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CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:36 pm
by stickman
And not a single word on what caliber to stockpile!

http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:01 pm
by Caliman73
stickman wrote:And not a single word on what caliber to stockpile!

http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp
I think that one has been done to death! I suppose the CDC has to go with the flow to get the younger generations to be thinking about emergency preparedness.

I am prepared for the Zombie Apocalypse. Are YOU!?! :thumbup:

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:08 pm
by neotrotsky
Ammo stockpiling is more of the realm of the department of defense if you ask me. They just want to keep awareness of the bug...er... I mean, what bug? It's all just "fantasy" right? :whistle:

But, on a more related note: It's ironic this comes out today on my day off, since I'm running errands to actually update and put together a legit med kit for our house in case of emergencies. Last night a co-worker sliced their hand up pretty good, and the in-store medkit was just a bunch of band aides and some ibuprofen. Seeing that and knowing how I'm more likely to mangle myself got me thinking that, even if the rapture doesn't go all haywire on Saturday, we really need something better to stitch people up just in case.

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:23 pm
by ABNinfantryman
Yeah a Zombie Apocalypse would last all of two seconds. I don't see many undead surviving a barrage of machine gun fire.

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:58 pm
by Caliman73
neotrotsky wrote:Ammo stockpiling is more of the realm of the department of defense if you ask me. They just want to keep awareness of the bug...er... I mean, what bug? It's all just "fantasy" right? :whistle:

But, on a more related note: It's ironic this comes out today on my day off, since I'm running errands to actually update and put together a legit med kit for our house in case of emergencies. Last night a co-worker sliced their hand up pretty good, and the in-store medkit was just a bunch of band aides and some ibuprofen. Seeing that and knowing how I'm more likely to mangle myself got me thinking that, even if the rapture doesn't go all haywire on Saturday, we really need something better to stitch people up just in case.
Ever since the Indonesian Tsunami I have been more into preparing for emergencies. I am by no means, a prepper with mills and a farm and all that. I have some food, shelter options, some minor medical supplies, water of course, and some protection. You are totally right, the kits they sell at the store are a travesty. You can get some pretty decent ones on Amazon though. They sell some pretty extensive ones at Cheaper Than Dirt as well.

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:03 pm
by neotrotsky
Caliman73 wrote:
neotrotsky wrote:Ammo stockpiling is more of the realm of the department of defense if you ask me. They just want to keep awareness of the bug...er... I mean, what bug? It's all just "fantasy" right? :whistle:

But, on a more related note: It's ironic this comes out today on my day off, since I'm running errands to actually update and put together a legit med kit for our house in case of emergencies. Last night a co-worker sliced their hand up pretty good, and the in-store medkit was just a bunch of band aides and some ibuprofen. Seeing that and knowing how I'm more likely to mangle myself got me thinking that, even if the rapture doesn't go all haywire on Saturday, we really need something better to stitch people up just in case.
Ever since the Indonesian Tsunami I have been more into preparing for emergencies. I am by no means, a prepper with mills and a farm and all that. I have some food, shelter options, some minor medical supplies, water of course, and some protection. You are totally right, the kits they sell at the store are a travesty. You can get some pretty decent ones on Amazon though. They sell some pretty extensive ones at Cheaper Than Dirt as well.
Luckily the proliferation of both dollar stores and medical supply companies in Arizona (we are one of the biggest retiree havens and therefore rife with joints that sell everything medical to any joe schmo on the street for cheap), you can actually get a decent emergency preparedness kit for very little coin! A little creativity and a little added each paycheck can yield a decent rubbermaid bin full of the stuff you need if bad times hit. Shove it in the hall closet, check it every month or so to see if stuff is still in-date and you're good to go :thumbup:

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:21 pm
by ABNinfantryman
Caliman73 wrote:I am by no means, a prepper with mills and a farm and all that.
Me either, thats why I plan on killing conservative survivalists and taking their shit. "Dim dam librullls dun deed dis." BANG "Hey babe, free ammo!"

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:54 pm
by neotrotsky
The funny thing about "career preparedness" nutters is that they are doing it ALL wrong, thinking that they must prepare for the entire world somehow reverting back to the stone age, and they will be the ONLY ones with resources having to fend off the rest of the world in their own little Mad Max world. I cannot tell you how many times on the survival section of the "other" gun forum I was called a "naive liberal" and worse for including a fully charged netbook and a prepaid cellphone in my list of stuff to "bug out" with. They seem to think that the moment any form of natural disaster or civil unrest hits, we will somehow as a species lose all knowledge of computers, engineering and programming and that networks will just disappear. Then I mention that any two computers can form a network, wired or wireless, and that it really doesn't take too much effort to set up a local area network or to jump onto one, and then they claim "Yeah, but that's worthless when you're begging for scraps from those of us who are preparing for the REAL breakdown of society!

Then there's the constant insistence that everyone who lives in a city is an idiot, and that anyone who stays in one deserves to die because cities are havens for uneducated liberals and cannot support life blah blah blah....

