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I hate that's it's come to this, but I have made the decision that I am going to leave the country, at least for a while we see how bad Trump is going to be this time. (I am not interested in hearing anyone's argument for why I should stay, so don't bother with that if you are thinking about it.)

So now I need to decide what to do with my guns. I hate the thought of selling them, so I am wondering what kind of options there are for safely storing them in the US while I am out of the country. Does anyone have any experience or information on how I can do that?

Sorry it's come to that, Eris.

I don't have any firsthand knowledge, but could you leave them with a friend? I don't know if they need to go through an FFL for that in Texas but would in CA. If you're concerned about something "bad" happening with them, you could remove bolts/slides and put those in a safe deposit box prior.

Depending on jurisdiction, you might have to transfer them. I tried talking the range I'm the RO at into letting me store my shit in their vault while I was in Asia for an extended stay. The owner was happy to store my cello's and guitars for me, but firearms needed to transfer to her. Then transfer back to me when I returned.

In the end I took the bolts and slides to a safety deposit box, the ammunition to a storage unit, and the receivers stayed locked in a long gun safe along with an old fender stratocaster and Gibson es 175.

The guns were crying when I got back...said something about the blues.

Sell the guns Eris. I doubt there'll be much to come back to.

I definitely understand. I might be right behind you.

You might try your local gun store. My primary store offers gun storage for a monthly fee. People use this for all kinds of reasons, yours being the most common. This store has a huge walk-in safe.

Good Luck!

You're going to miss all the fun. Sell them. Guns don't wire transfer as easily as money. Could never figure out the exchange rate between Colts and Berettas anyhow.

Used to be a thing for survivalists to bury them in heavy wall (Sch 80) PVC pipe. They seal nicely, and you will never remember where you put them (air((dirt)) tag?) Cheap metal detector I have won't find an Abrahams tank at 2 feet. An archeologist or construction crew will find them for you.

https://geekprepper.com/survival-supply-caches/

Sorry you feel leaving the US is your only choice Eris, but I'm sure you've considered alternatives. I'll leave it to others to advise on your guns.

I was younger when I lived in another country, to anyone considering it be very patient and flexible as things often work very differently than in the US. I meant to post this article on moving to another country.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegle ... o-move-to/

I have considered many times moving out of this country. More so lately. Good on you, Eris, for beating the rush and checking out your options. My decision has been that when I decide it is time to take my leave is to place significant/transfer the heirloom stuff to nieces, nephews and friends and sell everything else to fund the move in part. As you are finding out, keeping them safe and out of the hands of undesirables for an extended period will be difficult, time consuming, and likely expensive. Not sure how many firearms you have. Good luck and stay in touch.

VooDoo

A large safety deposit box may be the answer. You might find a bank that doesn't ask too any questions as to the contents.

Arrange payments up front on an auto-billing and go to a safe place with internet.

SR

Don't know how I would feel about walking into a bank with an unreported gun, varying info on the subject. There's a No Gun sign at the door of mine.

https://thegunzone.com/what-is-the-fede ... in-a-bank/

Walk into a bank with money, and you get a lollypop.

So your not gonna help with the civil war? C'mon

Just how many guns are we talking about? That has a lot to do with storage. I'm sure anyone of these old timers here would hold them for you.

When to going gets tough, leave. Say hi to Cher and Snoop Dog.

Well, I wish you best of luck no matter where you choose.

CDF

Asshole will have to start up a gang of syncophants (Brownshirts) to do his dirty work, as I just don't see the military taking up arms against the populace, regardless of crap from the top. After all, it would include their family & loved ones.

If bullets fly to any great extent, it will go full on flame no matter who fired the first shots.

We may have to gird our loins and set land boundaries, or abandon what is left of our beloved land.

I'm not mentally ready for either outcome yet.

I'm concerned that by the time it gets so bad that those who can leave, want to leave, they won't be able to get out or there will be no where to go.. It's not gonna happen in one swoop but America is clearly in an ever increasing tail spin. It's going to take years yet until the water gets hot enough that the frogs start trying to jump out of the pan. I am increasingly hunkering down and taking a wait and see position *but* I'm an older white male and financially secure.

If I were a member of some increasingly marginalized group, immigrants, people of color, poor people, LGBTQ+ , etc. I'd be much more concerned about my personal options. Having lost my Wife and having no children, I'm perfectly content now to sit and watch it unfold and help who I can.

VooDoo

The only good thing about the polarized society we have now is the ease at discerning who is again' ya...

I have family obligations, so cannot bail out. I also lack the means to bail out.

What I can--and must--do is build into my existing social networks and do the mutual aid thing as long as I'm able.

I'm an older white guy, too, so fairly low on what I'll call the Niemöller list, but that list was written for reasons.

Those who have the financial means have always been able to live wherever they wanted, in the US or overseas. If you move out of the US and still retain your US citizenship, you're required to pay US taxes on your income. Actress Eva Longoria in todays news said she and her family would be living mostly in Mexico and Spain, they can do it financially. With very few exceptions it takes 5 years in most countries to get citizenship and participate in all their social safety net programs.

Read someplace that very, very few people left the US when Trump was elected in 2016. I expect the same will be true this time around. Trump talks about what concerns most voters, Democrats don't.

If you leave from SFO, and you drive to there, bring your safe and guns and I'll bolt them to the floor in a locked closet and will await your return.

CDF

CDFingers wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:32 am If you leave from SFO, and you drive to there, bring your safe and guns and I'll bolt them to the floor in a locked closet and will await your return.

CDF

Can't bring AR's to CA. Plus no mags over 10 rnds

When I usually go to CA I fly into SFO cus there's relatives there. I've never flown in guns, anywhere. I bet it's a B'ich.
I carry a OTF knife at all times cept going through security so I feel pretty safe in SF.

tailgunner wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:43 pm

CDFingers wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:32 am If you leave from SFO, and you drive to there, bring your safe and guns and I'll bolt them to the floor in a locked closet and will await your return.

CDF

Can't bring AR's to CA. Plus no mags over 10 rnds

When I usually go to CA I fly into SFO cus there's relatives there. I've never flown in guns, anywhere. I bet it's a B'ich.
I carry a OTF knife at all times cept going through security so I feel pretty safe in SF.

The otf knife is as illegal as the guns.

But is easily concealable. Besides it's not OTF unless I push the button.

tailgunner wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:06 pm But is easily concealable. Besides it's not OTF unless I push the button.

Just as illegal as a non licensed easily concealable handgun that doesn't fire unless you pull a trigger.

featureless wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:39 pm

tailgunner wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:06 pm But is easily concealable. Besides it's not OTF unless I push the button.

Just as illegal as a non licensed easily concealable handgun that doesn't fire unless you pull a trigger.

No one cares.

Why so many unsolicited remarks stick to the subject, we've got the rest of the forum for the rest.

Thanks for all the responses! I haven't yet made up my mind, but one thing that has been suggested to me is to form a gun trust with someone I know and trust. I've also got an offer to store my guns from someone I do know and trust. I'm still not sure what I'll do, other than go to the range a lot between now and when I leave. Going to the range twice tomorrow, in fact, to let a couple of new people try out various guns. Lots of people in the trans community in Houston are suddenly interested in guns for some totally unknowable reason.