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Carolina BBQ sauces

1 by the comedian
You guys have to try Carolina style BBQ when you are down there for the conference. SC may produce a bumber crop of politicians who embarass poor Mark but their BBQ sauces are brilliant. Try these on chopped ( not pulled ) slow roasted or smoked pork butt.
Red BBQ Sauce
1 1/2 cup apple cider vinegar
1/2 cup tomato catsup
1 Tbs packed brown sugar
1 tsp salt
1/2 tsp dried crushed red pepper
Combine all of the ingredients into a bowl and stir until the sugar dissolves. Its best to let it rest in the refrigerator for a couple of hours before serving.
This is the one people in Western Sc and NC prefer. SC makes a version with mustard and beer but space prevents me from adding it. Maybe later.
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2 by JoelB
OK guys, now you are on a subject close to my heart. The real Carolina BBQ is in North Carolina. The best is "Lexington" style although these days the absolute best is made by the real "Little Richards BBQ" on Country Club Rd in Winston-Salem. Its sort of like "Rays Pizza" in NY. There are hundreds of them but only one real one. The most important part of Lexington style is the BBQ slaw which is put on top of the chopped, wood smoked meat. Eastern North Carolina BBQ is which is mustard base is also good. My favorite beef brisket is made by Spring Creek BBQ in Ft Worth TX. The best ribs by far were made Dreamland in Tuscaloosa, AL, but sadly they were bought out and made into a chain.

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5 by JoelB
When I am in KC 2 times a year for the big gun show at the Expo Center I sometimes eat at Arthur Bryants, but its not on my list of favorites. BTW if you go to the show on a Saturday, ask for Joe Davis' table and when you find it, ask for Joel Black and say hello.

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6 by Antiquus
Memphis is pretty good for ribs. Had good (not great) ribs at the Germantown Commissary Sat night, and walked out after dinner for 2 for $32. Another really cheap place is Tom's Bar-B-Q - good meat, the sides are out of a can though, but $15 for 2 for lunch.

The best ribs I ever had was at NOLA, one of Emeril's places in the Big Easy. But that was $100 for dinner, not bad actually. St Louis has a damn fine rib joint - Pappy's Smokehouse - cheap and awesome good.

Really, the chains like Famous Dave's and Damon's have raised the bar a bit for ribs, they do a good job and the little places have to work a bit to beat them.

At home, we buy Barbecue sauce from the Sonny's chain, and that's pretty good.
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7 by ErikO
BBQ here in St Louis has been good so far. I'm blessed with a neighbor that has a family recipe that totally kicks my tastebuds into overdrive. They cook for their church about once a quarter and for $7 you get about four pounds of food.

Near Williston, SC, I was taken to a smallish BBQ place that was awesome. I dont' know the name, but their lunch buffet was cheap and very very tasty.
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9 by JoelB
[quote="ErikO"]BBQ here in St Louis has been good so far. I'm blessed with a neighbor that has a family recipe that totally kicks my tastebuds into overdrive. They cook for their church about once a quarter and for $7 you get about four pounds of food.

I forgot to mention that in Ft Lauderdale, FL there was a Minster of a predominently African American church on the south side of West Sunrise Hwy who would make ribs in the alley between his Church and a gas station to raise money. They were excellent.

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10 by Oldskool
There are two types made here and it's taken somewhat seriously, similar to Duke/Carolina games. Remember when Michelle Obama mentioned Charlotte bbq last year? Caused quite a stir. From a funny WaPo article in 2005:

"People who would put ketchup in the sauce they feed to innocent children are capable of most anything," Rogers told his readers in the Raleigh News & Observer after word leaked about the barbecue festival bill. "Let the word go forth from this time and place that we, the Eastern North Carolina purveyors of pure barbecue, will not be roadkill for our western kin."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00866.html

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12 by Porkroast
the comedian wrote:You guys have to try Carolina style BBQ when you are down there for the conference. SC may produce a bumber crop of politicians who embarass poor Mark but their BBQ sauces are brilliant. Try these on chopped ( not pulled ) slow roasted or smoked pork butt.
Red BBQ Sauce
1 1/2 cup apple cider vinegar
1/2 cup tomato catsup
1 Tbs packed brown sugar
1 tsp salt
1/2 tsp dried crushed red pepper
Combine all of the ingredients into a bowl and stir until the sugar dissolves. Its best to let it rest in the refrigerator for a couple of hours before serving.
This is the one people in Western Sc and NC prefer. SC makes a version with mustard and beer but space prevents me from adding it. Maybe later.

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13 by Oldskool
"North Carolina's well-held myth says that the state's dueling barbecue styles are separated by the "Gnat Line," an invisible barrier that separates the sandy soil that attracted gnats to the east and the denser rocky and clay soil of the Piedmont Region to the west.

But the Gnat Line has been breached. West is creeping east, and east is creeping west, though not always in the smoothest of fashions. When a man had the temerity to open an eastern-style barbecue joint in Lexington last year, the newspapers called him "a heretic." He got fed up with the business and leased the place to an employee. The new guy got wise: He serves only western style now."

