I agree with you, wings. It's quite sad, but the way to cut off people having ammo is to restrict ammo sales as well as restricting access to powders and primers and bullets. Now, folks can still cast up a storm, but without powders and primers, it's not viable.

What can be done? Powders and primers are not "arms." Whether this Court will extend "common use" provisions to them is dubious, especially after the over turn of Roe.

CDFingers

That was the point of Ted Kennedy's 1975 statement, "no ammo, no guns." That's why I fight ammo restrictions as hard as I do firearms restrictions. Yet ol' Teddy "Chappaquiddick" Kennedy had armed phalanxes, magazines filled to the gills with ammo, protecting his corrupt ass. Same goes for that asshole, Kevin "TheLyin" deLeon and his ilk.

And I would remind everyone here that a revolution got started because our previous government (the British Empire) tried to confiscate the powder stored at Concord. So, I don't know how an actual ammo ban would fly, legally, especially if there's any case law on the subject confirming that ammo is part of "arms" (IANAL).

Stack your reloading components deep, folks. Shortages will come again. Learn from the previous ones.

This was Sen. Teddy Kennedy's thesis. "No ammo, no guns."

Such a legal regime targeting ammunition might not survive a court challenge, depending on where such horrid laws would be enacted (think California and New York as examples). It likely would go to the SCOTUS after years of anti-2A state or Federal government officials trying to drag out the process using their essentially bottomless taxpayer money tree.

This is why I believe so strongly in rolling your own, if you can. We are getting ever closer to a Presidential election, folks. Another thread on the LGC forums speaks of a nitrocelluose shortage. Get a good stock-up now, and get a reloading setup if you haven't already.

I relocated my reloading stuff a while back and found powders, brass, and tools I didn't know I had. Several old containers, mostly gone but still some useful amounts left. Loaded the last dregs of some 2400 into some stout .41 jacketed rounds and it performed just like new. Now I wish I had more, but it seems to be as scarce as primers were a while back. Still have a lot (too much?) of other powders, many of which were just to try and not used much beyond that. Herco's a bit dirty, but still good for my .45 and other pistol. Used a lot for shotshell. Not much recent data, but older manuals have some good loads.

Site for older Alliant (Hercules) data

https://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Freeb ... liant.html

Some of that forgotten tooling just went for more that I thought it would bring on ebay. Seems others are getting the hint that you might need to be your own ammo supplier.

I stocked up between shortages and should have enough components to reload all the calibers I currently run for the rest of my Life. That is, if I shoot/practice/train conservatively. Burned 150 rounds at the range this last week and managed to replace it with store bought ammunition thus conserving my stock of reloading supplies.

Going forward I intend to adjust my consumption of ammunition according to availability of components. I'm testing out new sources of primers from overseas. Interesting how some of these components are unavailable in the US but plentiful abroad.

VooDoo

VodoundaVinci wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 9:31 am I stocked up between shortages and should have enough components to reload all the calibers I currently run for the rest of my Life. That is, if I shoot/practice/train conservatively. Burned 150 rounds at the range this last week and managed to replace it with store bought ammunition thus conserving my stock of reloading supplies.

Going forward I intend to adjust my consumption of ammunition according to availability of components. I'm testing out new sources of primers from overseas. Interesting how some of these components are unavailable in the US but plentiful abroad.

VooDoo

That is interesting, indeed. Perhaps it's because the US companies have been selling the majority of their output to the police and military as assembled ammunition. It's largely in the USA that the general public would notice such a shortage, because the Second Amendment and our long shooting tradition mean more reloaders per capita here than other places, most likely.

However, I have also learned that there's a bit of a thriving reloading community in Brazil. Apparently Lee presses, or copies thereof, have a respectable presence in that country. One Brazilian reloader contacted me some years ago regarding help with his Lee Pro 1000 press. Seems he'd used my videos to set his up, and he ran into a snag, so we went through it. Learned he's got a .38 Special and enjoys marksmanship. We found the mistake he was making, he corrected it, and he was off to the races. That was refreshing to learn that others, outside this country, also enjoy this hobby.