sikacz wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:02 pm

cooper wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:45 pm I enjoy the bike discussion, but I also approve of the course correction. Here's my contribution.

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Did the lanyard ring come with the original setup?

Yes, it came with the lanyard ring. They are apparently easy to add with this style of Hogue grip. I bought this used back in February. It was originally a 9.5" barrel that prior owner cut down to 4.2".

cooper wrote:

sikacz wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:02 pm

cooper wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:45 pm I enjoy the bike discussion, but I also approve of the course correction. Here's my contribution.

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Did the lanyard ring come with the original setup?

Yes, it came with the lanyard ring. They are apparently easy to add with this style of Hogue grip. I bought this used back in February. It was originally a 9.5" barrel that prior owner cut down to 4.2".

Indeed, you can buy the little lanyard ring that replaces the grip screw direct from Hogue for a few bucks. I add the hogue monogrip whenever available to any of my revolvers for this reason.

Lanyards are an absolute must when kayaking, canoeing and waterfowling in my book.


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Revolvers do have one other benefit - no matter what kind of magazine restriction or "assault weapon" laws are passed, revolvers are unlikely to be affected. Obviously any kind of carry restrictions affect everything, but unless private gun ownership is completely outlawed, I doubt anyone will be coming for your six-shooter.

Today's pocket carry is my S&W Centennial:

I think the not having a safety to fool with is a huge advantage as well. It’s literally point and shoot.

sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:28 am I think the not having a safety to fool with is a huge advantage as well. It’s literally point and shoot.

This is one big reason I like the double action revolver as my choice for my PD gun. As y'all will recall from reading about my first DGU, I knew who was there, had a plan and intention, and could somewhat control the situation. Not so if there's a bump in the night. All bets would be off. That's where the double action revolver enters the scene. There is no safety, there is no cocking. There is just point and shoot. The real solution is to have "one of each" of all types of desired weapons.

CDFingers

Invictvs, I love that SP101 with the 3" barrel. Someday. But for now, no more spending.

Two of mine are shrouded SA/DA and one a DAO. Benefits of the DOA. Short barrel.
Concealed hammer and pretty good sights for a snubby. Although the others the sights are good enough and the shroud prevents hammer from snagging.

I like that pic through the sights. Good eye.

CDFingers

I have 2 revolvers because a) I figured if they ever do outlaw semi-auto handguns I have these. b) Both look and feel good c) while both shoot .357 magnum /.38 special, one can also shoot 9mm ( see my first reason). Both have 7 rounds, kinda in the line of "This one goes to 11!".

My oldest bike is definitely vintage, It's a Peugeot UO-8 (a classic) that I bought with my summer earnings for $155 + tax in 1972. It's now an indoor exercise bike with the original frame, MAFAC brakes, wheels, Normandy hubs, spokes, shift handles, and quick releases. But over time I've changed the seat post, seat post bolt, seat, bottom bracket, pedals, cranks and chain wheels, back cluster and both front and rear derailleurs. It's now got 15 speeds rather than 10.

CDFingers wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:21 am I like that pic through the sights. Good eye.

CDFingers

It took a little doing with an iPhone. Didn’t get it right on the first try. LoL. But for a snubby those sights are pretty good, at least in my opinion. Even though, training to shoot the snubby should require minimal sight use according to what I’ve learned.

cooper wrote:Invictvs, I love that SP101 with the 3" barrel. Someday. But for now, no more spending.

It’s my first revolver, and probably my favorite. It wasn’t expensive when I bought it …

It’s been on many adventures.

But agreed, I need to keep my eyes off the merchandise as well, kid to get through college and all…


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Now I want a lanyard loop for this critter...

I approve of this thread direction.

I guess wheels and wheelguns go together, but this is better.

RotaryMags wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:41 pm Such a good conversation here!
I grew up with autos and revolvers and I used to feel that revolvers were 'obsolete'. That techtosterone thing. But, I eventually came to the realization that the revolver ALWAYS worked. Even the untrained can just point and pull the trigger. Don't have to rack the slide, don't have to deal with the magazines. Just accept that you have a limited round count.
Now I have my hammer-bobbed .38 Colt Agent and my wife has her .38 LCR for carry. We also have the Mod 19 S&W .357 to go with the Rossi M92 (talk about a great!! home defense gun).
The only time we have had to use one, just my wife racking her USP sent the tresspassers off in a hurry...

