“DeSantis vs. Newsom: The Great Red vs. Blue State Debate”

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Fox News has announced details of its planned debate between Democratic California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis later this month. The event, which the network is billing as “DeSantis vs. Newsom: The Great Red vs. Blue State Debate,” will take place at 9 p.m. Nov. 30 and span 90 minutes. Moderated by leading prime-time pundit Sean Hannity, the debate will be presented live from Alpharetta, Ga., but will not feature an audience in attendance.

The goal of the event is to “examine the vastly different approaches the two governors have and offer insights into their political philosophies as well as ambitions for the nation,” the network said, previewing that Hannity will highlight a variety of issues in each state, “including the economy, the border, immigration, crime, and inflation.” The lack of an audience in attendance will allow the governors equal opportunity to respond and address each issue, Fox said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4319 ... om-debate/
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Being dyslexic, Newsom is forced to memorize everything because he can't read off teleprompters. I believe this will give him the advantage against a very insecure guy who commands disinformation rather than facts, which remain stubborn things. Since Newsom says he's not running for president and DeSantis is, Newsom has nothing to ose and everything to gain for the Dems. We know the paltry state of the State of Florida and the dominant state of the State of California. I expect a bloodbath in favor of Newsom and exposure to the faux news nation of a tremendously weak slate for November. We'll see if I'm right.

CDFingers
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YankeeTarheel wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:43 pm How does a reality-based rational man debate a lying sociopathic lunatic?
By having an idiot total tool of ideological Rightwing as moderator.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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TrueTexan wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 5:35 pm
YankeeTarheel wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:43 pm How does a reality-based rational man debate a lying sociopathic lunatic?
By having an idiot total tool of ideological Rightwing as moderator.
Sounds like "debate" would be spelled "travesty".
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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Sean Hannity and Gavin Newsom are an unlikely cable news bromance. The conservative Fox News host and the Democratic California governor are ideologically polar opposites. But their recent joint appearances — an hourlong sit down in June and a lengthy interview after the second Republican presidential candidates’ debate on Sept. 27 at the Ronald Reagan Library — offered a robust but cordial discussion of issues, a rarity these days in a media landscape where politicians and advocates are more comfortable preaching to their own tribes. Hannity, who typically cites California’s problems with crime and housing as a symbol of all that’s wrong with the Democrats, was even singing praises for In-N-Out Burger at his second interview with the governor. “From the first time we met we just hit it off and there was a certain relationship that developed that was like, ‘Oh, come on, you don’t believe all that,’” Hannity said of Newsom in a recent interview at Fox News headquarters in Midtown Manhattan. “It was always friendly and never contentious. You can say anything to him. You can have fun with him.”

The success of their recent meetings prompted Hannity to turn it up a notch. He invited Newsom and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, running for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, to debate on his program. Hannity negotiated the terms and details directly with the political rivals, who will meet Thursday in a 90-minute showdown at 6 p.m. Pacific on Fox News. The matchup is unusual from a TV news perspective because it is rare for two politicians not running against each other to be given such a high-profile forum. (Fox News is calling it “The Great Red vs. Blue State Debate.”) The last memorable example was on May 15, 1967, when a previous California governor, Ronald Reagan, appeared with Robert F. Kennedy, then representing New York in the U.S. Senate, to take questions from students studying overseas for a full hour on CBS. “Neither of them were running at that time,” said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics. “They both were ambitious and everybody suspected they would.” Both men did pursue the presidential nominations of their respective parties the following year, with Kennedy’s surging campaign ending when he was assassinated just after winning the California Democratic primary. But it was Reagan who burnished his national reputation on the 1967 program, as the polished former actor displayed a firm grasp of global affairs. The moment helped set him on his path to the White House in 1980. On Thursday, Hannity will question the dueling governors himself — without an audience — in Alpharetta, Ga.
Hannity has given assurances he won’t be the wrestling referee who looks the other way while one of the brawlers brings a steel chair into the ring. He noted that Newsom was pleased with their first interview. “I kept my pledge to give him a fair shot and let him answer,” Hannity said. “If I have one goal going in, it’s that people walk away and say, ‘Wow that was a good, spirited, healthy informative debate.’” Mike Murphy, a screenwriter and longtime Republican political consultant, said there is value in Newsom’s willingness to appear in a potentially hostile environment as he builds a national reputation. “There’s a feeling sometimes among Democrats that nobody goes into the Fox lion’s den with a big stick and fights back, so I think he thinks he might help the wider cause while helping himself,” Murphy said. “I’m always in favor of grab a microphone and go on offense as long as it’s live TV and nobody can edit it.” Newsom has said in the past that he watches conservative media. He may be better acquainted than most Democrats, as his ex-wife is Kimberly Guilfoyle, a former co-host of the Fox News panel show “The Five” who is now engaged to Donald Trump Jr. Hannity recalls Newsom visiting Guilfoyle at the network’s offices and studios. While Murphy thinks Newsom’s upcoming appearance can help pave the road to a future White House run, he believes there is short-term risk for Democrats. The governor’s smoothness and on-camera vigor could invite more discussion about Biden’s age — the president turned 81 on Nov. 20 — which has become a significant issue among pollsters and pundits.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-a ... tis-debate
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Good post, highdesert. This is why I'm optimistic. Newsom thinks quickly and well on his feet, as those interviews with Hannity show. I'll watch if I can. Maybe I'll go to a local bar that has Fox on TV. I don't have it. Might be a free online place I can watch. After the fact it will be available.

