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27What? Non-confrontational is bad here?
When people start making false accusations it's time to ignore.
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28False accusations, LoL , I’m not the one who got the historical timeline wrong and started dragging people’s place of origin into the conversation. Yeah, go ahead and block me. There’s a fair amount prejudice as in preconceived ideas involved when one purposely interjects such in a discussion when it has no relevance to an actual point of discussion. That’s not a false accusation, that’s how I received the comment. Immigrants are singled out by slights and phrases meant to either dismiss, draw attention away from a subject by pointing to someone’s irrelevant origin or just diminish their credibility. Nearly sixty years, I’ve had to listen to such. Make your point and defend without misdirection.
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29Sikacz, I don't believe the "where you came from" comment was directed specifically at the fact that you are an immigrant to this country. I myself often forget that you came here from another country. I often disagree with tailgunner, though in this case, the "where you came from" phrase is often used in the context that I saw tailgunner use it, just a general metaphor. I too have used it many times it; it's something I learned on the playground (all of us in that particular elementary school happened to be USA born), in the manner of, "dude/dudette, where'd you come from? Don't you know anything?" And we didn't mean it in the context of attacking someone for being an immigrant. That's what it looks like tailgunner might have done here. Perhaps it's a little difficult to explain precisely, but I do know of this other context.
And believe me, being a racial minority, I know exactly how it feels to be viewed as "the other". I also know it from being a Liberal who isn't a Democrat, among Democrats. So, I get it. You actually being an immigrant who has run into problems for that reason, that touched a nerve in you. This happened with a few things I said here on the LGC forums that Eris took as being either homophobic or racist (it was actually neither), and she assumed the worst before asking me. Perhaps a version of that happened here.
And believe me, being a racial minority, I know exactly how it feels to be viewed as "the other". I also know it from being a Liberal who isn't a Democrat, among Democrats. So, I get it. You actually being an immigrant who has run into problems for that reason, that touched a nerve in you. This happened with a few things I said here on the LGC forums that Eris took as being either homophobic or racist (it was actually neither), and she assumed the worst before asking me. Perhaps a version of that happened here.
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30And now, back to our regularly scheduled program....
I have no idea what kind of drugs this Connecticut AG must have taken, but it's got to be on the order of Angel Dust or something equally strong. That's the only way, I think, that one could somehow genuinely believe that semi-automatic rifles are "democratically protected" but not Constitutionally protected. That's just combobulated and damned silly. Of course, I don't believe for an instant that this AG actually believes that this is true. This is more of the Democrat Party gun-control religion that he has convinced himself to follow. It's part of that "the end justifies the means" mentality that I find so dangerous among Democrat officials nowadays, especially as it concerns the Second Amendment. He should be disbarred and forbidden from ever practicing law again, anywhere, for such absolute nonsense.
Oh, and by the way, since sikacz really has been dealt with badly in the past for being an immigrant, I want his ass to have a semi-automatic rifle, with plenty of fully-stocked magazines, with which he can defend himself if need be! And it's for the same reason I want Black and Native American and so-on racial minorities to be armed up. It's why I became a Pink Pistol, even though I'm straight. An armed society really is a more polite society. This liar of a Connecticut AG most likely is protected by the very firearms he wants to prevent those "little people" from having. Disbar his ass.
I have no idea what kind of drugs this Connecticut AG must have taken, but it's got to be on the order of Angel Dust or something equally strong. That's the only way, I think, that one could somehow genuinely believe that semi-automatic rifles are "democratically protected" but not Constitutionally protected. That's just combobulated and damned silly. Of course, I don't believe for an instant that this AG actually believes that this is true. This is more of the Democrat Party gun-control religion that he has convinced himself to follow. It's part of that "the end justifies the means" mentality that I find so dangerous among Democrat officials nowadays, especially as it concerns the Second Amendment. He should be disbarred and forbidden from ever practicing law again, anywhere, for such absolute nonsense.
Oh, and by the way, since sikacz really has been dealt with badly in the past for being an immigrant, I want his ass to have a semi-automatic rifle, with plenty of fully-stocked magazines, with which he can defend himself if need be! And it's for the same reason I want Black and Native American and so-on racial minorities to be armed up. It's why I became a Pink Pistol, even though I'm straight. An armed society really is a more polite society. This liar of a Connecticut AG most likely is protected by the very firearms he wants to prevent those "little people" from having. Disbar his ass.