"Techtosterone"...good one. I'm gonna use that, too. :-)

Interesting that you mention the Rossi M92 to go with the wheelgun. That sort of combination has become popular again, given that both the .357M and .44M cartridges put out roughly double the power out of the rifle-length barrel vs. the revolver, due to the powders used. You don't get that benefit with, say, the 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP cartridges, due to case capacity and powder burn rate. Indeed, within 100 yards, the .44 Magnum cartridge out of the rifle gives about the same power as the .30-30 Winchester, thus making a fine deer or feral hog round within reasonable distances, e. g. the Applachian woodsy areas.

The Winchester 92 and similar actions (e. g. Ruger 96/44, Henry Big Boy) were the original rapid-fire repeaters. I suppose the anti-2A forces would've called it the "A-SALT WEPPEN" of its area when it first came out. Paired with a good wheelgun, preferably double-action for me, that's a nice, good self-defense and huntin' package.

CDFingers mentioned that the revolver is the original "point & click interface". He's right. That's why my wife likes her wheelgun. It's just easy for her to use.

Also, CDFingers, regarding your first ever (and hopefully last!) DGU, we get that you needed to make a little noise that time. Same idea as rackin' a pump-action shotgun. Bad guy hears that, he's wise to just leave in peace.

How can you leave out the .45 Colt, CowboyT? Tsk, tsk!

Sometimes racking a round works, sometimes it doesn't. With a single action, there's always that satisfying "click" when you cock the hammer.

wings wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:04 am How can you leave out the .45 Colt, CowboyT? Tsk, tsk!

Sometimes racking a round works, sometimes it doesn't. With a single action, there's always that satisfying "click" when you cock the hammer.

Four clicks.

Western Marshall (JP Sauer) 45Colt:
Andrews Leather Tiger Shark holster:

wings wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:04 am How can you leave out the .45 Colt, CowboyT? Tsk, tsk!

Sometimes racking a round works, sometimes it doesn't. With a single action, there's always that satisfying "click" when you cock the hammer.

I know, sacrilege!

But it was for a specific reason. You and I both know that Henry Big Boy actions and Winchester 92 actions can take the Buffalo Bore, "Ruger-only" loads, the actions having been tested by labs to about 40,000 PSI. Henry in particular are quite clear on their Web site about Buffalo Bore loads being OK in their guns. But since the SAAMI spec for .45 Colt is 14,000 PSI, I'm basically being careful in case someone less knowledgeable is reading this. My Buffalo Bore-style loads run at about 32,000 or so PSI, hence why I wanted a Super Redhawk 454 from the outset. I've also fired these loads in the Henry Big Boy and the Rossi 92, both chambered in .45 Colt. No problems. But....as always, be careful and know what you're doing before you try this sort of thing.

By contrast, the .357M and .44M cartridges were high-pressure rounds from the get-go, so no weaker actions there to be worried about.

As for the single-action vs. double-action difference...I like some of the single-actions. They certainly work, as plenty of game animals, sheriffs, and outlaws have learned over the decades. I personally happen to prefer double-action revolvers, but that's just a personal choice. I ain't willingly standin' in front of the business end of ANY gun, including a single-action!

CowboyT wrote:

wings wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:04 am How can you leave out the .45 Colt, CowboyT? Tsk, tsk!

Sometimes racking a round works, sometimes it doesn't. With a single action, there's always that satisfying "click" when you cock the hammer.

I know, sacrilege!

But it was for a specific reason. You and I both know that Henry Big Boy actions and Winchester 92 actions can take the Buffalo Bore, "Ruger-only" loads, the actions having been tested by labs to about 40,000 PSI. Henry in particular are quite clear on their Web site about Buffalo Bore loads being OK in their guns. But since the SAAMI spec for .45 Colt is 14,000 PSI, I'm basically being careful in case someone less knowledgeable is reading this. My Buffalo Bore-style loads run at about 32,000 or so PSI, hence why I wanted a Super Redhawk 454 from the outset. I've also fired these loads in the Henry Big Boy and the Rossi 92, both chambered in .45 Colt. No problems. But....as always, be careful and know what you're doing before you try this sort of thing.

By contrast, the .357M and .44M cartridges were high-pressure rounds from the get-go, so no weaker actions there to be worried about.

