I stumbled across a mention of this CZ 457 variant a few days ago and I'm a bit obsesses.

https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-jaguar/

I don't find time to do a fraction of the handgun shooting I'd like, and that's my higher priority, so I really don't need another rifle, but it sure is cute and weird! Not unaffordable, either...

Indeed if you plan to shoot purely with iron sights, that rifle will be a keen plinker!

I saw it in a store and fell in love with it!!! I already have a CZ 452, and 2 10/22's, so I don't need another 22. But it was tempting.

I was seduced into the modern 22lr rifle fold a few years ago and now have two Ruger 10/22s but honestly it is still my Remington 241 "Speedmaster" made in 1949 that I enjoy the most and shoot the most accurately.
But I do use the carry case from my 10/22 "Takedown".

Hiker wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:32 am I saw it in a store and fell in love with it!!! I already have a CZ 452, and 2 10/22's, so I don't need another 22. But it was tempting.

I’d be tempted too, but my CZ 455 UltraLux comes with the same length barrel. I can live with my safety location and I can get a better trigger guard from a custom vendor. Nice to see some detail improvement’s though.

Ya'all aren't being very vigorous enablers! ;^) Flog harder!

Yesterday I saw a few photos on a forum with a can on it. I doubt I'll get a suppressor, but I can dream. I couldn't find the thread again quickly, so here's a photo I like from Rimfire Central, sans can.

You NEED that rifle. It is classically beautiful and I bet it's very accurate.

No one else said it, so I thought I better. I'm actually not kidding. That thing looks great.

I bet you could dot an i with it at 100 yds. I see the msrp is over 600 Washingtons. What are they asking?
wouldn't expect either of my 10/22s to come close that. And well, everyone needs a super accurate .22.

I hear folks who competition shoot .22’s often like to compete on long sight-radius bolt-action CZ’s. They also compete with sub-sonic target-match rounds for greater accuracy.

This one is an extraordinary example with a nearly 29” barrel. At that length you are already friction-slowing the bullet before it leaves the crown. But the accuracy of the magic-barrel allows for lobbing the bullet onto the target with great consistency.

BTW, that’s a beautiful Remington, Sig.

I owned a 26” barrel Savage bolt action that I swear was possessed by the god of plinking. All you have to do is point it at something and you’ll likely hit it.

Well now I have to brag on my Winchester Model 67 single shot .22 short, long and long rifle. I believe it is pre-war due to its grooved forend. She's in good shape sporting a 27in barrel. Prolly wouldn't out shoot a cz but close.
I should prolly have it bedded.

Buck13 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:48 pm Ya'all aren't being very vigorous enablers! ;^) Flog harder!

Yesterday I saw a few photos on a forum with a can on it. I doubt I'll get a suppressor, but I can dream. I couldn't find the thread again quickly, so here's a photo I like from Rimfire Central, sans can.

457jag.jpg

Well duh! If you don’t have a CZ with a 28.6” barrel, you absolutely need one! LoL. That’s essentially the UltraLux rifle which is target quality 22 for a lot less.

cooper wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:05 pm You NEED that rifle. It is classically beautiful and I bet it's very accurate.

No one else said it, so I thought I better. I'm actually not kidding. That thing looks great.

Yes, the grain sweeping across the stock in that forum photo I stole looks particularly nice, to me.

Of course, if I order one from my LGS the wood will be whatever they get from their distributor. They only have the Lux and the Training Rifle in the shop now for 457s with wood stocks and iron sights. I'd look at the Training Rifle but it has an odd 1/2-20 thread on the muzzle. If I'm getting a threaded barrel, I'd want the 1/2-28 even if I'm unlikely to get a can.

tonguengroover wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:24 pm I see the msrp is over 600 Washingtons. What are they asking?

https://www.preciseshooter.com/Inventor ... 6703023724

I don't think there are any additional fees, although the Ds in the state leg ran wild with gun bills last session, and they may have passed something with a sin tax that I don't remember. Might even have had it before and I forgot I paid it on my latest buys!

But if not, sales tax is basically 10% so a little over $650 out the door.

sikacz wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:09 pm

Buck13 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:48 pm Ya'all aren't being very vigorous enablers! ;^) Flog harder!

