This is important. Trump won the popular vote. It's up to the Dems to figure out why and fucking fix it. Newsom is the opposite of the answer.papajim2jordan wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:10 am Always, it's not the outcome "we" wanted. That's not correct. "We, the People" chose Trump, like it or not.
Indeed, they did. In 2004, White Democrats ignored Carol Moseley Braun, a strong and qualified woman, in her Presidential bid. In 2008, they did it again, ignoring Cynthia McKinney, another strong and qualified woman.CDFingers wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:29 am He's just the first out of the gate. I think there's a deep bench from the Dems, but mostly women. It is unfortunate that votes have rejected two strong and qualified women in favor of a con man. It's gonna be a long four years.
CDF
Puritanism, the sort of base vibe for America, employs the Strong Father archetype as taught in the Bible--where women have really but one function. A pox on their houses, all.CowboyT wrote:Indeed, they did. In 2004, White Democrats ignored Carol Moseley Braun, a strong and qualified woman, in her Presidential bid. In 2008, they did it again, ignoring Cynthia McKinney, another strong and qualified woman.CDFingers wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:29 am He's just the first out of the gate. I think there's a deep bench from the Dems, but mostly women. It is unfortunate that votes have rejected two strong and qualified women in favor of a con man. It's gonna be a long four years.
CDF
Nothing says "we respect the will of the people and the democratic process" quite like this.CDFingers wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:42 pm Gavin calls special legislative session to push back against TOS. "Don't screw with California."
[youtu_be]https://youtu.be/y4CqGvlHDsc?si=cF0OFyE3wM0Lm-tJ[/youtu_be]
"California is ready to fight." Includes climate action.
Well, now.
CDF
Ahhhhnuld and Brown were both better on the climate than Newsom's been. We're going backwards on solar as well as environmental protections for his pet projects. Why wouldn't we want to mine lithium in a sensitive environment without first doing environmental review? Because Newsom wants to, that's why.CDFingers wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:26 pm Climate action is the big item here. Without a planet for our grandchildren, everything else is pretty irrelevant. If Gavin is going to run, he's going to use climate as a big part of his platform.
CDF
TouchéSubRosa wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:14 pm I see the rank & file still think there will be a vote period in '28...
How long do you guys really think he'll live, considering his diet? How long do you really think his orange brain will last? He can't simultaneously be mentally deteriorating and be a dictator in four years. You need to pick one.SubRosa wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:14 pm I see the rank & file still think there will be a vote period in '28...
Really? Trump is more honest? You toss out lots of propaganda without evidence. Prove it.featureless wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:53 am Fuck Newsom. He's a fuckin corporatist authoritarian. Trump is more honest, and I don't say that lightly.
Appreciate that you think I'm in a place of authority where I can spout propaganda! Never thought I was that important or that the 10 of us here were a large enough audience. I'll expect supporting evidence from all your statements going forward in return. No more unsubstantiated opinions, eh? Fair is fair. Or, we can just have discussions on a discussion board. (Sorry it rubs you that I don't unconditionally support Dems)tailgunner wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:08 pmReally? Trump is more honest? You toss out lots of propaganda without evidence. Prove it.featureless wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:53 am Fuck Newsom. He's a fuckin corporatist authoritarian. Trump is more honest, and I don't say that lightly.
Luckily for you from what I gather your have a state pension, correct? Or work for a large corp.featureless wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:49 pmAppreciate that you think I'm in a place of authority where I can spout propaganda! Never thought I was that important or that the 10 of us here were a large enough audience. I'll expect supporting evidence from all your statements going forward in return. No more unsubstantiated opinions, eh? Fair is fair. Or, we can just have discussions on a discussion board. (Sorry it rubs you that I don't unconditionally support Dems)tailgunner wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:08 pmReally? Trump is more honest? You toss out lots of propaganda without evidence. Prove it.featureless wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:53 am Fuck Newsom. He's a fuckin corporatist authoritarian. Trump is more honest, and I don't say that lightly.
Anyway, go read up on his dealings with the CA PUC, rooftop solar, high speed rail, restaurant minimum wage, all the horseshit you can imagine on gun control, etc. He's the real deal used car salesman. Even shared a love interest with one of the trump boys, if that's an indication of character. High quality dude. Both of 'em.
Don't you have a state retirement? You get to bitch about checking boxes about the environment yet complain about it. It's one or the other. Once you rip into the ground it's all over.featureless wrote:SubRosa wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:14 pm I see the rank & file still think there will be a vote period in '28...
How long do you guys really think he'll live, considering his diet? How long do you really think his orange brain will last? He can't simultaneously be mentally deteriorating and be a dictator in four years. You need to pick one.
No pension and no large corp. I'm sure you know environmental regs better than I. I've only been in the field a short 25 years, so will defer to your out of state non working knowledge. You've defeated me. The government is beyond reproach. We shall no longer have to discuss it.tailgunner wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:02 amLuckily for you from what I gather your have a state pension, correct? Or work for a large corp.featureless wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:49 pmAppreciate that you think I'm in a place of authority where I can spout propaganda! Never thought I was that important or that the 10 of us here were a large enough audience. I'll expect supporting evidence from all your statements going forward in return. No more unsubstantiated opinions, eh? Fair is fair. Or, we can just have discussions on a discussion board. (Sorry it rubs you that I don't unconditionally support Dems)tailgunner wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:08 pmReally? Trump is more honest? You toss out lots of propaganda without evidence. Prove it.featureless wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:53 am Fuck Newsom. He's a fuckin corporatist authoritarian. Trump is more honest, and I don't say that lightly.
Anyway, go read up on his dealings with the CA PUC, rooftop solar, high speed rail, restaurant minimum wage, all the horseshit you can imagine on gun control, etc. He's the real deal used car salesman. Even shared a love interest with one of the trump boys, if that's an indication of character. High quality dude. Both of 'em.
Good for you , u can say how much you hate your state .gov and still get retirement. eh?
Look at the details on CA leading solar and wind. You complain about regs and checking boxes to save the environment yet say you care. It's one way or the other bud.Don't you have a state retirement? You get to bitch about checking boxes about the environment yet complain about it. It's one or the other. Once you rip into the ground it's all over.featureless wrote:SubRosa wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:14 pm I see the rank & file still think there will be a vote period in '28...
How long do you guys really think he'll live, considering his diet? How long do you really think his orange brain will last? He can't simultaneously be mentally deteriorating and be a dictator in four years. You need to pick one.
CA leads the country in solar and wind. Whats to compalin about, the weather? lol
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