I want a Ruger Redhawk in 45 LC with the 7.5" barrel.
Not surprisingly, it's not on California's handgun roster.
However, I could purchase one if it was made single action.
How does one turn a double action revolver into a single action, and then turn it back into a double action?
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2Following.
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3Pull back hammer. Then pull trigger. Then pull trigger again?.
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4I think the question is how to make it single action *only* so that it meets California legal requirementswooglin wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:39 pm Pull back hammer. Then pull trigger. Then pull trigger again?.
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5Unless it's on the roster in some state approved form I doubt you could get it. But you can bob the hammer so that there is no way to manually cock the hammer which makes a DA/SA revolver single action.
Contact Ruger to see if they sell a version with a bobbed hammer but I still doubt it could get sold in California.
Contact Ruger to see if they sell a version with a bobbed hammer but I still doubt it could get sold in California.
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6Best bet - find a cop who "has" one he'll sell you
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7Usually the hammer is different, the sear part is different in a single action and double action. Likely just buy a single action hammer and plop it in.
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8Is the single-action Blackhawk on the roster?
Or....you COULD get a relative in another state to gift you what you want and send it to your local FFL. I gave my son a non-roster P320 that way.
Or....you COULD get a relative in another state to gift you what you want and send it to your local FFL. I gave my son a non-roster P320 that way.
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9Yeah, the Redhawk in .45 Colt is unobtanium, and the SRH isn't much better. Last I saw the Redhawk listed online, it was during the Covid lockdown, and I missed my shot.
So I got a convertible Blackhawk, and it's awesome. If you don't need the second cylinder, the 7.5" barrel .45 Colt is in stores right now for reasonable. I could get one for a hair over $700 if I ordered online.
The Redhawk in particular may be difficult to convert to SAO given its unique trigger spring configuration. Even in SA it's often described at over a 7 lb pull. Bobbing the hammer would make it DAO with a pull around 14l bs, so you don't want that on so many fronts.
So I got a convertible Blackhawk, and it's awesome. If you don't need the second cylinder, the 7.5" barrel .45 Colt is in stores right now for reasonable. I could get one for a hair over $700 if I ordered online.
The Redhawk in particular may be difficult to convert to SAO given its unique trigger spring configuration. Even in SA it's often described at over a 7 lb pull. Bobbing the hammer would make it DAO with a pull around 14l bs, so you don't want that on so many fronts.
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10Thanks Wings! One of the reasons I went with the Redhawk is I can get the cylinder machined to accept 45 acp. The Blackhawk obviously requires two cylinders. Plus, the Blackhawk 7.5" is only made in blued finish and the Redhawk is stainless.
I might call over to Rifle Gear. I know awhile back they were doing single action conversions of off roster S&W revolvers and also the Chiappa Rhino.
I might call over to Rifle Gear. I know awhile back they were doing single action conversions of off roster S&W revolvers and also the Chiappa Rhino.
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11Riflegear says, "If a revolver can be converted, we will include a note on the product page."
No go on the Redhawk
No go on the Redhawk
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12If barrel length is the issue, then waiting for the Redhawk is going to be a problem. They only make it in 4.2" these days, when they do a run. Not sure if they ever did 7.5" in .45 Colt, but they certainly haven't since 5050 came out - and it's pre-cut for .45 ACP. Even comes with moonclips. On the other hand, every Blackhawk is longer, and there are stainless convertible options if you could settle for 5.5" or 4.62", in either plow handle or Bisley grips. Just not in the stores at the moment.
https://www.ruger.com/products/newModel ... odels.html
Now the Super Redhawk does have a 7.5" in .454 Casull. That would chamber .45 Colt natively, and you can get them cut for moon clips, but my understanding is that accuracy suffers in the Redhawks because of the difference in case length. I would imagine it's worse in Casull, but probably not as bad as the .410 revolvers. The SRH dodges the spring problem you get with the Redhawk trigger group - it's the same as the GP100. Again though with "not in stores at the moment."
https://www.ruger.com/products/newModel ... odels.html
Now the Super Redhawk does have a 7.5" in .454 Casull. That would chamber .45 Colt natively, and you can get them cut for moon clips, but my understanding is that accuracy suffers in the Redhawks because of the difference in case length. I would imagine it's worse in Casull, but probably not as bad as the .410 revolvers. The SRH dodges the spring problem you get with the Redhawk trigger group - it's the same as the GP100. Again though with "not in stores at the moment."
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13Yeah, I was looking at used Redhawks. There are one or two on gunbroker. I might settle for a 5.5" stainless blackhawk. Thought the 7.5 would be more fun to shoot steel with
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1445 colt Blackhawk is your huckleberry I think.
Like wings said above; the .45 colt RedHawks are unobtainable for the past 4 years or so (that I have been looking) I would actually be perfectly happy with them he 4.62 barrel length. I’ve Never seen one in the wild.
Also like wings I have a .45 Colt/.45 ACP Blackhawk convertible as well. Very pleased with this gun.
Like wings said above; the .45 colt RedHawks are unobtainable for the past 4 years or so (that I have been looking) I would actually be perfectly happy with them he 4.62 barrel length. I’ve Never seen one in the wild.
