SCOTUS OKs that states can sue lying oil companies!

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This is big. Of course I found it in California, but any state can sue any oil company for what ever. Turns out climate change is not a hoax. Yet those brain dead red hats voted for the con artist anyway. Not enough sense. But we knew that.
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court dealt a major setback to the oil industry Monday, refusing to block lawsuits from California and other blue states that seek billions of dollars in damages for the effects of climate change.

Without a comment or dissent, the justices turned down closely watched appeals from Sunoco, Shell and other energy producers.

In Sunoco vs. Honolulu, the oil industry urged the justices to intervene in these state cases and rule that because climate change is a global phenomenon, it is a matter for federal law only, not one suited to state-by-state claims.
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https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... reddit.com

Let's see how hoax-y is a muti hundreds of billions settlement. They could only skate so long. Ride's over.

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Don't want to rain on the parade, but the cases still need to be filed in a federal district court, then likely appealed to a federal circuit court and ultimately to SCOTUS. Depends on the case and the issues and states and the oil companies will go judge shopping. This will be a long drawn out process, the oil companies don't want to lose.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Of Course they will file in Texas with a very friendly judge. Even if they lose and are fined, it's the people that will pay will be those that have to buy the gas and other products made by the byproducts of oil companies such as plastics etc.
Last edited by TrueTexan on Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
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All the legal maneuvering/posturing/suing the shit out of, doesn't address the problem of what will replace combustion. The more I look at it, the less I believe in the rosy idea of "renewable". Something has to be taken from somewhere. Yes-yes-yes, the Sun won't burn out anytime soon, but even trees can't turn photons into electrons. California has much of her energy storage in the form of pumped hydroelectric, requiring man made lakes and reservoirs, something many environmentalists consider a bad thing. The stuff batteries and windmills, and solar collectors are made of have to be mined, processed, refined... generate a waste stream that has to go somewhere, to include end of life disposal. We may put less crap into the air, but we will make crap that has to go somewhere. When we die, we still take up space or pollute by consuming real estate or going all ashes to ashes. Could go all in on Soylent, It is a "green" solution. I hope some really smart people can pull our butts out of the mess, but that has it's own downside. More innovation requires more people, who will consume more resources and keep the game going. There's even hope? for extending the human lifespan. What will that do to the population? SpaceX can save the day with TrashLink, transporting all our waste to the Moon. That's what really will kill off the giant ants up there. Everyone here should visit a landfill. Everyone here is responsible for what's there. Every now and then we get a gift from heaven in the form of a resource replenishing asteroid.

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featureless wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:50 am
highdesert wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:07 am Gavin Newsom has called a special session of the California Legislature to "Trump proof" the state
And let the dick swinging commence...
The session actually is supported by James Gallagher (R), my state representative.
“Republicans are standing together calling for action, immediate action, on recovery to ensure that these communities recover from this disaster,” Assemblyman Republican leader James Gallagher said.
https://www.yourcentralvalley.com/news/ ... wildfires/

Apparently all is not tickety-boo in the land of the red hats, bless their hearts.

CDF
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CDFingers wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:58 am
featureless wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:50 am
highdesert wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:07 am Gavin Newsom has called a special session of the California Legislature to "Trump proof" the state
And let the dick swinging commence...
The session actually is supported by James Gallagher (R), my state representative.
“Republicans are standing together calling for action, immediate action, on recovery to ensure that these communities recover from this disaster,” Assemblyman Republican leader James Gallagher said.
https://www.yourcentralvalley.com/news/ ... wildfires/

Apparently all is not tickety-boo in the land of the red hats, bless their hearts.

CDF
I'm referring to the "Trump proof" portion.

Agree, we need (equitable) wildfire recovery.

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The red hat revenge machine aimed at blue states will not go well. I sure would like to see TOS and Newsom on stage for an hour. I think TOS would be in tears. He cannot command facts like Newsom. All TOS has is bluster and misinfo, and Newsom would eviscerate that infantile strategy right quick. We won't see it, though, as TOS is a coward and knows he is outmatched in that regard.

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highdesert wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:27 am And Trump can't run for president again, he's termed out. Now Newsom and J.D. Vance would be an interesting debate to watch.
I don't mean a presidential debate. I mean a debate about whether the shit head can with hold disaster relief to get revenge. I would love to see that.

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