I hate having to choose to carry or not. Knowing I can’t take my gun into a place leaves me with few options, usually leaving it home. I have a few of the lock boxes that fit under a seat, but they are not a real secure solution. Even secured the lock isn’t going to stop anyone. The best practical solution is to allow for concealed carry with no exceptions, especially if you have a carry license.

featureless wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 9:06 pm Securing a gun in a car is difficult. I used one of those clamshell lock boxes for a while until it stopped working with my gun in it. A few minutes later with a screwdriver and gun was out. The attachment cable.can.be defeated pretty easily as well. In other words, without significant effort, expense and modifications to your car, you're not securing it from theft from anyone but the laziest of thieves. Then, CA passed a law rendering everywhere a sensitive place, so guns will always be in cars ("secure" storage is legally required. The correct place for a gun for a licensed carrier is in your person, not the car. But CA is gonna CA.

By the way, I have a substantial lockbox in the trunk locked up with a bike cable. Someday I'll get around to welding up a mount for it. It's super fun arming and disarmed at the trunk.

Many years ago, an employer used the axiom that "locks keep honest people honest."

BearPaws wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:02 pm

featureless wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 9:06 pm Securing a gun in a car is difficult. I used one of those clamshell lock boxes for a while until it stopped working with my gun in it. A few minutes later with a screwdriver and gun was out. The attachment cable.can.be defeated pretty easily as well. In other words, without significant effort, expense and modifications to your car, you're not securing it from theft from anyone but the laziest of thieves. Then, CA passed a law rendering everywhere a sensitive place, so guns will always be in cars ("secure" storage is legally required. The correct place for a gun for a licensed carrier is in your person, not the car. But CA is gonna CA.

By the way, I have a substantial lockbox in the trunk locked up with a bike cable. Someday I'll get around to welding up a mount for it. It's super fun arming and disarmed at the trunk.

Many years ago, an employer used the axiom that "locks keep honest people honest."

Unless one has an armored car with an armored lock box attached to the frame of that vehicle it's pretty much a given that if they know it's there, and they want it, they'll get it. I went thru this with musical instruments locked in a car while playing clubs in Chicago in the 1970's. The more secure and "locked down" one tried to make it the more they wanted it and the bigger the tools would become. The only safe place was hidden in somewhere that was seemingly in plain view. I had a fake spare tire on a van that would keep a saxophone so safe I didn't lock the doors as it kept them from breaking the windows. Prolly wouldn't help now days.

The best place for a concealed weapon is concealed on my person. Any kind of a lock down in the car is just an invitation to folks who know where to look. Especially here in Illinois where places can just put the correct sign on the door and I'm supposed to disarm. I have made a part time job out of identifying where I'm not allowed to carry and making sure I'm not armed when I go there or I don't go there. Rarely I disarm and lock up a carry pistol and when I do it's well camouflaged or hidden in a Special Place that would not ordinarily conceal a gun. And then the gun is locked with one of those locks that they give us when we buy a gun....the cheezy loak and cable. I'm a proponent in licensed CCL folks being exempt for having to disarm and lock guns in a car. I am licensed and my prints are on file and I passed a proficiency test.

I'm not a criminal so don't treat me like one.

VooDoo