Buds advertisement featuring Weatherby bolt guns. Reading my mind. Or spying on me.
Love me a bolt gun. Love the ought six as much

Is it surprising they have 2 "06 on the front? Kinda with all the hullabaloo about .308 and 6.5s.
Me. Keeping my '06s, one Swedish and one lever. I'd like a nice new Weatherby though.

The .22-250 is another similar story > my 25-06 often does better.

The one common action type I don’t own - bolt. All my rifles are semi or lever. & if I got one it would be an old Yugo Mauser or SMLE. I almost went with a Ruger American Hunter in .308 but went AR-10 instead. I’m just more familiar with the AR action so I went that way.


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INVICTVS138 wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:14 pm if I got one it would be an old Yugo Mauser or SMLE.

I probably shouldn't tell you about the Columbus Cabelas. They have a stupid number of used Zastava M48As.

wings wrote:

INVICTVS138 wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:14 pm if I got one it would be an old Yugo Mauser or SMLE.

I probably shouldn't tell you about the Columbus Cabelas. They have a stupid number of used Zastava M48As.

How much are they going for? You guys know my unhealthy love for zastavas.
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Oh crap I fergot about my M1903A3 in '06. So that makes three. Seems similar to that M48 with the mauserish action.

There's something about the sound of a mauser action locking into place. You know yet gonna hit whatever it is your aiming at.
Rumor be had that Midway stocks double the amount of "06 grain boolets than .308 and 6.5 combined. Or used to anyways.

Happily M1903 Springfields don’t do it for me. Or the one I saw today at my LGS would probably have followed me home.

wooglin wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:53 pm Happily M1903 Springfields don’t do it for me. Or the one I saw today at my LGS would probably have followed me home.

Was it an A3? How much was it, curious as I was looking at prices and they were running 900ish.

tonguengroover wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:31 pm

wooglin wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:53 pm Happily M1903 Springfields don’t do it for me. Or the one I saw today at my LGS would probably have followed me home.

Was it an A3? How much was it, curious as I was looking at prices and they were running 900ish.

Didn’t look that close. Had a bayonet though.

INVICTVS138 wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:18 pm

wings wrote:

INVICTVS138 wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:14 pm if I got one it would be an old Yugo Mauser or SMLE.

I probably shouldn't tell you about the Columbus Cabelas. They have a stupid number of used Zastava M48As.

How much are they going for? You guys know my unhealthy love for zastavas.

$699.99 before tax. They've still got 17 in stock, and have had for yoinks, so no need to rush over.

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INVICTVS138 wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:18 pm

wings wrote:

INVICTVS138 wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:14 pm if I got one it would be an old Yugo Mauser or SMLE.

I probably shouldn't tell you about the Columbus Cabelas. They have a stupid number of used Zastava M48As.

How much are they going for? You guys know my unhealthy love for zastavas.

$699.99 before tax. They've still got 17 in stock, and have had for yoinks, so no need to rush over.

They are still $399 on RTI - probably lower quality but who knows.


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Nothing wrong with the .30-06. Actually, if I had to choose just one round, the .30-06 would be it. I went into specifically why, BTW, in Episode 65, now that my Web site is back online. This is not to say other cartridges aren't good. They are. It's just that the .30-06's remarkable flexibility gives it a range of tasks that are pretty much unmatched by virtually any other cartridge, while still keeping recoil reasonable. Nothing, it seems, does *everything* that the .30-06 does, as well as it does them all.

So, yeah, I can understand why A.) it remains popular, and B.) why Weatherby's got plenty of rifle options for it. Except for specialty companies like Dakota and Lazzeroni, all the manufacturers do, and with good reason.

I nearly bought a Weatherby Vanguard in 7mm-08 once. Seller didn't get back to me in anything resembling a timely fashion, so I went with a Savage and an aftermarket 7mm-08 barrel. But the Vanguard action is a good one.

And my Zestava 25-06 is just balls out fast. Like the .22-250 but better. Sometimes old school is better.

tonguengroover wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:46 pm Buds advertisement featuring Weatherby bolt guns. Reading my mind. Or spying on me.
Love me a bolt gun. Love the ought six as much

Is it surprising they have 2 "06 on the front? Kinda with all the hullabaloo about .308 and 6.5s.
Me. Keeping my '06s, one Swedish and one lever. I'd like a nice new Weatherby though.

The .22-250 is another similar story > my 25-06 often does better.

If you have a .25-06, I can't think of a single thing on planet Earth a .30-06 will take that a .25-06 won't take. When you pair premium bullets, I'd not hesitate for a New York Minute to take anything on the North American continent with a 25-06. Now that said, if you just want a .30-06, have at it!

A .22-250 will take out an elephant if you have proper shot placement, i. e. you nail it right in the eye, thus hitting the brain. But those shots are hard to make.

I wouldn't hunt a brown/grizzly bear with a .25-06. Remember, if that bear doesn't go down right away and figures out where you are, you might have a major problem on your hands. It's happened before. Something bigger would, therefore, be in order, and .30-cal would be my personal mimimum for such beasts, but preferably .338-cal and up. I might do an elk with a .25-06 if using a premium bullet. Whitetail/blacktail/mule deer, pronghorns, coyotes, no problem. The .25-06 is, of course, excellent varmint medicine, as flat as it shoots.

With a premium bullet, if the only thing I had was a .25-06 and someone wants to take me on a hunt for brown bear...I'm going hunting. I'm not saying its optimal, but sufficient. I have seen .25 cal Barnes X bullets make short work of rather large elk. I have a friend in Alaska who sometimes guides on Kodiak island who killed two with a .257 Roberts, and dozens of Caribou with the same .257; quarterbores can get it done. Again...I'm not going to not hunt just because my rifle is a .25-06.

Just saying from a hunting standpoint, there isn't enough difference in performance on game in the field between .25-06 and .30-06 to even bother with.

Like I said I have three 30-06's and a 25-06 to boot. The only thing the 25 dont have the 30 does is a larger variety of heavier grain boolits. And that being the why it was developed in the first place, for antelope and smaller critters. I'd use it for white tail for sure. Maybe I'll play the lotto an see if I can get a tag.

FrontSight wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:31 pm With a premium bullet, if the only thing I had was a .25-06 and someone wants to take me on a hunt for brown bear...I'm going hunting. I'm not saying its optimal, but sufficient. I have seen .25 cal Barnes X bullets make short work of rather large elk. I have a friend in Alaska who sometimes guides on Kodiak island who killed two with a .257 Roberts, and dozens of Caribou with the same .257; quarterbores can get it done. Again...I'm not going to not hunt just because my rifle is a .25-06.

Just saying from a hunting standpoint, there isn't enough difference in performance on game in the field between .25-06 and .30-06 to even bother with.

On non-predatory species, I would agree. Deer of all species, including elk, tend to run from you. Bears, however, are predatory and will turn on you with those big fangs, claws, and super-strong arms/legs if they get the chance, especially the big browns, grizzlies, and polar bears. That's where I would call for something bigger than a .25-06. But for a caribou, sure.

We could get into the chambering wars, of course (naturally, the 7mm-08 is better than anything else, I don't care WHAT the 6.5 Creedmoor ninnies say! :-D), but what matters is what you're comfortable hunting with. I'm just glad that Weatherby is continuing to chamber for the effective ol' granddad, the .30-06. It remains as popular as it is for very good reason, and it ain't just nostalgia.