Yesterday I saw a few photos on a forum with a can on it. I doubt I'll get a suppressor, but I can dream. I couldn't find the thread again quickly, so here's a photo I like from Rimfire Central, sans can.

457jag.jpg

Well duh! If you don’t have a CZ with a 28.6” barrel, you absolutely need one! LoL. That’s essentially the UltraLux rifle which is target quality 22 for a lot less.

That's how ya do it! Good on ya.

Bisbee wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:32 pm I hear folks who competition shoot .22’s often like to compete on long sight-radius bolt-action CZ’s. They also compete with sub-sonic target-match rounds for greater accuracy.

This one is an extraordinary example with a nearly 29” barrel. At that length you are already friction-slowing the bullet before it leaves the crown. But the accuracy of the magic-barrel allows for lobbing the bullet onto the target with great consistency.

Oddly, I found out about this rifle because I was doing a search for "Aguila Interceptor" and found a thread (on Rimfire Central, probably) in which someone said that he got really good accuracy from this rifle with Interceptor, which is a bit odd (since you're right, usually standard vel 22s are said to be best) but if he was only using the iron sights, it's pretty hard to be confident what the accuracy of ammo really is, unless someone is REALLY good with irons. Maybe he was one of the people who mounted a peep sight on it somehow, though. Perhaps with this crazy-long barrel hypervelocity ammo works OK?

Downside was that he said he cleaned the bore every ten rounds, IIRC. That's not very appealing! In fact, that's what concerns me most about this long barrel. I don't think I even have a cleaning rod long enough, so I'd need to add that to my kit. A minor issue, but still a nuisance. I don't ever clean at the range!

Right now I have three bricks or so of Interceptor, a few bricks of Aguila SE HV, a couple thousand Aguila SE SV, a few bricks of CCI SV, a couple bricks of Aguila Target Rifle and about 4000 rounds of Federal AutoMatch (plus a thousand or so Eley Target that I'm mainly saving for my spousal critter's MkIV 22/45, because she's convinced it's the most reliable ammo in it), so I have way more 22LR ammo to play with than time to test it. Panic buying over the last decade has worked out well for me...

Oops, my memory failed me, again. (I always say I have the memory of an alcoholic toddler.) It was this comment, and he has a scoped Lux. That must have started me looking at other CZ models.
https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/ ... st-4083034

Buck13 wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:37 am Oops, my memory failed me, again. (I always say I have the memory of an alcoholic toddler.) It was this comment, and he has a scoped Lux. That must have started me looking at other CZ models.
https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/ ... st-4083034

At 50 yards a good shooter will do pretty tight groups with the UltraLux even without a scope. A 28.6” barrel doesn’t need a scope to be accurate, but why not if that’s one’s thing. Buy one go for it!

Sad news: I got my spousal critter's OK to go buy one of these since my favorite FFL has one in stock at the moment and starting the purchase this week would be the last chance before the stupid new state law on waiting periods goes into effect. On Tuesday I went down and sat in my car at work to drive to the FFL, then decided that as cute as this rifle is, I didn't want to be stampeded into buying another .22 rifle that I'll rarely shoot, even if all the others I own are semi-autos, just because the law becomes slightly more pesky.

I decided I should just put a halfway decent scope on one of my 10/22s instead. Thinking of going basic and doing a Leupold 2-7x rimfire. A Vortex with an mrad Xmas tree reticle is tempting because I love stuff that's visually busy and confusing, but it seems foolish to try to turn a box-stock 10/22 into an NRL22 gun, and the Leupold keeps the package all-domestic.

I'm sure I'll regret this in a matter of weeks...

Should never pass on a good .22LR bolt action. Also never pass up a spousal critter’s approval.

Sikacz is right. The “reasonable” rarely factors into the emotional itch that firearms scratch. And a spouse’s approval should never be squandered. Unless you are collecting spousal-credit for a larger purchase you’ve ID’ed in the proximate future.

Bisbee wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:14 pm Unless you are collecting spousal-credit for a larger purchase you’ve ID’ed in the proximate future.

