Have to say ole Gavin is a very eloquent speaker. If you missed his interview here is a snip. If he just wasn't so anti gun. I bet he runs. I would vote for him cuz who else. He would rip any GOP'r apart.

https://www.msnbc.com/alex-wagner-tonig ... 9408837659

Says he doesn't want to run in 24. He's running. ;-) 28 is a fur piece down the road.

CDFingers

Yup But Gavin makes sense.
Watch all the clips. It was a good interview and is what we need to hear more of.

https://www.msnbc.com/alex-wagner-tonig ... 9412421547

CDFingers wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:09 pm Says he doesn't want to run in 24. He's running. ;-) 28 is a fur piece down the road.

CDFingers

As a long time People's Republik of Kalifornia resident, we know ole' Gavin hates the 2A, and that has talked out of both sides of his mouth quite regularly here in CA, however...

...that was a great interview, and he's likely the only Dem with enough mojo to go at the Nazis as they need going after, because as he said so many stoopid Americans typically just vote for the loudest candidate (which he has the ability to be as he is an excellent speaker!).

I don’t care how eloquent he sounds, he’s still full of bullshit.

“Smooth like Ex-Lax.”

He may be full of bullshit but I don't see anyone else in the dem party or even other thurd party's that speak that well, Bill Clintonish. He he
And hey, he is the only one speaking out LOUD about fighting back against the republicans instead of being all Mr. nice guy.
Fuck being Mr. Nice guy and lets all hold hands and sing Kumbaya. We'll be getting pummeled by the hard right.
All the races are close and they shouldn't be close when your running against F'ing traitors and bigots.

Newsom can suck a fart out of my asshole. Sadly, I align with many of his policies but his whoring and total willingness to throw people under the bus for political expedience is truly right up there with Trump. Fuck that guy. We must demand better.

featureless wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 4:49 pm Newsom can suck a fart out of my asshole. Sadly, I align with many of his policies but his whoring and total willingness to throw people under the bus for political expedience is truly right up there with Trump. Fuck that guy. We must demand better.

Agree and if the party doesn’t get it it the easy way perhaps getting a fascist for a president again will. I want more voices at the table and newscum is not smart enough to know how to get a coalition. Hint asshole, don’t f’n piss off people you should be aligned with. Don’t f’n run on a platform that denies rights to all but the privileged. I’m demanding better.

Ya'll can whine about it but instead lets here some alternative picks? No Well shut up. lol

tonguengroover wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:30 pm Ya'll can whine about it but instead lets here some alternative picks? No Well shut up. lol

Who's whining? I'm bitching loudly.

featureless wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:51 pm

tonguengroover wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:30 pm Ya'll can whine about it but instead lets here some alternative picks? No Well shut up. lol

Who's whining? I'm bitching loudly.

Well do ya wanna trade places? You get to have Ducy for a few more months.

He may be a dickhead, but he's our dickhead. I wish he shot single action revolvers. Then he'd be a contendah.

CDFingers

sikacz wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:20 pm

featureless wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 4:49 pm Newsom can suck a fart out of my asshole. Sadly, I align with many of his policies but his whoring and total willingness to throw people under the bus for political expedience is truly right up there with Trump. Fuck that guy. We must demand better.

Agree and if the party doesn’t get it it the easy way perhaps getting a fascist for a president again will. I want more voices at the table and newscum is not smart enough to know how to get a coalition. Hint asshole, don’t f’n piss off people you should be aligned with. Don’t f’n run on a platform that denies rights to all but the privileged. I’m demanding better.

You guys said it better than I could. Newsom is just another fast talking salesman, Trump is another very good example. Smarmy and slimy politicians are all alike, no matter what their political party.

sikacz wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:58 pm I don’t care how eloquent he sounds, he’s still full of bullshit.

If President Biden gives his 'blessing', expect Newsom vs deSatan..which do you think is more full of bullshit?

And hey, he is the only one speaking out LOUD about fighting back against the republicans instead of being all Mr. nice guy.
Fuck being Mr. Nice guy and lets all hold hands and sing Kumbaya. We'll be getting pummeled by the hard right.

