"The Democrats’ Half-Hearted Move to the Center"

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From political sociologist Ruy Teixeira:
The Democrats have had a good two weeks, nosing ahead of Trump in the national polling averages and even in some key swing states. Nate Silver’s prediction model shows the race now as basically a toss-up, with Harris actually on the good end of a 53-47 probability-of-victory split. That’s a dramatic improvement from where the Democrats were in the fading days of Biden’s campaign. But it’s still a campaign on a knife’s edge that could go either way. Recognizing this, the Harris campaign has sought to remedy Harris’s vulnerabilities on a host of issues where her status as a liberal California Democrat and her publicly-stated past positions put her far away from the median American voter. They know the more voters view her as a moderate and close to the center of American politics, the better her chances of winning the election. So far, this move to the center has revolved around several strategies. None of them seem very likely to remedy the problem to which they are addressed. They include:

(1) The “I take it back” strategy. Harris has a long record of taking unpopular, even toxic, stances on various policies that played well, at various times, with the progressive wing of the Democratic Party but are not remotely centrist. These include, but are hardly limited to, banning fracking, banning offshore drilling, backing a Green New Deal, mandatory gun buybacks, defunding the police and casting doubt on whether police really improve public safety, abolishing ICE, decriminalizing illegal border crossings, and abolishing private health insurance. Do you, the median voter, see something there you don’t like? The Harris campaign says: no problem. Harris now takes it back! Whatever she said in the past that seems bonkers, she now enthusiastically disavows. Of course, these position reversals raise many questions. Why did she have these positions in the first place? Why did she change those positions—what accounts for her conversion? And what is her position now on those contentious policy issues—besides not being for dumb position X? That leads to a second strategy in the moving-to-the-center campaign.

(2) The “No questions please—we’re Democrats!” strategy. The Harris campaign’s current approach to the logical and potentially embarrassing questions raised by these policy reversals has the beauty of simplicity: don’t answer them! In fact, avoid questions entirely by confining Harris’s activities to scripted rallies. After all, you can’t get in trouble for your answers if nobody gets to ask you questions. The downside of course is it makes the disavowals less convincing, leaving voters wondering whether Harris’s views really have changed and, critically, whether and to what extent Harris’s positions are really centrist and close to their own. The media has been remarkably tolerant of this strategy which has contributed to the almost 100 percent positive coverage of her campaign so far. While it doesn’t seem like that can last, the Harris campaign certainly hopes it will; they much prefer a “vibes” campaign with only vague policy commitments (the campaign website does not even have an issues section), super-broad themes like “freedom” and social media memes around policy-independent things like “brat,” “coconut tree,” and “weird.” But perhaps not all the voters they need to reach will be susceptible to a vibes campaign, especially non-online, working-class voters in key states. That brings us to a third moving-to-the-center strategy, designed especially to reach recalcitrant working-class voters.

(3) The “Hey, we’re working class too!” strategy. This appears to be part of the thinking behind the selection of Minnesota governor Tim Walz as Harris’s running mate, instead of Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro. Shapiro, of course, was not beloved of the progressive left and their campaign against him and for Walz apparently had an effect. But Shapiro also, in terms of background and personal affect, does not code as working class in a way Walz does. The Harris campaign hopes that his persona will help them reach the working class, particularly white working-class voters, whose support they so desperately need in key Midwestern/Rustbelt states. There are some problems with this. Walz, while he was a relatively conservative Democrat when he was representing a rural district in the House of Representatives, as governor of Minnesota he has been pretty much a down-the-line progressive. Indeed, in his current incarnation he is more a coastal liberal Democrat’s idea of what white working-class guys from the Midwest should be like rather than what they really are like.