Also like wings I have a .45 Colt/.45 ACP Blackhawk convertible as well. Very pleased with this gun.
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15If you step over to .44 Magnum, there are Redhawks and SRHs in the longer barrel length available new. I think the SRH would be the one to convert, if you did. There are also long barrel Blackhawks out in .44 at the moment, and I've pondered them myself.
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16I don't reload and I like the option of running 45 acp at half the cost of long colt or 44 mag. I'd also have the flexibility to shoot some +p bear loads if I want a kick.
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17IANA gunsmith. Someone like Marlene would probably be of assistance here. I am not sure how you would manage to buy the 7.5" .45 Colt Redhawk and get it converted to SA while living in California. Legality aside, I'm staring at diagrams of the trigger group and sear, and I think it might be possible. For a competent gunsmith.
Best I can tell, the Redhawk has two sears, one for DA and one for SA. Maybe removing the DA fly / hammer dog would prevent the trigger from moving the hammer back to full cock, but still allow it to engage in SA. If the hammer moves the pawl, I think it would still rotate the cylinder properly, but - did I mention I'm not a gunsmith?
I believe the general opinion is that the Blackhawk trigger is much better than the Redhawk, although a well loved Redhawk is smooth enough. I'd wait for the move to Washington and get the real deal.
Best I can tell, the Redhawk has two sears, one for DA and one for SA. Maybe removing the DA fly / hammer dog would prevent the trigger from moving the hammer back to full cock, but still allow it to engage in SA. If the hammer moves the pawl, I think it would still rotate the cylinder properly, but - did I mention I'm not a gunsmith?
I believe the general opinion is that the Blackhawk trigger is much better than the Redhawk, although a well loved Redhawk is smooth enough. I'd wait for the move to Washington and get the real deal.
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18yeah- seems like I am asking my parents for a pet unicorn for my birthday. maybe I will graduate up to a 629...
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19or a ruger super blackhawk hunter. love the lines of that gun
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20[quote=senorgrand post_id=908287 time=1705596087 user_id=4251]
I don't reload and I like the option of running 45 acp at half the cost of long colt or 44 mag. I'd also have the flexibility to shoot some +p bear loads if I want a kick.
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I had a similar product some years or decades ago, accuracy was OK but a bit of a pain to use.
https://www.theshootersbox.com/45-COLT4 ... 35356.html
Less expensive is the Lee Loader, just add components.
https://leeprecision.com/classic-lee-loaders
I don't reload and I like the option of running 45 acp at half the cost of long colt or 44 mag. I'd also have the flexibility to shoot some +p bear loads if I want a kick.
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I had a similar product some years or decades ago, accuracy was OK but a bit of a pain to use.
https://www.theshootersbox.com/45-COLT4 ... 35356.html
Less expensive is the Lee Loader, just add components.
https://leeprecision.com/classic-lee-loaders
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21YES. That was the one that made me consider .44 Magnum.senorgrand wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:14 pm or a ruger super blackhawk hunter. love the lines of that gun
But I don't need .44 Magnum. It's overkill for anything south of bear, and I have a Blackhawk in .45!
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22The old model Vaquero has the same frame. Keep an eye out for one of those. I have the 4-5/8 barrel, which I like just fine.
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23Senior… I’ve personally always liked the lines of the SAA and if single-action is what you need to find it available in CA, sounds like the Super Blackhawk in .45LC is your Huckleberry!
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24I can confirm the SRH in .454 Casull shooting .45 Colt very well. Every now and again I do see them on Gunbroker or Armslist. The SRH can be milled to accept .45 ACP moonclips, just like any other .45 Colt revolver's cylinder.wings wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:27 pm If barrel length is the issue, then waiting for the Redhawk is going to be a problem. They only make it in 4.2" these days, when they do a run. Not sure if they ever did 7.5" in .45 Colt, but they certainly haven't since 5050 came out - and it's pre-cut for .45 ACP. Even comes with moonclips. On the other hand, every Blackhawk is longer, and there are stainless convertible options if you could settle for 5.5" or 4.62", in either plow handle or Bisley grips. Just not in the stores at the moment.
https://www.ruger.com/products/newModel ... odels.html
Now the Super Redhawk does have a 7.5" in .454 Casull. That would chamber .45 Colt natively, and you can get them cut for moon clips, but my understanding is that accuracy suffers in the Redhawks because of the difference in case length. I would imagine it's worse in Casull, but probably not as bad as the .410 revolvers. The SRH dodges the spring problem you get with the Redhawk trigger group - it's the same as the GP100. Again though with "not in stores at the moment."
My own SRH 454 has the 7.5" barrel and is a lot of fun to shoot. It's actually quite rare that I shoot any .454 out of it; nearly everything through it has been various loadings of .45 Colt.
Now, nothing wrong with a Blackhawk if that's what you end up wanting. But be sure to get a Super Blackhawk so you get the added strength of the beefier (original-style) frame.
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25I will get a .454 when scimitar-swinging rabid weasels ride T-Rexes down from the mountains to threaten our peace and well being.
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