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With me you get what it is... If you don't believe me, ask Mark.

Anyhoo, this subject is among many reasons it's good to get together, within local chapters or at annual LGC meeting. LGC is also on Facebook and some of us are friends of it's page and through FB we get to communicate, see photos, etc...

mvelimir wrote:With me you get what it is... If you don't believe me, ask Mark.

Yes, he is equally frightening in person.

Guess I am the twisted one. I would have thought that with the anonymity, real or imagined, one would be more incline to be honest about themselves and their respective experience/opinion, rather than embellish.

It is pretty apparent however, that living one's alter ego, so to speak, is considered the norm.

You do realize that this would make a very interesting basis for a graduate thesis, right up there I think with the prisoner/guard study of years ago...not quite a Masters and Johnson thing mind you, but enlightening never the less.

rolandson wrote:Guess I am the twisted one.

I wouldn't say twisted, just optimistic.

mark wrote:

mvelimir wrote:With me you get what it is... If you don't believe me, ask Mark.

Yes, he is equally frightening in person.

I say ban the lying fucker and offer a $100 bounty to the person who kicks that asshole in the place where his nuts used to be, $200 if a woman does it. Total dishonesty from the get-go.

I would be cool to be able to somehow authenticate people's identity on the forum. I started posting on defensivecarry.org but they turned out to be right wing, TEOTWAWKI nut cases that lug a cross around when convenient. After finding this place I don't post on any other gun forums.

I am only a sniper when I'm doing my part time astronaut gig. Otherwise I am a male stripper specializing in high end private parties at zoos.

I agree with the sentiment that I am often more open and honest on this forum than i am with most people in real life just because I do not wish to disrupt my career by arguing politics, since that is not something i regularly share with my employers. (unfortunately, I don't have much if a life these days outside of work or this forum.) I've had several extensive connotations with mark, and he can confirm that I'm just as much of an idiot in person on the phone... MVelimir could probably attest to this too.

AmirMortal wrote:I am only a sniper when I'm doing my part time astronaut gig. Otherwise I am a male stripper specializing in high end private parties at zoos.

I agree with the sentiment that I am often more open and honest on this forum than i am with most people in real life just because I do not wish to disrupt my career by arguing politics, since that is not something i regularly share with my employers. (unfortunately, I don't have much if a life these days outside of work or this forum.) I've had several extensive connotations with mark, and he can confirm that I'm just as much of an idiot in person on the phone... MVelimir could probably attest to this too.

Yup! Amir is an idiot.

mvelimir wrote:Yup! Amir is an idiot.

ABNinfantryman wrote:

mvelimir wrote:Yup! Amir is an idiot.

we need a smiley for a dunce cap...

Inquisitor wrote:The Internet is wierd. We CANNOT see body language, hear tone, see facial expressions, get ANY of the clues we use in day to day conversation. Yet, we pretend we can. we assign identity to these faceless foes based on people we know, and then hear THEIR voices and see THEIR faces.

Which leads to a lot of wierd interactions between people who would probably be happy to have a beer with one another

This is pretty much it, and the fact is that interwebz denizens have a different way of thinking, and react differently compared to RL, because the references and boundary conditions are very much different. Much of the context is in the individual's mind, so interactions often become hostile because people's insecurities get projected and magnified several orders of magnitude online. That, and the Walter Mitty syndrome many suffer from combine to form an abnormal online persona that doesn't really have much to do with the person's everyday character in real life.

ABNinfantryman wrote: And allow me to add, I hope to see AdAstra and ArmedLeftist at the meet, I'm sure most of the friction between us has been poor translation of my thoughts to word on my part.

It's interesting you say that. I did not translate our posts into any sort of real-life grudge or animosity, mainly because these haven't become trailer trash-type exchanges where it degenerated into comments on each other's ancestry, genitals, sexual preferences or intellectual capacities. In fact, though vigorous, those were relatively pleasant compared to some of the exchanges I've had in other fora, and I tend to agree with many of the other things you say.

And to be fair, I'm not as anal outside of the webz - my terms of personal reference and context often get displaced when I'm online, I start to take myself too seriously and my prejudices and sense of self-righteousness get amplified several notches when interacting in online fora.

I'd really like to go to the meets because most of the people here (apart from a select few, who are mostly gone) seem very interesting, but job and young daughter keep me very close to home. Wouldn't have it any other way though!

GlockLobster wrote: After finding this place I don't post on any other gun forums.

Me too

I'm pretty much the same difficult, opinionated asshole in person, although Mark says I'm kinda quiet. I don't post on any other forums - I have a job, toddler, wife, garden, old sailboat, older house, hunting season and a ten meter airgun range in my garage. Life is full.

I scuba dive in Lake Superior with just a speedo on and when I come out of the water women still swoon.

I have stopped post on the motorcycle forum I used to be on. They had a decent weapons section that is where I met my dealer that keeps me supplied in interesting things. There are way too many conservatards on the interwebz.

ABNinfantryman wrote: And allow me to add, I hope to see AdAstra and ArmedLeftist at the meet, I'm sure most of the friction between us has been poor translation of my thoughts to word on my part.

