YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:09 pm

sig230 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:35 pm While the 320 has never interested me the reports of Immaculate Discharge are not very convincing. First, Sig has always be very good when it comes to manufacturing issues often going beyond what is legally required when it comes to recalls but with the 320, it seems Sig has been unable to duplicate a single instance of the gun going off when it's not intended to do so; no reports of armorers finding guns where the striker fire when the gun was in the rack or safe, no reports of guns going off when in the drawer or safe at home and lots of reports of guns going off when being handled or in holsters but the holster moving.

If they weren't quite so butt ugly I'd have no reservations buying one as long as I knew no one I knew saw me with it.

The only documented evidence I've seen is of a P320 falling directly on the back end of the slide, at the exact perfect angle and that was address by the "Voluntary Upgrade". Everything else sounds like incompetent mishandling--especially that guy shot in the hand.

sig230 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:19 pm

YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:09 pm

sig230 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:35 pm While the 320 has never interested me the reports of Immaculate Discharge are not very convincing. First, Sig has always be very good when it comes to manufacturing issues often going beyond what is legally required when it comes to recalls but with the 320, it seems Sig has been unable to duplicate a single instance of the gun going off when it's not intended to do so; no reports of armorers finding guns where the striker fire when the gun was in the rack or safe, no reports of guns going off when in the drawer or safe at home and lots of reports of guns going off when being handled or in holsters but the holster moving.

If they weren't quite so butt ugly I'd have no reservations buying one as long as I knew no one I knew saw me with it.

The only documented evidence I've seen is of a P320 falling directly on the back end of the slide, at the exact perfect angle and that was address by the "Voluntary Upgrade". Everything else sounds like incompetent mishandling--especially that guy shot in the hand.

And on the Voluntary Upgrade Sig not only twice extended the timeline but also extended refunds.

All of the evidence shows that IF there was a known or even suspect defect Sig traditionally has addressed the issue.

sig230 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:35 pm While the 320 has never interested me the reports of Immaculate Discharge are not very convincing. First, Sig has always be very good when it comes to manufacturing issues often going beyond what is legally required when it comes to recalls but with the 320, it seems Sig has been unable to duplicate a single instance of the gun going off when it's not intended to do so; no reports of armorers finding guns where the striker fire when the gun was in the rack or safe, no reports of guns going off when in the drawer or safe at home and lots of reports of guns going off when being handled or in holsters but the holster moving.

If they weren't quite so butt ugly I'd have no reservations buying one as long as I knew no one I knew saw me with it.

YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:01 pm

sig230 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:19 pm

YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:09 pm

sig230 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:35 pm While the 320 has never interested me the reports of Immaculate Discharge are not very convincing. First, Sig has always be very good when it comes to manufacturing issues often going beyond what is legally required when it comes to recalls but with the 320, it seems Sig has been unable to duplicate a single instance of the gun going off when it's not intended to do so; no reports of armorers finding guns where the striker fire when the gun was in the rack or safe, no reports of guns going off when in the drawer or safe at home and lots of reports of guns going off when being handled or in holsters but the holster moving.

If they weren't quite so butt ugly I'd have no reservations buying one as long as I knew no one I knew saw me with it.

The only documented evidence I've seen is of a P320 falling directly on the back end of the slide, at the exact perfect angle and that was address by the "Voluntary Upgrade". Everything else sounds like incompetent mishandling--especially that guy shot in the hand.

And on the Voluntary Upgrade Sig not only twice extended the timeline but also extended refunds.

All of the evidence shows that IF there was a known or even suspect defect Sig traditionally has addressed the issue.

The "hit piece" was a disgrace to the WaPo.

highdesert wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:58 am

YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:01 pm

sig230 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:19 pm

YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:09 pm

The only documented evidence I've seen is of a P320 falling directly on the back end of the slide, at the exact perfect angle and that was address by the "Voluntary Upgrade". Everything else sounds like incompetent mishandling--especially that guy shot in the hand.

And on the Voluntary Upgrade Sig not only twice extended the timeline but also extended refunds.

All of the evidence shows that IF there was a known or even suspect defect Sig traditionally has addressed the issue.

The "hit piece" was a disgrace to the WaPo.

I agree, I've never read about any compelling evidence that the P320 goes off without the trigger being depressed. The anti-gun MSM loves to run those types of stories, but their reporters have little knowledge of guns so they're really just repeating gossip.