Sika is right. And Bisbee is a chess player.

sikacz wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:36 am Should never pass on a good .22LR bolt action. Also never pass up a spousal critter’s approval.

The problem is that at this point, I want to own it more than I want to shoot it. I already have three .22 rifles: an old Model 60 that needs work (I bought a mainspring for it years ago to see if that would help it cycle better, but never installed it), a 10/22 carbine and a 10/22 with threaded 20" barrel and plastic camo stock that I bought a year ago. I bought BK triggers for the 10/22s a couple of months ago and haven't installed them yet. The newer one I've shot exactly once and the others I haven't shot in years. My range time is pretty limited and I prefer to focus on handguns. I should have tried to get rid of the Model 60 long ago to free up room in the safe.

Other than sighting in, I'd also prefer to shoot from field positions than from a bench. So, while the 10/22s are presumably inherently less accurate than the CZ, it's unlikely that in my hands the difference in group size would really be apparent.

Bisbee wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:14 pm Sikacz is right. The “reasonable” rarely factors into the emotional itch that firearms scratch. And a spouse’s approval should never be squandered. Unless you are collecting spousal-credit for a larger purchase you’ve ID’ed in the proximate future.

No, just the scope right now.

Unless you count the Springfield Range Officer .45 I bought a year ago which I didn't really tell her about. I bought a Hi Point 9 mm carbine and a bullpup stock for it at the same time because the state was about to ban everything about that package, which I did tell her about, so the trips to the FFL were explained by that purchase. I had an EAA Hunter 10 mm that I sold a few years ago because it was aggravating my flinch, and because it turned out that their two-piece guide rod design was held together by a pin that couldn't stand up to the drama of 10 mm. She doesn't pay close attention to those details so the 1911 looks enough like the Hunter that I could explain it away.

Buck13 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:26 am

sikacz wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:36 am Should never pass on a good .22LR bolt action. Also never pass up a spousal critter’s approval.

The problem is that at this point, I want to own it more than I want to shoot it. I already have three .22 rifles: an old Model 60 that needs work (I bought a mainspring for it years ago to see if that would help it cycle better, but never installed it), a 10/22 carbine and a 10/22 with threaded 20" barrel and plastic camo stock that I bought a year ago. I bought BK triggers for the 10/22s a couple of months ago and haven't installed them yet. The newer one I've shot exactly once and the others I haven't shot in years. My range time is pretty limited and I prefer to focus on handguns. I should have tried to get rid of the Model 60 long ago to free up room in the safe.

Other than sighting in, I'd also prefer to shoot from field positions than from a bench. So, while the 10/22s are presumably inherently less accurate than the CZ, it's unlikely that in my hands the difference in group size would really be apparent.

Shooting with a sling will compensate for the length. LoL. I haven’t been able to shoot any of my rifles for a year due to my surgery, but knowing one day I can pick that beauty up and enjoy is enough for me. Stress the point, once my spouse says buy a gun, I do. It makes her feel empowered and that she has control, which she does. I would never disappoint her. LoL. I understand if you just really don’t want it, but you really do have to do a lot of improvement on a 10/22 to make it better than a CZ with a long barrel.

Buck13 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:26 am

sikacz wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:36 am Should never pass on a good .22LR bolt action. Also never pass up a spousal critter’s approval.

The problem is that at this point, I want to own it more than I want to shoot it. I already have three .22 rifles: an old Model 60 that needs work (I bought a mainspring for it years ago to see if that would help it cycle better, but never installed it), a 10/22 carbine and a 10/22 with threaded 20" barrel and plastic camo stock that I bought a year ago. I bought BK triggers for the 10/22s a couple of months ago and haven't installed them yet. The newer one I've shot exactly once and the others I haven't shot in years. My range time is pretty limited and I prefer to focus on handguns. I should have tried to get rid of the Model 60 long ago to free up room in the safe.

Other than sighting in, I'd also prefer to shoot from field positions than from a bench. So, while the 10/22s are presumably inherently less accurate than the CZ, it's unlikely that in my hands the difference in group size would really be apparent.

The correct number is 12 (for me) I have six 22 pistols and six rifles (they follow you home sometimes); I think this would make yourself a great holiday present.