:yawn:

I just rank it up to a group of people who cannot function in society, so they eagerly await a fantasy world where they can function. Sadly, that world requires constant violence, a lack of education and technology and events on their terms. Life rarely works that way and people, by nature, are alot more kind and constructive than the average Redneck wants to be. Even Katrina didn't destroy New Orleans... no matter how hard those same Rednecks wanted it to happen.

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:57 am
by Zapp Brannigan
neotrotsky wrote:The funny thing about "career preparedness" nutters is that they are doing it ALL wrong, thinking that they must prepare for the entire world somehow reverting back to the stone age, and they will be the ONLY ones with resources having to fend off the rest of the world in their own little Mad Max world. I cannot tell you how many times on the survival section of the "other" gun forum I was called a "naive liberal" and worse for including a fully charged netbook and a prepaid cellphone in my list of stuff to "bug out" with. They seem to think that the moment any form of natural disaster or civil unrest hits, we will somehow as a species lose all knowledge of computers, engineering and programming and that networks will just disappear. Then I mention that any two computers can form a network, wired or wireless, and that it really doesn't take too much effort to set up a local area network or to jump onto one, and then they claim "Yeah, but that's worthless when you're begging for scraps from those of us who are preparing for the REAL breakdown of society!

Then there's the constant insistence that everyone who lives in a city is an idiot, and that anyone who stays in one deserves to die because cities are havens for uneducated liberals and cannot support life blah blah blah....

:yawn:

I just rank it up to a group of people who cannot function in society, so they eagerly await a fantasy world where they can function. Sadly, that world requires constant violence, a lack of education and technology and events on their terms. Life rarely works that way and people, by nature, are alot more kind and constructive than the average Redneck wants to be. Even Katrina didn't destroy New Orleans... no matter how hard those same Rednecks wanted it to happen.
Seeing as you brought up netbooks and zombie outbreaks; I have to ask have you seen the movie Diary of the Dead?

I do agree with you when you say things will still function when SHTF. Take Baghdad in 2007, during the peak of sectarian fighting, I remember reading a news article about how people in Baghdad where using internet forums to communicate with each other. They where reporting areas in which death squads or cops in cahoots with the death squads where operating really sobering stuff. I remember one translated post that said "Police are in cahoots with the soldiers shoot them if they enter the neighborhood, Iraqi soldiers, however, are not."

Also good mention on Dollar stores for emergency gear they are way overlooked. Also you guys in Arizona have the 99 Cents only store we have one in my neighborhood and they are nifty little shop, scored two frozen California Pizza Kitchens there for 2 bucks each today.

Also regards to Caliman for posting this first.
http://www.survival-spot.com/survival-b ... ollapse/#1

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:59 am
by neotrotsky
Never saw Diary of The Dead. I tend to be picky with my zed movies, since so many are done SO badly... and the bad ones aren't even entertaining!

It's surprising how many dollar store chains popped up during the recession, and how much stuff they score on overstock, out-of-date or product change from major megacorps. Just today we saw PALLETS of Pepsi 2 liters for a buck each when they're going for 1.68 to 2 bucks everywhere else... and that stuff is ALWAYS in demand! We went there to pick up stuff for the first aide kit, and some of the basics that I realized we don't even have in the house anymore since we moved and everything got shuffled! Multiple flashlights, duct tape, batteries, several bottles of hydrogen peroxide and rubbing alcohol (.79 cents each on those! Although in Meth-topia they actually LOCK UP the hydrogen peroxide and iodine) and a host of other things you never even think of for cheap. Even picked up a hand saw for a buck! Yeah, it's a cheap bit of Pakistani steel with a plastic handle, but it's a BUCK! And, it works. The only thing I forgot to pick up was another 5 gallon water jug simply because it slipped my mind.

Of course, there is stuff you can't skimp on price but even then you can buy smart. In our little "Emergency Tupperware" (the name we give to the SHTF box in the hall closet), I even keep a spare Hi-Point .380 and 50 rounds. Picked it up from a Tea-Bagger for $99 who insisted that it was a "blackie's" gun and refused to even pull it out of the box for fear of being seen with a "criminal gun" :think: Come to think of it, I have no idea how I resisted beating the guy over the head for being such a douche. But, a cheap never-fired pistol with ammo for 100 is worth biting your tongue.

Along with that we have enough food for a few weeks (basic pastas, rice, canned bits) and I always make sure I have a spare 5 gallon propane tank filled and on the grill since the closest thing we get to natural disasters in Arizona are power outages and water outages, which are bad when summer temps top 120 degrees and all utilities are electric only. The only thing we're lacking is a solar charger and, eventually when we can afford to move into a house, a small petrol generator.

Either way, it's a reliable backup that you don't have to think about, and if you do things right you can be prepared without it taking over your entire life. If the CDC can get the word out by being prepared and understanding how infrastructure works in your city by co-opting the Zombie fad, then I say go for it!