Nor does his electoral record suggest unusual blue collar appeal. Shapiro in 2022 won his governor’s race in Pennsylvania by 15 points in a state with a +3 Republican partisan lean. He outran Biden’s 2020 performance in the state by 14 points. In contrast, Walz won his governor’s race in 2022 by 8 points in a state with a +2 Democratic partisan lean. And he ran ahead of Biden’s 2020 performance in the state but just a single percentage point. Walz also lost white working-class voters in his state by 8 points, 6 points worse than Shapiro did in his race.
He quotes Steve Kornacki of NBC News on Walz's election numbers,
“What’s striking…is how different the Walz and Biden numbers are from Obama’s. When Obama won his two elections, he joined strong metro-area support with respectable showings (and sometimes better) among small-town and blue-collar voters. A primary feature of American politics since Obama has been the virtual disappearance of that kind of demographic and geographic balance from the Democratic coalition. In his ’22 campaign, Walz didn’t restore that old balance. His coalition, instead, looked just like what has become the standard post-Obama coalition for Democrats. He rolled up massive margins in metro areas and took a beating practically everywhere else."
"What the selection does…is forfeit her best opportunity to send a message that she is a moderate. She needs to take every possible opportunity between now and November to make up for that. Harris needs to adopt positions that will upset progressive activists. She needs to specifically understand that the likelihood a given action or statement will create complaints on the left is a reason to do something, rather than a reason not to." [quoting Jonathan Chait]

That is an approach to moving to the center the Harris campaign has apparently ruled out. If that is the case, Donald Trump, with all his unattractive qualities and unforced political errors, is likely to remain competitive through November and, let’s face it, could easily win. As Chait puts it, somewhat wistfully, “I don’t want to bet the future of this country on a coin toss. I want to build a political coalition with a clear majority.” Unfortunately, it looks far more likely he’ll get the former than the latter.
https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-de ... ed-move-to

The US is a center-right country, that's the reality in running for president. Running up the popular vote in blue states won't elect a Democrat to the White House, candidates need electoral college votes to win.

Harris was an unpopular vice president who has been given the Hollywood treatment of photo ops and teleprompters, but honeymoons end and we'll see how long the current flurry lasts.

Nate Silver's prediction models haven't always been right.
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Even if she wins and is a bad to terrible president, it's better than the alternative of a known worthless president. Biden saved us from a turd second term, now it's Kamala's turn to do the same. I sincerely hope she is successful regardless of where she ends up on lefty political scale from moderate to extreme will be fine with moi.
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Is it "centrist" to support workers? I believe it is. Is it "centrist" to support labor unions? I think not. I do think it is "left of center" to support unions. So, what does that mean with respect to November? Frontloading to my opinion:
The United Auto Workers filed federal labor charges against Donald Trump and Elon Musk for their comments applauding the practice of firing employees who threaten to strike.
Under federal law, it is illegal to fire workers who threaten to strike.
Trump has been vying for the labor vote in the presidential race against Vice President Kamala Harris, though the UAW has already endorsed the vice president.

The United Auto Workers union on Tuesday filed federal labor charges with the National Labor Relations Board against former President Donald Trump and billionaire Elon Musk for publicly applauding the practice of firing employees who threaten to strike.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/13/musk-tr ... rview.html

Certainly a leftist will support labor unions. What advantage does a centrist candidate have to support labor unions? Unions drive up take-home pay as well as better working conditions, better health care, and better pension opportunities. A centrist candidate supporting unions says to workers, "Workers are the back bone of America, and there are great opportunities behind unions to collect better wages and working conditions." Such a position says to workers, "You're good, and you can be better if you join a union." Those on the right hate unions for that exact reason. A centrist candidate wins by supporting unions, whereas a rightist candidate alientates all workers with an anti unions stance.

For kicks and giggles, here's a nine minute podcase showing how TOS could face charges for saying it's OK to fire workers who want to form unions.

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We're a center-right country, that's where most voters sit on the political spectrum. Center-right is where the votes are in this very close presidential election. The president of the Teamsters Union spoke at the Republican Convention last month and I'm sure there will be high ranking union officials speaking next week at the Democratic Convention. There are a lot of rank and file union members that vote Republican, while still strongly supporting unions. When Democrats lost the working class, they also lost their monopoly on support from all labor unions.

To someone left of Harris she's a centrist, to someone to the right of Harris, she's a leftist. Your position on the political spectrum affects your perspective. People on this forum are to the left of most US voters.



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highdesert wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:22 pm To someone left of Harris she's a centrist, to someone to the right of Harris, she's a leftist. Your position on the political spectrum affects your perspective.

Half the country seems to think that if you anywhere to the left of Attila the Hun then you are a pinko commie leftist.
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This is one of those elections where people have very strong political views. For most of my life, a persons political ideology didn't make much difference. My father was a moderate Republican from western Michigan and my mother was a union supporting Democrat from Chicago. At mixed family functions, politics wasn't discussed.
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