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31My apologies for being off topic, but from my perspective only I can interpret a response directed to me and anyone other the person who made the response responding seems like dismissing and condoning the offense. If the individual didn’t mean to offend they should have clearly responded appropriately and explained their comment. They have not and instead tried to turn the issue into them being unfairly accused. I’m done with this as the individual involved has chosen to “foe” me and they won’t be reading this response.
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32William Tong, the AG of Connecticut like all state attorneys general wants to be governor, if the current governor doesn't run for a 3rd term. He feels emboldened after the Sandy Hook and Alex Jones prosecutions and if he loses at the US district court in CT, an appeal goes to the 2nd Circuit in NYC which would probably give him a favorable ruling.
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33Too much politics. I’m tired of political agendas used to diminish rights. Behind it all with both political parties is money, money from billionaires.highdesert wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:58 am William Tong, the AG of Connecticut like all state attorneys general wants to be governor, if the current governor doesn't run for a 3rd term. He feels emboldened after the Sandy Hook and Alex Jones prosecutions and if he loses at the US district court in CT, an appeal goes to the 2nd Circuit in NYC which would probably give him a favorable ruling.
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34I think the appropriate variable with respect to this topic is "citizenship" rather than "immigrant." Immigrants who are not citizens do not have the same rights as citizens do regarding the Constitution. Immigrants who become citizens have the same rights as native born or as other immigrants who have become citizens. Talking properly about citizenship negates any talk about immigrants: either they're a citizen or they're not when we talk about the right to possess any firearm.
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35I do not have the same and equal rights as you do. That is a fact. Please don’t make me point it out. We have a tiered citizenship system, native born and naturalized. A naturalized citizen’s position is devalued by using references origin and in effect pointing out their immigrant past. It’s usually not done to add credibility to the person’s point. I see this post as a defense of the previous posts and dismissal of my position and objection.CDFingers wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:21 am I think the appropriate variable with respect to this topic is "citizenship" rather than "immigrant." Immigrants who are not citizens do not have the same rights as citizens do regarding the Constitution. Immigrants who become citizens have the same rights as native born or as other immigrants who have become citizens. Talking properly about citizenship negates any talk about immigrants: either they're a citizen or they're not when we talk about the right to possess any firearm.
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36On the point of immigrants owning and possessing guns, they can if they have a legal immigration visa.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-ali ... e-firearms
Illegal immigrants are not afforded that right. That’s likely because by law they shouldn’t be here.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-ali ... e-firearms
Illegal immigrants are not afforded that right. That’s likely because by law they shouldn’t be here.
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37Here's the quote from the ATF site, showing the answer is not as cut and dried as you suggest:sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:05 amI do not have the same and equal rights as you do. That is a fact. Please don’t make me point it out. We have a tiered citizenship system, native born and naturalized. A naturalized citizen’s position is devalued by using references origin and in effect pointing out their immigrant past. It’s usually not done to add credibility to the person’s point. I see this post as a defense of the previous posts and dismissal of my position and objection.CDFingers wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:21 am I think the appropriate variable with respect to this topic is "citizenship" rather than "immigrant." Immigrants who are not citizens do not have the same rights as citizens do regarding the Constitution. Immigrants who become citizens have the same rights as native born or as other immigrants who have become citizens. Talking properly about citizenship negates any talk about immigrants: either they're a citizen or they're not when we talk about the right to possess any firearm.
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You'll have to point it out to me that naturalized citizens are treated differently by law from those born here. Every application I've ever filled out that referenced citizenship asked "Are you a citizen?" (Yes or no). None of my naturalized friends have mentioned this to me. Let me know. Sounds bogus to me.An alien legally in the U.S. is not prohibited from purchasing firearms unless the alien is admitted into the U.S. under a nonimmigrant visa and does not meet one of the exceptions as provided in 18 U.S.C. 922(y)(2), such as possession of a valid hunting license or permit.
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38CDFingers wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:21 amI didn't think you could point it out. Claiming something is true without actual facts to support the claim is the way the red hats operate. We perceive the results.sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:05 am I do not have the same and equal rights as you do. That is a fact. Please don’t make me point it out.
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39https://www.gnu.org/music/free-software-song.en.htmlCDFingers wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:21 amI didn't think you could point it out. Claiming something is true without actual facts to support the claim is the way the red hats operate. We perceive the results.sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:05 am I do not have the same and equal rights as you do. That is a fact. Please don’t make me point it out.