What he said..and for the 'he's FOS' crowd, name 2 or 3 that can go toe to toe with deSatan?..If you are that pissed off with Newsom, you might as well reserve a place on the DC mall for deSatan's inauguration now.

I’ve already mentioned the alternatives and options and in this thread too. Got to learn to read and understand context. I don’t believe in the two party systems, that should be clear and we have multiple choices to choose from every election. Some people just don’t seem to grasp that change doesn’t happen if you limit yourself to the alternatives the two parties want to present. The reason some people here don’t want to embrace a new path or change is simple, you like the two party dominated stranglehold and the policies they push and represent. I don’t.

As I asked. Post a person of a third party you like and think they could go head to head with any dem of repug. I wanna read the party's platform!

C'mon don't be shy. Put up or shut up.

Nothing? Ok I'll start. Here is the Green Party's Platform on gun control as of 2019 which is the newest I could find on their website. And they are the largest third party out there that could even come close to winning anything. They do win some local.
Think they could win against TOT or DeSatan?

Your turn.

https://www.gp.org/on_gun_violence

The Green Party calls for a ban on sales of assault weapons. The Green Party platform calls for “Thoughtful, carefully considered gun control such as is contained in the Brady Bill (1993).” It further calls for eliminating the gun show loophole that permits sale of weapons without background checks. Additionally, the party’s platform seeks an extension of background checks to all private sales of firearms.

TNG cool it. Parties haven't nominated their candidates, 2024 is eons away. Biden isn't saying anything about running because of campaign laws, Newsom is running but denying it.

CNN has a list of Democrats you can chew on.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/20/politics ... den-harris

There won't ever be a viable third party as long as we 1) continue to allow big money in politics and 2) keep voting for the lesser of two evils. I'm about to the point of "fuck it" beyond the local level.

featureless wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:44 am There won't ever be a viable third party as long as we 1) continue to allow big money in politics and 2) keep voting for the lesser of two evils. I'm about to the point of "fuck it" beyond the local level.

Totally true. The top one percent owns one third of US assets esp in the media. Overturn Citizens United. Get dark money out. The best would be government support for campaigns and no donations over like a hundred or something. Fat chance.

CDFingers

There exists a certain segment of the population that tends to really respond to rhetoric and all of the “culture war” stuff. Most of us just see right through it as bombastic posturing and bullshit, but a disturbingly high number of people actually take political bullshit straight to heart and internalize it.

In the current culture war we really only have one side fighting, and the other side is trying to pretend they’re not in a culture war. So the left needs a good, loud voice to articulate their rhetoric. I don’t like political rhetoric, I prefer facts and truth, but the sad reality is there is a sizeable segment of the population who are completely emotional, irrational, impulsive, and non chalant about politics… For those we need someone who articulates bullshit (and non bullshit) well in front of a camera.

I’m about as far from a single issue voter as there is, so I just don’t care about his 2A stance, I’m worried about the Republic as long as the MAGA mindset prevails, I will vote against them. So that means, despite the fact I don’t much care for the Democratic part either, I WILL be voting for Democrats because that’s the best defense against these assholes. I look forward to the day I can go back to voting 3rd party (I like protest votes), and be able to do so knowing I’m not short-changing our republic.

Totally get it, frontsight. I've found there are limits to same side corruption I'm willing to check a box for. Tired af throwing up in my mouth when I vote.

And I'm pretty sure someone like Newsom will do the opposite of calming the MAGA hoard. He needs an enemy against which to preach. And MAGA needs a "socialist" against which to rally cry. I've got no answers beyond support local candidates that seem to give a shit about the people, not the position.

featureless wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:44 am There won't ever be a viable third party as long as we 1) continue to allow big money in politics and 2) keep voting for the lesser of two evils. I'm about to the point of "fuck it" beyond the local level.

Agree. The local level has been my main emphasis for a few years now. National is pretty much toast.

It’s not the only right I worry about, but if someone wants to disarm people in general, I think why. Shamelessly stolen..