tonguengroover wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:32 pm I'm sorry I'd buy it and drink it if it actually tasted like beer.
I was tempted though.

YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 7:50 am

tonguengroover wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:32 pm I'm sorry I'd buy it and drink it if it actually tasted like beer.
I was tempted though.

Yeah, that's the problem I have with Budweiser. Tastes like panther piss.
20-25 years ago, my cousin offered me "a beer". It was a nearly-frozen Lite and despite being so cold, I couldn't drink more than 1/3 before the awful taste got to me.
The closest thing to a commercial American beer that I'll drink is Sam Adams.

Of course, these days, when I can only drink a little every few days, I don't drink beer at all, only near-beer like Kaliber or Guinness Zero (which looks, tastes and feels like Stout).

sikacz wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 10:56 am I get Bud Light isn’t a great beer, fine. But, what about the original issue, standing with inclusion of the transgender community versus being on the same side as the conservative bigots like baby rock. Admittedly the executive’s at bud lights’ parent company are back peddling as fast as they can, but where’s the solidarity to the transgender community. I think it deserves better discussion from this group than how awful Bud Light is as a beer.

TrueTexan wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 10:35 am

YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 7:50 am

tonguengroover wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:32 pm I'm sorry I'd buy it and drink it if it actually tasted like beer.
I was tempted though.

Yeah, that's the problem I have with Budweiser. Tastes like panther piss.
20-25 years ago, my cousin offered me "a beer". It was a nearly-frozen Lite and despite being so cold, I couldn't drink more than 1/3 before the awful taste got to me.
The closest thing to a commercial American beer that I'll drink is Sam Adams.

Of course, these days, when I can only drink a little every few days, I don't drink beer at all, only near-beer like Kaliber or Guinness Zero (which looks, tastes and feels like Stout).

YT you want Panther Piss drink Coors. Good Beer is Shiner Bock.

BearPaws wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 12:16 pm

sikacz wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 10:56 am I get Bud Light isn’t a great beer, fine. But, what about the original issue, standing with inclusion of the transgender community versus being on the same side as the conservative bigots like baby rock. Admittedly the executive’s at bud lights’ parent company are back peddling as fast as they can, but where’s the solidarity to the transgender community. I think it deserves better discussion from this group than how awful Bud Light is as a beer.

Yes. You're right. The discussion could be more productive.

To the point of the company aiming for inclusion: I'm glad of it. I also recognize that it's a business decision; they want to find a buyer demographic to replace the old white cretins as they pass on to other journeys (attrition being a thing, after all...).

Frankly, I don't know that their attempt at inclusivity got them enough more sales than it lost them, purely because of the demographics of who does/doesn't drink their product. If an article on Faux Nooz is to be believed (and I'm always suspicious of the veracity of anything from that network), their net sales went down, suggesting that the LGBTQ+ community isn't interested enough in their product based on a little bit of marketing. The folks in that demographic tend to be pretty savvy consumers, in my limited experience.

And it seems to me that a LOT of the Bud Light market IS older, Caucasian, imagines itself as rural, and has unfortunate attitudes about inclusion.

Target is removing some items from its stores and making other changes to its LGBTQ+ merchandise nationwide ahead of Pride month after intense backlash from some customers who confronted workers and tipped over displays. “Since introducing this year’s collection, we’ve experienced threats impacting our team members’ sense of safety and well-being while at work,” Target said in a statement Tuesday. ”Given these volatile circumstances, we are making adjustments to our plans, including removing items that have been at the center of the most significant confrontational behavior.”

Target said that customers knocked down Pride displays at some stores, angrily approached workers and posted threatening videos on social media from inside the stores. Target declined to specify Wednesday which items it was removing but among the ones that garnered the most attention were “tuck friendly” women’s swimsuits that allow trans women who have not had gender-affirming operations to conceal their private parts. Designs by Abprallen, a London-based company that designs and sells occult- and satanic-themed LGBTQ+ clothing and accessories, have also created backlash. The Pride merchandise has been on sale since early May. Pride month is held in June. Target confirmed that it has moved its Pride merchandise from the front of the stores to the back in some Southern stores after confrontations and backlash from shoppers in those areas.

sig230 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 2:25 pm I did buy a six pack and it's okay for steaming sausages. Will buy one more and see if it works with mudpuppies.

sikacz wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 5:43 pm

sig230 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 2:25 pm I did buy a six pack and it's okay for steaming sausages. Will buy one more and see if it works with mudpuppies.

It certainly won’t break the bank. I’ll have to try it on sausages, oven or stovetop?

sikacz wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 12:39 pm

BearPaws wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 12:16 pm
Yes. You're right. The discussion could be more productive.

To the point of the company aiming for inclusion: I'm glad of it. I also recognize that it's a business decision; they want to find a buyer demographic to replace the old white cretins as they pass on to other journeys (attrition being a thing, after all...).

Frankly, I don't know that their attempt at inclusivity got them enough more sales than it lost them, purely because of the demographics of who does/doesn't drink their product. If an article on Faux Nooz is to be believed (and I'm always suspicious of the veracity of anything from that network), their net sales went down, suggesting that the LGBTQ+ community isn't interested enough in their product based on a little bit of marketing. The folks in that demographic tend to be pretty savvy consumers, in my limited experience.

And it seems to me that a LOT of the Bud Light market IS older, Caucasian, imagines itself as rural, and has unfortunate attitudes about inclusion.

Unfortunately not the best product for inclusion. Still I’m tempted to buy a six pack, I would especially do so if it had a transgender supporting theme. I’m not really a beer drinker anymore, but would for solidarity.

Wino wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 1:39 pm While I admire Bud for their stance, I'll never have any in my fridge due to their attempt to destroy Spoetzl Brewery makers of Shiner Beer. Gambrinus Co. CEO Carlos Alvarez bought Shiner in late 80's. Gambrinus distributed and made Corona the best selling foreign beer in USA. From circa 1995 thru 2018 I did a ton of work at Shiner brewery during their initial expansions. Then AB tried to buy Shiner, Alvarez refused. Then AB bought Modelo and took Corona distribution away from Gambinus as punishment and hopes Alvarez would capitulate and sell Shiner. All it did was piss Gambrinus off. Shiner Beer is probably the largest craft beer maker in the USA today. Their expansion has been enormous and Spoetzl is no longer a small hometown brewery. InBev/AB can kiss my ass, but I wish them well in their quest to fight the bigotry of republicans and their ilk.