As for the single-action vs. double-action difference...I like some of the single-actions. They certainly work, as plenty of game animals, sheriffs, and outlaws have learned over the decades. I personally happen to prefer double-action revolvers, but that's just a personal choice. I ain't willingly standin' in front of the business end of ANY gun, including a single-action!

Backing into heavy handloads for the Henry .45 colt with “buffaloe bore” ammo load datais exactly what I did; to get assurances from the manufacturer.

For anyone curious; My process is on this thread a couple years back:

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Yep, I remember that thread, and it was a good one. You did some helpful homework there. That's actually what helped to inspire me to get a Henry Big Boy in .45 Colt. They're pretty sweet.

Henry still say that on their Website. Looked it up just before purchase.

But again, you and I know this. Others, who haven't done as much research as you have, might end up doing something unsafe. And that's the only reason I committed that "sacrilege", above. For those who have done their homework and know what they're doing, as we have, then the .45 Colt gains equally impressive power levels when A.) it's loaded to those Buffalo Bore +P (i. e. Ruger-style) loads, and B.) it's shot out of a rifle-length barrel, just like .357M and .44M do. Imagine how effective a 255gr cast boolit would be against a feral hog with a Ruger-style load out of a 20" barrel. That's definitely organic pork on the dinner table.

Anyone reading this thread and seeing these posts...yes, enjoy yourselves, but please, BE CAREFUL and do your homework so you know how to do it safely!

When I wanted a big bore, I was seriously considering going 45 Colt with the option of "Ruger" loads. I had my eye on the Ruger Redhawk 4.2" barrel in 45 caliber -- shoots both 45 ACP and 45 Colt. I've got a 1911 in 45 ACP, so I thought this was the way to go, then a carbine to match.

But, like CowboyT alluded to above, you've got to make sure you're being very careful if you're loading over spec. I didn't feel experienced enough to do that, so I went 44 mag (revolver and carbine). That way I'm still doing standard loading and I still have my big bore (I know -- it's .429 instead of .454, but what's .025 among friends?).

I'm happy with my choice. I reload, but in a pinch 44 mag seems more available around here than 45 Colt. Honestly, I was also persuaded by reading lots of opinions that 44 mag is about the maximum most mortals can comfortably handle. I don't know about that, but it's plenty for me.

cooper wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:09 pm
When I wanted a big bore, I was seriously considering going 45 Colt with the option of "Ruger" loads. I had my eye on the Ruger Redhawk 4.2" barrel in 45 caliber -- shoots both 45 ACP and 45 Colt. I've got a 1911 in 45 ACP, so I thought this was the way to go, then a carbine to match.

That’s my thinking as well, but that model RRH is almost unobtainable. I’ve been after it for quite some time - never seen it in the wild or available online.

I ended up with the Ruger Blackhawk convertible in .45 colt with the extra cylinder for .45 ACP. I’ve been quite happy with it, but it shoots mostly .45 Colt.

cooper wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:09 pm
I'm happy with my choice. I reload, but in a pinch 44 mag seems more available around here than 45 Colt. Honestly, I was also persuaded by reading lots of opinions that 44 mag is about the maximum most mortals can comfortably handle. I don't know about that, but it's plenty for me.

Factory .44 mag is definitely more available here as well, and I would say makes more sense for most people. .45 colt when you can find it is atrociously priced. I’ve never bought or fired a single round of factory 45 colt.

My decision to stick with .45 colt over .44 mag was purely on that there is more overlap between.45 ACP and .45 colt reloading components, given that they are the same diameter bullets. In fact I’ve used 200 gr SWC designed for .45 ACP to good effect in my .45 colts.

I’m sure I’ll end up with a .44 mag someday anyways, and will load it down to .44 spec levels, lol.

INVICTVS138 wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:05 pm I’m sure I’ll end up with a .44 mag someday anyways, and will load it down to .44 spec levels, lol.

Yup. I'm doing mostly soft 44 mag loads.

Was just shooting my Ruger 1771 in .357/.38 yesterday with my brother. Forgot how much I like this gun and how much less recoil it has than my H-K VP-9 in 9mm. At 10 yards once I dialed in I kept hitting bulls. My Taurus Tracker is less comfortable but even easier to shoot accurately, especially using the 9mm cylinder rather than the .357/.38 one.

Just bought another of Grant Cunningham’s books. Should be arriving at the end of the week.