I have never been a fan of manual safeties on handguns, and I was never fond of such a thing on the M9/M92FS. After looking around with a bunch of rewards cash on my Cabela’s card, I ended up purchasing an M9A4, as it’s decocker only (I think it’s awkward pushing the decocking lever upward on the M92GTS). Unfortunately, I learned the hard way that Beretta’s quality control went down the toilet when they moved to Gallatin, TN, as the brand new gun came with some kind of pitting in the bore. I have also been waiting several weeks since I sent a warranty repair request. The gun itself shoots like a dream, but that pitted bore is unacceptable (and yes, I thoroughly cleaned it to make sure it wasn’t fouling.

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A very nice new toy, I'm partial to Berettas. For a time people were saying the same thing about SIG, the US made ones had problems and they recommended only buying German made SIGs.

The stuff out of Gallatin has apparently been hit or miss at times. Bought 2 Berettas this year so far, an 80X Cheetah Italian made and a 30X Tomcat USA made. After seeing some horror stories about stuff coming out of Tennessee I was concerned. My Italian built 80X is probably to best fit and finish I have ever seen on a Beretta and I have a slew of them. So I was a little worried about the 30X having waited months for the model I wanted to become available.

It's fabulous, the new Tomcat is. I did manage to break the firing pin dry firing, even though I used a snap cap. Later inspection showed the snap cap to have the center rubber cushion shot out probably by thousands of dry fires with my Colt 1903's. Still, Beretta responded quickly and has sent a new firing pin for me to install instead of waiting weeks and sending the gun in for repair.

The CS Rep was fabulous and understanding and apparently this is not usually the case. So I think the CS and Fit and Finish out of Tennessee is hit and miss. But the latest purchase of an American made Beretta has pleased me as much as my Italian made purchases. The 80X Cheetah made in Italy is still "The Bomb" for me....that and my Px4 Inox 9mm built in Italy. Fantastic stuff but I also have a Px4 Subcompact built in Maryland and it is fabulous as well.

I think the move to Tennessee has hurt their quality control in the short term. Hope it's not for the long term.

VooDoo

highdesert wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:19 am A very nice new toy, I'm partial to Barettas. For a time people were saying the same thing about SIG, the US made ones had problems and they recommended only buying German made SIGs.

I definitely enjoy shooting the gun, and I can see myself getting addicted to the M9/M92 platform, just as I got addicted to the CZ-75 platform. It's just galling dealing with poor customer service when there is a problem. A CZ-75 SP-01 Tactical I bought in 2018 had problems with the slide stop failing to consistently lock the slide open after the last cartridge was fired, and I wasn't riding the slide stop. The process of dealing with CZ-USA's customer service took three months (the handgun was replaced entirely). I have a feeling that Beretta will be just as bad, if not worse, than that. Last week, I got an automated message saying their customer service call center was closed for some kind of "training purposes", so I wasn't even able to talk to someone the issue. I wonder if I will get the same message when I try calling Monday morning.

I am a bit curious to see how the M92X Performance compares to my CZ Shadow 2. It's also made in Italy, as opposed to Tennessee. Part me also wonders if I should try to get an Italian-made M92FS and convert it to a G configuration. The CZs and Glocks have been multiplying in my safe, so what if Berettas do the same?

It does make me wonder how long it will take Beretta to get up to speed on quality control. Although part of me wonders if those Tennessee workers will just jump ship to some place that pays better if they start getting things properly made.

A bunch of overtime at work slowed things down for me, but I finally managed to get a prepaid shipping label from Beretta, and the tracking shows that the gun has arrived at their facility. I just wonder how many weeks, or months I will be waiting (why the hell couldn’t they just send me a new barrel? I gave them numerous pictures of the pitting.)


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I broke the firing pin on my Beretta Tomcat, reminds me I bought a new firing pin I just need to replace it. Can't dry fire that one without a snap cap, still I love the popup barrel and it has a manual safety/decocker.

highdesert wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:33 am I broke the firing pin on my Beretta Tomcat, reminds me I bought a new firing pin I just need to replace it. Can't dry fire that one without a snap cap, still I love the popup barrel and it has a manual safety/decocker.

Replace the pin that secures the firing pin at the same time and secure the pin with a drop of Loctite. If you need a punch to push out that retaining pin (1mm punch) PM me and I'll send ya one. I got ten in my kit....
They are hardened pins for watch repair and I could only get them ten at a crack. Worked like a charm though!

