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I like the new bump stock, what do you think? http://youtu.be/_U6tORrODJE This not a plug. I just want to know what people think.

Spamo-Wamo in the house.

Xela

I like the thing, but hate the price! $349!!!!! Get the fuck out of here!

Welcome!
Shameless plug? Haven't tried it.

Uh-oh, I can see now that I must have one of these. Shit, I can't afford to spend that kind of flow at the moment either.

For Sale: one soul, lightly used.

I'm not sure the details of how it works but I am not going through a door first with someone behind me with this.

350? Naw...

And I wonder, perhaps ABN can elaborate...but, isn't the bolt of a select fire AR/M4 a bit more robust and configured a little differently than the civilian variant?

If so, am I not going to do some serious damage to my rifle using one of these things?

Their disclaimer is pretty binding, thus personally I am thinking 'why take the risk for something I really have no use for...?'

ATF approved? Yea until that thing gets on 60 minutes, if you want one buy it now.

As someone who doesn't even have your LTC in your state, you probably don't need to consider a bump stock for an AR yet.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/de ... ber=217096

I want to say you could take a thumbhole stock like this, and instead of mounting it to the lower receiver you mount it to a grooved plate A, that is aligned with a grooved plate B, which is then mounted to the receiver. All of which would allow the two grooved plates to be the place where the entire stock bump forward and back. I want to say that, but it's highly dependent on what can be found at the hardware store. These ovals, each shaped long and narrow, like 0. Run two nut/bolts through the center of them, joining them, but not so tight they can't slide. Offset the ovals. Run a bolt at each edge of the donut hole, so you only catch hold of one oval, one bolt up into the receiver and the other down to the pistol grip. Voila, introduction of a sliding element that will bump fire like something selling for $350, but all is would cost is a thumbhole stock and a few bucks. I'm sure there is some sort of washer that is usable, and if push comes to shove a couple thin carpentry joining plates could be custom cut to service quite nicely. Use the gold color for that bling bling feeling!

Although I must say that there is a certain thrill to firing full automatic, it isn't such that I would rush out to buy one. Granted it will be outlawed in California first, mark my words.

Waste of ammo, obnoxious, ugly, I believe there should be restrictions on something like that, namely the purchaser should be sterilized before being allowed to buy it. Other than that looks great.

I think that it would be serious if somebody used it. But someone showed me this little LCP thing and I think I might buy that. Going running now.

rolandson wrote:350? Naw...

And I wonder, perhaps ABN can elaborate...but, isn't the bolt of a select fire AR/M4 a bit more robust and configured a little differently than the civilian variant?

If so, am I not going to do some serious damage to my rifle using one of these things?

Their disclaimer is pretty binding, thus personally I am thinking 'why take the risk for something I really have no use for...?'

Consider this, $350 for the same effect as full auto (One guy clocked it at 800RPM, LWRC advertises their select fire weapons at 850RPM +/- 100RPM) which would cost you at least two or three grand just for a registered drop in auto sear to convert your semi-auto AR. So, $350 and completely legal without a $200 tax stamp, yeah I'm looking at this even if it is a gimmic. I won't be wasting 5.56 on it but I'll run some cheap .223 on it.

As to your question about the bolt, most AR manufacturers already provide an auto BCG as the tacticool wave has taken off because they're hoping to make sales on soldiers who'll buy just an upper and switch it out with their issued upper. I haven't seen an "AR" BCG in awhile. Buuuut it shouldn't really matter. Like I said in my guide (yeah I know I need to update it) the only real difference is the added material to the underside of the bolt carrier which allows it to trip an auto sear. However, with that said, I'd spring for a "tactical" BCG if you plan on using this, or at least a bolt with a good ejector. Not to keep pimping LWRC (Yes, I'm a fan) but I'd suggest their ACB: http://www.lwrci.com/p-195-advanced-combat-bolt.aspx

eelj wrote: Waste of ammo, obnoxious, ugly, I believe there should be restrictions on something like that, namely the purchaser should be sterilized before being allowed to buy it. Other than that looks great.

Ey!

they're hoping to make sales on soldiers who'll buy just an upper and switch it out with their issued upper

WTF are you talking about ABInfantry?

masonalannz wrote:WTF are you talking about ABInfantry?

Some dumb asses who got caught with unapproved equipment.

I was being facetious, even though I've known some who've done it, I know the choice of manufacturers to incorporate the auto carrier had more to do with it being cheaper to make one carrier while they hunt for military contracts instead of two separate carriers.

Come to think of it, my 5.45x39 is the cheapest ammo there is. How many spam-cans of 1080 rounds should I buy before I get tired of this toy?

ABNinfantryman wrote:Consider this, $350 for the same effect as full auto (One guy clocked it at 800RPM, LWRC advertises their select fire weapons at 850RPM +/- 100RPM) which would cost you at least two or three grand just for a registered drop in auto sear to convert your semi-auto AR. So, $350 and completely legal without a $200 tax stamp, yeah I'm looking at this even if it is a gimmic. I won't be wasting 5.56 on it but I'll run some cheap .223 on it.

There was a guy selling auto sears with a letter saying it was made before May 1981 or something like that for $115 at the last gun show. Should I have bought a box or two?

mreish wrote:

ABNinfantryman wrote:Consider this, $350 for the same effect as full auto (One guy clocked it at 800RPM, LWRC advertises their select fire weapons at 850RPM +/- 100RPM) which would cost you at least two or three grand just for a registered drop in auto sear to convert your semi-auto AR. So, $350 and completely legal without a $200 tax stamp, yeah I'm looking at this even if it is a gimmic. I won't be wasting 5.56 on it but I'll run some cheap .223 on it.

There was a guy selling auto sears with a letter saying it was made before May 1981 or something like that for $115 at the last gun show. Should I have bought a box or two?

After consulting with the BATFE? Absolutely! Then sell me two of them.

Without the ATF? Hell no! There were plenty produced after '81, but most of them were not registered in compliance, so proving the date of manufacture is nearly impossible, regardless of any letters you may have. And the burden of proof is on the possessor.

mreish wrote: There was a guy selling auto sears with a letter saying it was made before May 1981 or something like that for $115 at the last gun show. Should I have bought a box or two?

You need to consult the ATF on that one, last I heard any drop in auto sear that's not registered, regardless when it was made, is considered illegal if you own an AR.

ABNinfantryman wrote:

mreish wrote: There was a guy selling auto sears with a letter saying it was made before May 1981 or something like that for $115 at the last gun show. Should I have bought a box or two?

You need to consult the ATF on that one, last I heard any drop in auto sear that's not registered, regardless when it was made, is considered illegal if you own an AR.

And, from what I understand and correct me if I'm wrong, a granfathered clause to the ATF applies to the weapon only and not on parts (?). I always thought it this way such as with 922(r) regulations on SKS rifles being legal in one configuration, but if you change them from factory they would be illegal regardless of where the parts come from.



Kinda confusing...