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14 by eelj
I like adding just a little bit of liquid smoke to my sauces. Plus I like the red sauces best. I have a pork butt sitting in the frig right now in the dry rub for tomorrow. I guess I'll be up at five am.
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15 by Sonofagun
I put catchup on everything I can't keep up with.

My favorite sauce for grilling meat is Cattleman's Original. But with that I add chili powder, garlic salt, fresh garlic, more garlic, crushed black pepper corns, finely chopped red onions, finely chopped pinapple, Captian Morgan's spiced rum or some kind of bourbon and Tobasco brand habenaro pepper sauce.

I haven't had a Carolina sauce I didn't like. I'm gonna try that recipe, but I'll probably have to add some habenaro pepper sauce. Thanks.
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16 by JoelB
Even though we live in WI, I don't trust anyone from the Midwest when it comes to BBQ. When "Famous Dave" who started out in Mpls/StP was going to open a place in Madison, WI he did an interview on our local NPR station. He talked about Lexington, Dreamland and the old Herberts BBQ in Franklin, TN. The day it opened, my wife who is from the Piedmont of NC and I were there. It was awful. We tried both the Western and Eastern NC BBQ. I knew we were in trouble when the former showed up with mayonnaise coleslaw on it.

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17 by eelj
JoelB wrote:Even though we live in WI, I don't trust anyone from the Midwest when it comes to BBQ. When "Famous Dave" who started out in Mpls/StP was going to open a place in Madison, WI he did an interview on our local NPR station. He talked about Lexington, Dreamland and the old Herberts BBQ in Franklin, TN. The day it opened, my wife who is from the Piedmont of NC and I were there. It was awful. We tried both the Western and Eastern NC BBQ. I knew we were in trouble when the former showed up with mayonnaise coleslaw on it.
When I was growing up in MPLS I lived within walking distance to Ted Cooks 19th hole. Strictly take out and back then he had a pit. Best ribs and chicken I've ever had. The guy running it now doesn't use the old pit from what I have heard haven't been there in years. I barbecue my own. To me the big trick is tending the pit, keeping the temperature at around 210.
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Carolina BBQ sauces

18 by Paladin
masonalannz wrote:There is no fucking ketchup in NC BBQ! :evil:
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20 by the comedian
Sonofagun wrote:I put catchup on everything I can't keep up with.

My favorite sauce for grilling meat is Cattleman's Original. But with that I add chili powder, garlic salt, fresh garlic, more garlic, crushed black pepper corns, finely chopped red onions, finely chopped pinapple, Captian Morgan's spiced rum or some kind of bourbon and Tobasco brand habenaro pepper sauce.

I haven't had a Carolina sauce I didn't like. I'm gonna try that recipe, but I'll probably have to add some habenaro pepper sauce. Thanks.
Well, nobody else likes to admit, but Texans are the Einsteins of BBQ. Who the fuck else would combine a dry rub with beef brisket? Brilliant...
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21 by AmirMortal
I'm not sure how to sort this out, but I'm not a big fan of mustard or vinegar based bbq sauces. I tend to like sweet and spicy styles, most often red. These guys have some great stuff going, though I usually look for sauces that don't have corn syrup, as it tends to get bitter when it scorches or even just browns.

The best bbq I ever had the pleasure of eating was at a college graduation I was working, and it was brought to us for lunch. I was blown away! The ribs were gently falling off the bone, and the brisket so full of flavor that I almost didn't want the sauces they had with it all, but the sauces were mind blowing too. All I got for info that day is that it was a church volunteer group that was local the the place that had started the cookout before dawn. I wish I'd gotten some contact info out of that one.
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22 by DukeNukemIncarnate
The best damn pig or lamb you'll ever have is in the Balkans, predominantly in Bosnia. I'm talking about animal that was mounted on the stake and slooowly, for hours rotated over hot coals. The only treatment was rubbing it with salt beforehand and then during hours of slow roasting, occasionally sprinkled with beer.

You eat that and you know how Zeus or Thor must felt. I accidentally discovered that lamb meat prepared like that goes fantastically with some fresh red cherries. And don't forget a lots of beer!
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23 by mark
I do like good NC vinegar BBQ with slaw on it. Its one of my favorites.

But mustard based takes the cake. There will be some at the meeting.

Just remember, BBQ is a noun and everything will be alright.







I have eaten at this guys joint many many times - when he is on his game its freakin spectacular. But its inconsistent.





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24 by AmirMortal
OK, I have to retract my statement concerning mustard and BBQ. I said that I'm not a big fan of mustard based sauces, but today I caught myself adding a hearty horseradish based mustard to my pulled pork sandwich, and while I do typically shy away from the yellow sauces, I realized that this is far from the first time I've added mustard to my bbq sandwiches. I still hold about the vinegar based stuff, but maybe I just haven't had a good recipe. :unsure:
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25 by JoelB
mvelimir wrote:I suggest that all the participants of this debate bring samples of BBQ sauces with them to the meeting. I'll bring samples of local houses (Bono's and Sonny's). There are better ones in Florida, but I have no time to track all those down right now.
I can see by your mention of Sonny's and Bono's, you have never tried Park BBQ in S.E. FL.
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