VooDoo

I got my M9A4 back after about a month-and-a-half. The delay was due to replacement barrels being backordered (that alone tells me that they had quite a few defective barrels!). The gun is definitely a nice shooter (I still shoot best with the CZ-75, though), and the M92/M9 platform is growing on me. I am curious about a Beretta 92X RDO Compact converted to decocker only.


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Glad yer M9A4 is back in home. Shipping firearms makes me leery as so much disappears now days. Those CZ Pistols talk to me all the time but I spend my extra this year on an HK P30LS which. I hate to say, gives my Beretta Px4 a run for favorite carry gun. I still shoot the Px4 better/faster *but* not by much. Shot my brothers CZ 2075 RAMI and the CZ's still are talking to me.

VooDoo

VodoundaVinci wrote:Glad yer M9A4 is back in home. Shipping firearms makes me leery as so much disappears now days. Those CZ Pistols talk to me all the time but I spend my extra this year on an HK P30LS which. I hate to say, gives my Beretta Px4 a run for favorite carry gun. I still shoot the Px4 better/faster *but* not by much. Shot my brothers CZ 2075 RAMI and the CZ's still are talking to me.

VooDoo

I was very disappointed when CZ discontinued the CZ-2075 RAMI, as I wanted to get a RAMI BD. I just carry a Glock 26 for a subcompact (warmer weather carry). I won’t rule out the aforementioned 92X RDO compact converted to decocker only to add to my carry rotation for a compact gun (currently Glock 19 and CZ-75 P-01).


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Rumor has it that CZ has a replacement for the RAMI on the drawing board or at least a subcompact version of the 2075 in some incarnation. I'll be having one of those.....don't think I could justify stopping mice elf. Apparently CZ discontinued the RAMI in favor of the P-10S, which is, of course, striker fired. That's cool if one is a striker fired fan/aficionado *but* I have up my Glocks in favor of hammer fired, DA/SA pistols for concealed carry as I love the second strike capability on a dud primer and I feel the manual of arms makes a safer carry gun fo me and bystanders. Loved my Glocks having owned and carried a G19, G26, G43 and the Wife had a G42. Nice guns but all sold to fund DA/SA hammer fired pistols or, in my Wifes case, a Sig P238.

I see CZ's dumping of the 2075 RAMI in favor of the P-10S to be like comparing apples and oranges.

VooDoo

VodoundaVinci wrote:Rumor has it that CZ has a replacement for the RAMI on the drawing board or at least a subcompact version of the 2075 in some incarnation. I'll be having one of those.....don't think I could justify stopping mice elf. Apparently CZ discontinued the RAMI in favor of the P-10S, which is, of course, striker fired. That's cool if one is a striker fired fan/aficionado *but* I have up my Glocks in favor of hammer fired, DA/SA pistols for concealed carry as I love the second strike capability on a dud primer and I feel the manual of arms makes a safer carry gun fo me and bystanders. Loved my Glocks having owned and carried a G19, G26, G43 and the Wife had a G42. Nice guns but all sold to fund DA/SA hammer fired pistols or, in my Wifes case, a Sig P238.

I see CZ's dumping of the 2075 RAMI in favor of the P-10S to be like comparing apples and oranges.

VooDoo

I don’t put much faith in rumors, but I could see myself getting one of those guns…or two…if the rumors turn out to be true.


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VodoundaVinci wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:08 am

highdesert wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:33 am I broke the firing pin on my Beretta Tomcat, reminds me I bought a new firing pin I just need to replace it. Can't dry fire that one without a snap cap, still I love the popup barrel and it has a manual safety/decocker.

Replace the pin that secures the firing pin at the same time and secure the pin with a drop of Loctite. If you need a punch to push out that retaining pin (1mm punch) PM me and I'll send ya one. I got ten in my kit....

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They are hardened pins for watch repair and I could only get them ten at a crack. Worked like a charm though!

VooDoo

Thanks Voodoo, I'll probably just take it to a gunsmith in town. I'm not mechanical with things. It was my fault I broke it, I should have used a snap cap.

I’m a huge Beretta fan. Hope they get their act sorted out.

Also, I want a frame mounted safety but no rail.