‘Pizzagate’ gunman fatally shot by police outside Charlotte, North Carolina

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The Salisbury man who died Monday after he was shot by two Kannapolis police officers over the weekend was the ‘Pizzagate’ gunman arrested in Washington, D.C., in 2016 after he terrified people with a loaded AR-15 inside a restaurant. Edgar Maddison Welch, the man killed, made national headlines in 2016 when he entered Comet Ping Pong, a pizza restaurant in Washington, D.C., armed with an assault rifle and loaded revolver. He drove from Salisbury to the nation’s capital in search of an alleged child sex ring linked to Hillary Clinton — something he learned about from a fake news story, The Washington Post reported. Around 10 p.m. Saturday, Welch was sitting in the passenger seat of a gray 2001 GMC Yukon when an officer pulled it over near Cannon Boulevard, a Kannapolis Police Department press release said Thursday. The officer recognized the vehicle, having arrested Welch in the past, and knew he had an outstanding warrant for his arrest for a felony probation violation, police said. The press release said the officer spoke with the vehicle’s driver and recognized Welch in the passenger seat as two more officers arrived. The officer that pulled the vehicle over then moved to the front passenger seat where Welch was sitting to arrest him. But when he opened the door, Welch pulled out a handgun from his jacket and pointed it at the officer, police said.

The arresting officer and a second officer at the scene shot Welch after he refused orders to drop his gun. The press release identified the two officers who fired as Caleb Tate and Brooks Jones. The third officer, not named, did not fire his weapon, the press release said. None of the three officers, the vehicle’s driver, or a third passenger in a back seat were injured. Welch was transported to a hospital in Cabarrus County for treatment. He was later transferred to one in Charlotte, but died from his injuries two days later. The N.C. State Bureau of Investigation is investigating and both Tate and Jones were put on administrative leave. ‘Pizzagate’ incident The conspiracy theory falsely claimed the sex ring was in a back room of the restaurant, according to news reports, and believers pointed to leaked emails between Clinton and John Podesta, her 2016 presidential campaign chief, as proof. The emails were about Clinton’s campaign potentially holding a fundraiser at the restaurant, but conspiracy theorists on websites like 4Chan and Reddit said it was all a disguise.

And that the emails were coded in a way to secretly talk about the sex ring. Welch decided to arm himself and investigate the restaurant. Patrons, including children, and employees fled the restaurant in fear upon seeing him and his weapons. He fired his weapon at a door, but no one was injured as Welch searched the premises for the rumored back room that held the alleged child sex ring — neither of which existed — for 20 minutes. He left the restaurant unarmed and was arrested. Kannapolis Director of Communications Annette Privette Keller confirmed Welch was the man involved in the Pizzagate conspiracy eight years ago. In addition to the AR-15 and revolver, Welch also had a shotgun and shotgun shells in his vehicle in 2016. He pleaded guilty to a federal charge of interstate transportation of a firearm and ammunition, and a District of Columbia charge of assault with a dangerous weapon, and was sentenced to four years in prison in June 2017.

The judge overseeing his case at the time was U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who was then a district judge in Washington, D.C. Brown Jackson also ordered Welch to three years of supervised release, to receive a mental health assessment, and to stay away from the restaurant. He was also ordered to pay $5,744 in restitution for property damage he caused at the restaurant. Welch later apologized for his actions. “I just wanted to do some good and went about it the wrong way,” Welch said. “I regret how I handled the situation.”
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I don’t agree. Not hardly. This problem was not the “lone-wolf gunman” who expired but actually a system of political lies that foment violence which is actually a form of stochastic terrorism that is not being prosecuted nor stopped in any way, legally or technically on social media. THAT is the problem our nation is failing to address. Because other countries in Europe and Asia are far ahead of us on this matter.
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Some people are just wired into believing totally crazy shit. They've been around for centuries including some of the most famous like the flat earth believers.
The gunman who shot and killed 11 people and injured six others in a Pittsburgh synagogue in October 2018 justified his attack by claiming that Jewish people were stealthily supporting illegal immigrants.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -features/

The New Orleans truck attacker pledged allegiance to the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) founded by a crazy Islamic jihadist who declared a caliphate based on a lot of wacko Islamic ideology. The US isn't the only country with homegrown conspiracies, every country has them.
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I imagine HRC raised a glass for "auld lang syne" after hearing the news. LOL

Seems bat shit crazy has taken over the world. I expect it to become the endless norm, exacerbated after Jan. 20, 2025.
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Pronus wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:08 am It must be like living in a nightmare, believing things like this to be true just because you read or heard about it somewhere.

Luckily, I attended Catholic schools and learned to believe in nothing. Sister Eileen would tell us, how you know something is as important as what you know.
I attended a Catholic college for three semesters before running out of emotional energy to work at formalized learning. Many of the instructors were nuns.

I think it was my first semester there that I had a class on the Old Testament. I had been self-identifying as an atheist for six or eight years by this point, but the course was required (Catholic college). My ears got metaphorically pinned back when the nun teaching the class stated as part of her lecture one day that "the Christian god is a creation of man, created to explain the things men didn't understand."

Years later, a friend was talking about her experience teaching Freshman Composition at a local university. She taught this for a few semesters. One of the papers her students were to write was a "compare and contrast" essay. Every time, at least one student would start off wanting to compare and contrast their religion vs. "the occult." Each time, my friend would caution them that they might be disturbed by what they found in the research process.

And each time, the student would come back and want to change their topic, after discovering that the largest difference between Christianity and "the occult" was the degree of social acceptance.

And, yes, "knowing" a thing (or thinking I know that thing) is far less important than how I came to that knowledge. The most important part of getting an education is learning to choose one's sources for information and how to tell whether the information is valid.

There are a lot of folks on all parts of the map (it's not just the one-dimension "left vs right," but at least two dimensions, and probably more) who fail to vet their sources well. I've certainly been guilty of that, but I'm trying to be more careful.
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I was working at a Catholic Hospital as a RN when they offered a way to get a Bachelor degree in Nursing from Incarnate Word University for free . I jumped at the change to get my BSN. I had to take the same course of Old Testament and it stated in the textbook we used, “ creation is a myth that was used to explain the unexplained before science. “
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TrueTexan wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:40 pm I was working at a Catholic Hospital as a RN when they offered a way to get a Bachelor degree in Nursing from Incarnate Word University for free . I jumped at the change to get my BSN. I had to take the same course of Old Testament and it stated in the textbook we used, “ creation is a myth that was used to explain the unexplained before science. “
That's amazing. I did not know that. Good on them.

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