CDFingers
The wheel is turning and you can't slow down. You can't let go and you can't hold on.
You can't go back and you can't stand still. If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will

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YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:19 pm
CDFingers wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:40 am I'm leaning towards a bar...

CDFingers
Bourbon, Gin&Tonic, Rum&Coke, or, (ugh!) Scotch?
I'm really a beer man: I can nurse two pints for a hour and still walk home.

CDFingers
The wheel is turning and you can't slow down. You can't let go and you can't hold on.
You can't go back and you can't stand still. If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will

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CDFingers wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:31 am
YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:19 pm
CDFingers wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:40 am I'm leaning towards a bar...

CDFingers
Bourbon, Gin&Tonic, Rum&Coke, or, (ugh!) Scotch?
I'm really a beer man: I can nurse two pints for a hour and still walk home.

CDFingers
I like beer but it goes to my waist. When I do have a beer it's usually an IPA that has citrus and floral hops, I don't care for strong pine and spice hops. Or a good pale ale. For about the same calories I can have a Scotch on the rocks or a gin with no sugar tonic water.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Carnivores consume too many calories. People tend to eat like they ate when they were teens, but in later age we just don't burn as much. Once we're done actually building our bodies, we don't need meat. But we still need beer. ;-)

CDFingers
The wheel is turning and you can't slow down. You can't let go and you can't hold on.
You can't go back and you can't stand still. If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will

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CDFingers wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:25 pm Carnivores consume too many calories. People tend to eat like they ate when they were teens, but in later age we just don't burn as much. Once we're done actually building our bodies, we don't need meat. But we still need beer. ;-)

CDFingers
With one foot on a banana peel and the other in a grave, I intend to enjoy what life I have left and eat and drink whatever I wish!! As the old adage says "None of us is getting out of here alive!" LOL YMMV
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I think they should make televised political debates a drinking game. Each statement is fact checked by a panel of academics, and for each lie, they have to take a shot.

Humor aside
Newsom will mop the floor with DeSantis, but he will come off as an arrogant douchebag in the process. But that's what sells the copy these days. Both sides will get their "moments" that will be featured on Tic-Toc and Youtube where they "own" the other side. Political theater.
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I'm betting DeSantis will wear his "I'm bowel cleansing for a colonoscopy tomorrow morning" scowl that is his signature. I also believe his perfectly round head would make a really good bowling ball. I'm watching the 'Boys and Seahawks instead.
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made in USA was electing DJT as POTUS.

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Most of Texas will be watching the 'Boys and Seahawks instead. We have to set our priorities and watching the ‘Boys takes precedent over all. I know we have World Champion baseball teams, but football is still the national sport of the Texas Republic.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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CDFingers wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:31 am
YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:19 pm
CDFingers wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:40 am I'm leaning towards a bar...

CDFingers
Bourbon, Gin&Tonic, Rum&Coke, or, (ugh!) Scotch?
I'm really a beer man: I can nurse two pints for a hour and still walk home.

CDFingers
I'm not Irish in any sense of the word, but Guinness is still my all-time favorite brew.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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The best line was from Newsom that went something like, "One thing we both have in common is neither of us will be our party's nominee for presdient." Burn. I hated the talking over. I think Newsom wiped the floor with DeSantis.

CDFingers
The wheel is turning and you can't slow down. You can't let go and you can't hold on.
You can't go back and you can't stand still. If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will

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