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the spread of wal-mart

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 10:34 pm
by eelj
A friend of mine sent this to me. Kind of interesting regardless what you think of wally world.http://projects.flowingdata.com/walmart/

Re: the spread of wal-mart

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 10:55 pm
by rolandson
It's a disease isn't it? Like the exponential growth of bacteria in a suitable medium!

I am told by our local media that Walmart wants to build 17 in and around the Portland area. We have successfully blocked them repeatedly for many years and they just keep coming back, they won't stop.

We need an antibiotic.

Re: the spread of wal-mart

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:00 pm
by irishman
rolandson wrote:It's a disease isn't it? Like the exponential growth of bacteria in a suitable medium!

I am told by our local media that Walmart wants to build 17 in and around the Portland area. We have successfully blocked them repeatedly for many years and they just keep coming back, they won't stop.

We need an antibiotic.

And they won't stop they will finally brake the ice by giving back to the community ha ha.and in a few years after they get hold they will choke out all the small to med size business with their junk made in china....

Re: the spread of wal-mart

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:37 pm
by Elmo
The big box retailers, and Walmart in particular, are very vulnerable to rising fuel/energy prices with their global supply chains and 18-wheeler "warehouses".

So think about this. Those rising gas prices we all complain about are pushing Wally World, slowly but surely, down the toilet. I'd say a sustained oil price of about $150 a barrel would do them in (and airlines and a number of other industries as well).

Walmart's evil business model (and the captitalist "globalization" it was part of) was enabled by historically cheap energy prices that made the cost of transporting crap halfway around the world almost negligible. That's what made the cheap labor and lax environmental restrictions in China attractive.

When the cost of transporting stuff rises to more where it should be, it will make local labor and local products more competitive. And locally owned stores will be better able to compete with the big boxes. All good.

I'm not rooting for higher energy prices. I'm just saying they are inevitable, and they will bring positives as well as negatives.

Re: the spread of wal-mart

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:44 pm
by eelj
I'm no fan of the place and its whole corporate culture but it is kind of fascinating to watch it growing kind of like mould in a time elapsed video. Sure seems to do well in the, oh never mind.

Re: the spread of wal-mart

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:23 am
by din
and if you go to people of wal-mart you can see the spread of wal-mart customers.

Re: the spread of wal-mart

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:13 pm
by mark
din wrote:and if you go to people of wal-mart you can see the spread of wal-mart customers.

hahahhahah..... how do you come up with this shit? :)

That video was pretty spiffy and it jives with the time that I recall seeing my first walmart.

Re: the spread of wal-mart

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:57 pm
by whitey
larrymod wrote:The big box retailers, and Walmart in particular, are very vulnerable to rising fuel/energy prices with their global supply chains and 18-wheeler "warehouses".

So think about this. Those rising gas prices we all complain about are pushing Wally World, slowly but surely, down the toilet. I'd say a sustained oil price of about $150 a barrel would do them in (and airlines and a number of other industries as well).

Walmart's evil business model (and the captitalist "globalization" it was part of) was enabled by historically cheap energy prices that made the cost of transporting crap halfway around the world almost negligible. That's what made the cheap labor and lax environmental restrictions in China attractive.

When the cost of transporting stuff rises to more where it should be, it will make local labor and local products more competitive. And locally owned stores will be better able to compete with the big boxes. All good.

I'm not rooting for higher energy prices. I'm just saying they are inevitable, and they will bring positives as well as negatives.


How do you figure? Wally world has a crap load of distribution centers strategically placed throughout the country. On top of that, a majority of their product is trucked in via outside carriers that have their own fuel expense. Yes, its getting expensive but major carriers are cutting rates still just to continue to have the business. As much as I personally hate Wal-Mart, for every new store or remodel, that means a new Fuji photo lab. Which we have exclusive hauling for. So its an evil cycle but for the most part its guaranteed work. I'm just surprised this day and age people still use roll film and have to have it developed.

Re: the spread of wal-mart

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:06 pm
by Elmo
whitey wrote:
larrymod wrote:The big box retailers, and Walmart in particular, are very vulnerable to rising fuel/energy prices with their global supply chains and 18-wheeler "warehouses".

So think about this. Those rising gas prices we all complain about are pushing Wally World, slowly but surely, down the toilet. I'd say a sustained oil price of about $150 a barrel would do them in (and airlines and a number of other industries as well).

Walmart's evil business model (and the captitalist "globalization" it was part of) was enabled by historically cheap energy prices that made the cost of transporting crap halfway around the world almost negligible. That's what made the cheap labor and lax environmental restrictions in China attractive.

When the cost of transporting stuff rises to more where it should be, it will make local labor and local products more competitive. And locally owned stores will be better able to compete with the big boxes. All good.

I'm not rooting for higher energy prices. I'm just saying they are inevitable, and they will bring positives as well as negatives.


How do you figure? Wally world has a crap load of distribution centers strategically placed throughout the country. On top of that, a majority of their product is trucked in via outside carriers that have their own fuel expense. Yes, its getting expensive but major carriers are cutting rates still just to continue to have the business. As much as I personally hate Wal-Mart, for every new store or remodel, that means a new Fuji photo lab. Which we have exclusive hauling for. So its an evil cycle but for the most part its guaranteed work. I'm just surprised this day and age people still use roll film and have to have it developed.
It doesn't really matter who is paying for the transportation expense, it all has to be passed onto the customer ultimately. And if increasing transportation costs make Walmart's crap shipped and trucked from China more expensive than local products, people will buy local.

In other words, occasionally the free market fairies work as they are supposed to.