Ran across a Rossi 92 in .38/357 with a nice, octagonal barrel. Picked it up, but it turns out that when firing .357M through it, the brass looks like it's been "Glocked". That means there's a tell-tale sign of the chamber not fully supporting the round. I stopped after about 10 rounds. We'd tried Federal, Remington, and Winchester ammo, and it happened to all three types. Took it to a local gunsmith at lunchtime, and after inspecting both the rifle and some fired cases, he said, "T, you were right to stop firing it, and don't fire it again until it's fixed. Case head failure would blow right back into your face. This gun needs a new chamber and thus a new barrel. Give Rossi a call."

Called Rossi USA and let 'em know. They're sending me a shipping label. We'll see how this goes. I hope that they do fix this without giving me any problems. The true strength of any company, including a firearms company, is in how they treat their customers *after* the sale.

Will update this thread with whatever Rossi ends up doing/saying.

Yes I'll definitely be interested in Rossi's response!

Wow. This was a very interesting post. One would think no self respecting company would sell such a weak weapon. Please keep us posted on what Rossi says.

I had a Winchester 92 in .357, and it shot fine with no signs on the brass. Only reason I traded it was because it was too small for my body. Shot great with fine accuracy, but to me it was like shooting a BB gun. I prefer the size and heft of my Marlin 336 in .30-30. I must admit I burned more reloads with that Win92 than with other rifles because it was just so fun to shoot. Totally small recoil with good magazine capacity makes any self respecting 2 liter soda bottle tremble in fear.

CDFingers

CowboyT wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:23 pm Ran across a Rossi 92 in .38/357 with a nice, octagonal barrel. Picked it up, but it turns out that when firing .357M through it, the brass looks like it's been "Glocked". That means there's a tell-tale sign of the chamber not fully supporting the round. I stopped after about 10 rounds. We'd tried Federal, Remington, and Winchester ammo, and it happened to all three types. Took it to a local gunsmith at lunchtime, and after inspecting both the rifle and some fired cases, he said, "T, you were right to stop firing it, and don't fire it again until it's fixed. Case head failure would blow right back into your face. This gun needs a new chamber and thus a new barrel. Give Rossi a call."

Called Rossi USA and let 'em know. They're sending me a shipping label. We'll see how this goes. I hope that they do fix this without giving me any problems. The true strength of any company, including a firearms company, is in how they treat their customers *after* the sale.

Will update this thread with whatever Rossi ends up doing/saying.

You didn't mention if it was new or used. Shouldn't matter if it's new.

Doesn’t matter. Taurus/Rossi will take care of it under warranty. Hopefully in the first go-around.

But I suspect they will return the gun and say, “All within our specs.” Which means shoot .38 or target round .357 or don’t expect to reload the brass again. Probably not as dramatic as the gunsmith makes it out to be. The ‘92 action is rather stout. Not likely to blow apart in your face.

BTW, I own the Rossi 92 20” standard barrel. Snoots wonderfully with my somewhat conservative hand loads. Haven’t noticed any deformed brass from factory loads (Remington 125gr SJHP).

And yes, I got CD’s Winchester ‘92 Trapper and shot that a while before running across my current Rossi. Let the short barreled Trapper go.
I’m glad CD still likes to balance equinox-eggs on that old (beautiful) Marlin I traded.

Interesting issues this gent has with his Rossi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wos0RVSahE

F4FEver wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:13 am Interesting issues this gent has with his Rossi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wos0RVSahE

Gee, pond and beaver problems. Problems I wish I had. Beautiful property.

Bisbee wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:02 am And yes, I got CD’s Winchester ‘92 Trapper and shot that a while before running across my current Rossi. Let the short barreled Trapper go.
I’m glad CD still likes to balance equinox-eggs on that old (beautiful) Marlin I traded.

In my view, nothing intimidates more than a grouchy old dude on his front porch dangling a lever gun and palming an emu egg. "Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?"

CDFingers

O'gee Rossi makes a lever gun in 454 Casull. It looks pretty too in polished stainless which almost looks black. The R92. Looks pretty stout, even the stock looks big.
https://rossiusa.com/rifles/lever-actio ... less-20-in

The 454 Casull Rossi 92 is likely very similar to the .44lc 92, maybe beefier barrel chamber. Rossi built the .44lc very strout so that it is known (in the cowboy community) to handle “Ruger Only” loads that match the ballistics of .44mag out of a 20”+ longer barrel version.

I don't yet own a .454. I was going to get the ammo trailer first to make it easier to take to the range.

CDFingers

Fun fact about the round. Uses a small rifle primer. Who knew? I thought large pistol primer.

The .454 Casull was finally commercialized in 1997, when SAAMI published its first standards for the cartridge.[6][7][8] The new Casull round uses a small rifle primer rather than a pistol primer, because it develops extremely high chamber pressures of over 60,000 CUP (copper units of pressure) (410 MPa), and the rifle primer has a significantly stronger CUP than a pistol primer.[9]

The round is one of the most powerful handgun cartridges in production.[5] The .454 Casull generates almost 5 times the recoil of the .45 Colt, and about 75% more recoil energy than the .44 Magnum.[6] It can deliver a 250 grain (16 g) bullet with a muzzle velocity of over 1,900 feet per second (580 m/s), developing up to 2,000 ft-lb (2.7 kJ) of energy from a handgun. One Buffalo Bore loading drives a heavier, 300 grain, JFN bullet at 1,650 ft/s for 1,813 ft-lb of muzzle energy.[10] The .454 Casull round is primarily intended for hunting medium or large game, metallic silhouette shooting, and bear protection.[11][12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.454_Casull

Interesting. Being currently rimfire obsessed, I have had my eye on a Rossi RS22W2111 RS22 .22 WMR, and one guy on YouTube complained about bulging cases and a potentially deformed chamber. That started a whole thread of responses, and 5 or 10% of those who responded noted the same thing, though for some, it was ammo dependent, for others, consistent.

CDFingers wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:49 pm One would think no self respecting company would sell such a weak weapon.

I don't think it's inherent to the design, but rather that specific example. Sounds like either some serious bubba, or, knowing the manufacturer's spotty record on QA/QC, something bad happened during the reaming of the chamber and it either wasn't noticed or someone decided to ship it anyway. I'd bet on the latter pretty heavily. I seem to recall an anecdote a "few" years ago about a Taurus revolver that had a wildly unfinished barrel that wasn't even bored, or something like that! Had a big chunk of metal on the front where anyone could see at a glance it was wrong.

I have one just like CT's. (It's comically barrel-heavy, IMHO, but that's what a guy was selling out of the trunk of car at the time, when that was still legal here, and the SASS guys hoover up all the round-barrels.) I'll admit to not inspecting my brass QUITE as carefully as I should, but I've shot a few pretty spicy loads out of it (including some heavy loads of Lil'Gun that were interesting and made even that heavy barrel jump quite a bit) and I never noticed Glock Smile on my revolver brass.