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:21 am
by KVoimakas
ABNinfantryman wrote:
Caliman73 wrote:I am by no means, a prepper with mills and a farm and all that.
Me either, thats why I plan on killing conservative survivalists and taking their shit. "Dim dam librullls dun deed dis." BANG "Hey babe, free ammo!"
+1

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:15 am
by gendoikari87
stickman wrote:And not a single word on what caliber to stockpile!

http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp
.22 LR for headshots and ammo availibility, other good calibers are 9mm, .45acp, 5.56NATO and .7.62x39R

basically the top five most popular calibers.

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:30 am
by KVoimakas
gendoikari87 wrote:
stickman wrote:And not a single word on what caliber to stockpile!

http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp
.22 LR for headshots and ammo availibility, other good calibers are 9mm, .45acp, 5.56NATO and .7.62x39R

basically the top five most popular calibers.
What, no real rifle round in there at all? Tsk tsk. .22LR, .45ACP, 7.62x54R are what I'm stockpiling...

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:33 am
by gendoikari87
KVoimakas wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
stickman wrote:And not a single word on what caliber to stockpile!

http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp
.22 LR for headshots and ammo availibility, other good calibers are 9mm, .45acp, 5.56NATO and .7.62x39R

basically the top five most popular calibers.
What, no real rifle round in there at all? Tsk tsk. .22LR, .45ACP, 7.62x54R are what I'm stockpiling...
Good luck finding the 7.62x54R when you run out.

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:41 am
by KVoimakas
gendoikari87 wrote:Good luck finding the 7.62x54R when you run out.
With the cost of 7.62x54R right now, how soon would I run out? And in spam cans...it would last forever. They also make 7.62x54R in the US.

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:17 am
by gendoikari87
KVoimakas wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:Good luck finding the 7.62x54R when you run out.
With the cost of 7.62x54R right now, how soon would I run out? And in spam cans...it would last forever. They also make 7.62x54R in the US.
isn't 7.62x54R like a buck a round? Cause in the zombie apocalypse you're going to need about a million rounds maybe more. You don't just need to be able to stock pile it. You need to be able to find it and pick it up.

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:21 am
by KVoimakas
gendoikari87 wrote:
KVoimakas wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:Good luck finding the 7.62x54R when you run out.
With the cost of 7.62x54R right now, how soon would I run out? And in spam cans...it would last forever. They also make 7.62x54R in the US.
isn't 7.62x54R like a buck a round? Cause in the zombie apocalypse you're going to need about a million rounds maybe more. You don't just need to be able to stock pile it. You need to be able to find it and pick it up.
880 rounds for less than $200 shipped. Makes it less than 23 cents a round. Steel core too...

I know of a couple places nearby that stock 7.62x54R just here in town. So, I'd be able to obtain some. As an aside, you wouldn't be using a full power rifle for close in work. It'd be long distance stuff and hunting. The .45ACP and .22LR are the close in rounds.

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:28 am
by gendoikari87
Thing about .22lr round for zombie nullification is that you really do need the high velocity stuff. CCI mini mags, Stingers stuff like that. Though granted, those will still be plentiful. but here's what I'd have from my zombie bug out kit.

Glock 17 9mm (Main Pistol, 30 round mag)
Ruger Mark III 22/45 (backup with CCI mini mags)
5.56NATO AK platform (main rifle)
.308/7.62NATO kel tec RFB (back at base)

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:30 am
by KVoimakas
gendoikari87 wrote:Thing about .22lr round for zombie nullification is that you really do need the high velocity stuff. CCI mini mags, Stingers stuff like that. Though granted, those will still be plentiful. but here's what I'd have from my zombie bug out kit.

Glock 17 9mm (Main Pistol, 30 round mag)
Ruger Mark III 22/45 (backup with CCI mini mags)
5.56NATO AK platform (main rifle)
.308/7.62NATO kel tec RFB (back at base)
I wouldn't be going anywhere. Home is where the heart is...and where my cache is...

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:37 am
by gendoikari87
KVoimakas wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:Thing about .22lr round for zombie nullification is that you really do need the high velocity stuff. CCI mini mags, Stingers stuff like that. Though granted, those will still be plentiful. but here's what I'd have from my zombie bug out kit.

Glock 17 9mm (Main Pistol, 30 round mag)
Ruger Mark III 22/45 (backup with CCI mini mags)
5.56NATO AK platform (main rifle)
.308/7.62NATO kel tec RFB (back at base)
I wouldn't be going anywhere. Home is where the heart is...and where my cache is...
yeah well I live in georgia, these people are a hair away from being cannibals BEFORE zombification. So imma GTOFMF

CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:32 pm
by Paladin
I have two large cemeteries a block from my house I think I'm screwed.

Re: CDC on the zombie apocalypse

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:56 pm
by stickman
I got something like a thousand rounds of mixed 7.62x39, .22LR and 9x18, should get me to the nearest gun store at least. Plus the 25 gallons of home brew in the basement and I'm good!