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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 6878.story

Ginsburg is the lone dissent:
"How 'secure' do our homes remain if police, armed with no warrant, can pound on doors at will and …forcibly enter?" Ginsburg asked.

I tend to agree.

AdAstra wrote:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 6878.story

Ginsburg is the lone dissent:
"How 'secure' do our homes remain if police, armed with no warrant, can pound on doors at will and …forcibly enter?" Ginsburg asked.

I tend to agree.

FUCK this is the first step. We need to ogranize LIKE NOW

The potential for abuse is just too much - not mentioning the mistaken identity cases, and lack of probable cause prior. I'm really surprised 8 of the justices went for it.

This is insanity! And nobody can tell me now that SCOTUS is conservative or liberal controlled - it's controlled by Satan!

AdAstra wrote:The potential for abuse is just too much - not mentioning the mistaken identity cases, and lack of probable cause prior. I'm really surprised 8 of the justices went for it.

Getting paid through the backdoor by private security companies i would bet.

Fascism comes wrapped in the supreme court.

WTF! WTF!! WTF!!!!

Is this at all surprising? After all, five of the SCOTUS judges are owned by the Koch Brothers

SamuraiCowboy wrote:Is this at all surprising? After all, five of the SCOTUS judges are owned by the Koch Brothers

Must.... Resist .... Urge..... to call for .... Revolution....

AdAstra wrote:The potential for abuse is just too much - not mentioning the mistaken identity cases, and lack of probable cause prior. I'm really surprised 8 of the justices went for it.

True. Not to mention that I can just see police saying that they thought they smelled or heard something when someone refuses to let them in for not having a search warrant. Although I am not surprised about eight of the justices going for this, given that these people are unelected and serve for life.

Just more encouragement to not answer the door when it's LEOs, no matter what the reason.

Welcome to the Nazi States of America.

So much for wanting to start (casually) smoking pot again.

Xela

I wonder if the right wing "Constitutionalists" are going to be as upset about this as people around here seem to be?

Or will they not be concerned about it because the parent case was a (gasp!) marijuana "crime".

And to think. Republicans used to have major shit fits over "activist" judges.

marcgo2 wrote:Just more encouragement to not answer the door when it's LEOs, no matter what the reason.

That's basically what Alito wrote in the majority opinion: They didn't have to answer the door. But the sound of a toilet flush gives police the right to kick in the door.

The idea of people huddling silently in their homes, in fear of police invasion if they make a noise, is truly chilling.

I thought the previous decisions allowing forcible entry to prevent the possible destruction of evidence were already invasive enough. This latest ruling, in a case where police were banging on the wrong apartment door, says that cops don't even need a good reason to think that there is any evidence to be destroyed.

MtnMan wrote:The idea of people huddling silently in their homes, in fear of police invasion if they make a noise, is truly chilling.

That is a chilling thought.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

MtnMan wrote:

marcgo2 wrote:Just more encouragement to not answer the door when it's LEOs, no matter what the reason.

That's basically what Alito wrote in the majority opinion: They didn't have to answer the door. But the sound of a toilet flush gives police the right to kick in the door.

The idea of people huddling silently in their homes, in fear of police invasion if they make a noise, is truly chilling.

I thought the previous decisions allowing forcible entry to prevent the possible destruction of evidence were already invasive enough. This latest ruling, in a case where police were banging on the wrong apartment door, says that cops don't even need a good reason to think that there is any evidence to be destroyed.

yeah well I'm a law abiding citizen, so for most the most part they have no reason coming around my house in the first place. All they're going to hear from me when they come banging on my door is the sound of a pump action shotgun and that shotgun being laid down next to the mantle before I answer the door.

People shouldn't fear their governments, Governments should fear their people.

and by god when they start to invade my rights, i'll blow their fucking head off like the rebs did 235 years ago.

AdAstra wrote:The potential for abuse is just too much - not mentioning the mistaken identity cases, and lack of probable cause prior. I'm really surprised 8 of the justices went for it.

Agreed...

This isn't a slippery slope, we're on the greased fuckin slide in a free fall.

I thank this SCOTUS for Heller, but I really loathe just about everything else they've done.

Too many lawyers on the court. Too many lawyers in the whole system. Too much of one category of life experience. This will not end well.

I visited the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam last December. All though the experience I wondered about how it must have felt, living with that specter of brutality from day to day...

Now I know.

Citizens United is scarier, imo.

gendoikari87 wrote:All they're going to hear from me when they come banging on my door is the sound of a pump action shotgun and that shotgun being laid down next to the mantle before I answer the door.

No balls!

On a serious note, so much for the fourth amendment. I don't see this going over well for a lot of cops who try to put this into practice with certain groups.