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40Your post is a bit messed up in quotes CDFingers. So here’s my response.
Yes, I can. I’m never allowed to run for president of this country. That alone makes me a second class citizen. There’s other finer points also, but that one is the crown jewel. So no I’m not equal no matter what you seem to think.
Yes, I can. I’m never allowed to run for president of this country. That alone makes me a second class citizen. There’s other finer points also, but that one is the crown jewel. So no I’m not equal no matter what you seem to think.
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41CDFingers wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:51 pmI think we were talking gun rights not running for POTUS. Even non-citizens can come here to hunt and possess guns.CDFingers wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:21 amI didn't think you could point it out. Claiming something is true without actual facts to support the claim is the way the red hats operate. We perceive the results.sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:05 am I do not have the same and equal rights as you do. That is a fact. Please don’t make me point it out.
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42Yeah, I do mess up using the quote feature. I agree that not being able to run for president removes a career option. I don't think that makes immigrants who naturalize, second class citizens. I can't run for president either, but it's because I'm not rich as fuck. That's one of America's biggest problems, wealth distribution. But when billionaires control most of the media and that media says the existing wealth distribution is all tickety-boo, then there's our problem. I think we agree that that is one example explaining why Repubs hate to fund education. They love the less educated, as it were, who appear fairly easy to manipulate.sikacz wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:39 pm Your post is a bit messed up in quotes CDFingers. So here’s my response.
Yes, I can. I’m never allowed to run for president of this country. That alone makes me a second class citizen. There’s other finer points also, but that one is the crown jewel. So no I’m not equal no matter what you seem to think.
Everyone except the top ten percent is a second class citizen under our current tax structure. Welcome to the club, pal--to quote a great Christmas movie.
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43Barack Obama wasn't rich as fuck, either. Neither was Bill Clinton. Both grew up in pretty humble circumstances. Same with Jimmy Carter.
Carter somehow got to be Governor and then President by actually being a good and honest person, possibly the last politician to so become President. Then he continued that mindset, as demonstrated through his actions, after his Presidency. All that's why I hold him in such high esteem. The rest? They "sold out" to the highest bidders. Basically, they became "good men" for the oligarchs. That includes, unfortunately, both Obama and Clinton, which is how they were allowed to ascend up the ladder. Same goes for Kamala Harris; she did the same thing. That's how you make it if you're not rich as fuck.
The problem really is money in politics. I don't see another like Jimmy Carter becoming President again as long as there's such billion$ required just to get your name out there. And those who run the media aren't helping; look at how they were complicit, both times, in putting their fingers on the scale for Hillary Clinton when Bernie Sanders was also running in the Primaries. Can't ignore that, either.
But then, it's also the fault of Us, The People for not paying proper attention to the candidates during those Primaries. Our job is to do that, and by and large, we appear to be failing, just letting the incumbents stay in because we think it's easier and requires less immediate effort. Ben Franklin was right about our form of government being suitable only for a virtuous--meaning, responsible enough to properly research the candidates--people.
Carter somehow got to be Governor and then President by actually being a good and honest person, possibly the last politician to so become President. Then he continued that mindset, as demonstrated through his actions, after his Presidency. All that's why I hold him in such high esteem. The rest? They "sold out" to the highest bidders. Basically, they became "good men" for the oligarchs. That includes, unfortunately, both Obama and Clinton, which is how they were allowed to ascend up the ladder. Same goes for Kamala Harris; she did the same thing. That's how you make it if you're not rich as fuck.
The problem really is money in politics. I don't see another like Jimmy Carter becoming President again as long as there's such billion$ required just to get your name out there. And those who run the media aren't helping; look at how they were complicit, both times, in putting their fingers on the scale for Hillary Clinton when Bernie Sanders was also running in the Primaries. Can't ignore that, either.
But then, it's also the fault of Us, The People for not paying proper attention to the candidates during those Primaries. Our job is to do that, and by and large, we appear to be failing, just letting the incumbents stay in because we think it's easier and requires less immediate effort. Ben Franklin was right about our form of government being suitable only for a virtuous--meaning, responsible enough to properly research the candidates--people.
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44I lack all their talents, plus I lack money. America has nothing to fear from me. hehe
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