Unfortunately, I can't make the meet but I gotta say that's a pretty standup olive-branch. Appreciate it.

There's no doubt that I tend to take people literally on The Nets and that's problematic because, as has been pointed out before, the medium simply doesn't lend itself to nuance. I obviously read you incorrectly.

AdAstra wrote: And allow me to where it degenerated into comments on each other's ancestry, genitals, sexual preferences or intellectual capacities.

If anybody starts giving me the business about my enormous genitals, I'm really gonna be offended.

;-)

eelj wrote:I scuba dive in Lake Superior with just a speedo on and when I come out of the water women still swoon.

i bet they do.

and yeah, I thought mason was sort of quiet.

Speaking of quiet..... where the hell has the comedian been lately? he has been awful quiet.

This is a great thread Cali. It took me a long time to find a place I can be honest without getting my ass kicked. Amir describes it best for me and better than I can all the time. Honesty is easy for me partly because I don't give a fuck, partly because I think people deserve the truth especially if it's bad and partly because I want an accurate reaction. I'm interested in learning the truth by being truthfull in my questions. I can't stand fiction and games and cartoon bullshit sidetracking. Inquisitor makes point here at a level we should all understand and appreciate, that even a dishonest one can't deny. A lier can be pointed out at his every mistake. And Rolandson hit it right as far as I'm concerned, why lie if knowone is looking into your eye. Makes for a strange charactor in my book. One fault of mine is maybe saying too much, saying things and thinking later maybe is wasn't right, blurting out rude shit and looking back for a reaction, yeah I'm guilty, but not to the point of offending. I hate to hurt anyone who doesn't deserve it, yet I know I ain't perfect and capable of being a dick even if I mean no real harm. I would like to meet everyone on here for atleast a one time if not more face to face, shake hands or whatever and then we know a little more than a screen with typed words. Facial and body expression and tone can be essential to accurate perception and communication, but everyone here seems to be pretty good at getting it right and making it clear. Another reason I live here on this site and long gone to the others I've tried. Beretta Forum has it down from what I've experienced and I check it once in a while, but it's not home. ArmedLeftest you said it brother, exactly what gets me in trouble is taking everything literally and personally. Oh well, I'm getting better. Thanks for this opportunity Cali, and maybe someday I'll have the opportunity to shake hands with some of you distant bastards. I'd like to meet Irishman, who made my holster and Mark and the rest of you guys but not Inquisitor, he scares me, he's too fuckin honest.

Sonofagun wrote:This is a great thread Cali. It took me a long time to find a place I can be honest without getting my ass kicked. Amir describes it best for me and better than I can all the time. Honesty is easy for me partly because I don't give a fuck, partly because I think people deserve the truth especially if it's bad and partly because I want an accurate reaction. I'm interested in learning the truth by being truthfull in my questions. I can't stand fiction and games and cartoon bullshit sidetracking. Inquisitor makes point here at a level we should all understand, even a dishonest one can't deny. A lier can be pointed out at his every mistake. And Rolandson hit it right as far as I'm concerned, why lie if knowone is looking into your eye. Makes for a strange charactor in my book. One fault of mine is maybe saying too much, saying things and thinking later maybe is wasn't right, blurting out rude shit and looking back for a reaction, yeah I'm guilty, but not to the point of offending. I hate to hurt anyone who doesn't deserve it, yet I know I ain't perfect and capable of being a dick even if I mean no real harm. I would like to meet everyone on here for atleast a one time if not more face to face, shake hands or whatever and then we know a little more than a screen with typed words. Facial and body expression and tone can be essential to accurate perception and communication, but everyone here seems to be pretty good at getting it right and making it clear. Another reason I live here on this site and long gone to the others I've tried. Beretta Forum has it down from what I've experienced and I check it once in a while, but it's not home. ArmedLeftest you said it brother, exactly what gets me in trouble is taking everything literally and personally. Oh well, I'm getting better. Thanks for this opportunity Cali, and maybe someday I'll have the opportunity to shake hands with some of you distant bastards. I'd like to meet Irishman, who made my holster and Mark and the rest of you guys but not Inquisitor, he scares me, he's too fuckin honest.

Ha. So what was the final verdict on you coming to the meeting?

Mark I'm sorry but I don't think it's possible. I'm not sure we're even going to NY at this point. $$$!

Sonofagun wrote:Mark I'm sorry but I don't think it's possible. I'm not sure we're even going to NY at this point. $$$!

Sorry to hear that. Well, buy a couple of raffle tickets --- you might get some good shit. Or some crap I am throwing in to stir things up.

mark wrote:

Sonofagun wrote:Mark I'm sorry but I don't think it's possible. I'm not sure we're even going to NY at this point. $$$!

Sorry to hear that. Well, buy a couple of raffle tickets --- you might get some good shit. Or some crap I am throwing in to stir things up.

I think I bought some or one I forget,. Let me check that out again.

This is why I love this place. Excellent conversation. I can't make the meet this year, but I have it as a personal goal to make it to the 3rd annual.