money at 0% interest and then charge everyone else 20% for it. He's just another idealogical con artist.
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14All states should do it It might just help the folks that really need it............................
