Not a fan of black rifles, but this hits my buttons somehow.

https://ruger.com/products/lcCarbine/sp ... 19300.html

Nice rig..I just got a Ruger PC-9..like the caliber and encouraged me to sell my 1022...not a huge fan of 22lr, when plinking, just doesn't 'do it' for me. Plus my 1022 has always had a FTFeed/stovepipe issue. In spite of various attempted 'fixes' found on the interweb.
PC-9 'kinda' heavy but very reliable and very accurate. Plus Glock magazines, plus 'takedown'....

Doubling down on 5.7x28, are they? Interesting. Still all in for magazine / caliber compatibility between pistol and carbine.

Wonder when Marlins are going to show up in my LGS again.

It's like the Hipoint but doesn't need total upgrading hehe

I was wondering if a thread would be started about this release. I saw it the other day and was a little excited. I am a fan of the 5.7 x 28 round. I was not, however, a fan of the FN Five-seveN. The main reason is that I can't stand striker fired pistols. I have owned a few in the past (Glock and Springfield XDM). Every time I pull the trigger, it feels like a little plastic disk should be flying out the front. Currently I own the Ruger 5.7 and love the internal hammer design. I also have a CMMG Banshee. I hear that this Carbine has the same mechanics and takes the same mags and the 5.7 Ruger Pistol. I hope that is true.

FlyGuy wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:01 am I hear that this Carbine has the same mechanics and takes the same mags and the 5.7 Ruger Pistol.

That’s my understanding as well. I don’t think Ruger reinvented the wheel on this one. Just added furniture.

Hit the range after work today, and another shooter breaks out a tiny officer-style 1911 before I've got my muffs on over plugs. Oh, my. That was loud. Ear ringing after the second shot with plugs in loud. I've heard complaints about the 5.7s and loud before, supersonic and all, but this was just my friendly reminder that I don't like high pressure supersonic rounds, and I really don't like them out of short barrels.

So how does 5.7 sound out of a carbine? Is it tolerable? I see Ruger pushing the suppressor compatibility aspect pretty hard.

One of these followed me home yesterday. I'll have a full review and range report after I go shooting Saturday. Early Christmas Present!!!!

FlyGuy wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:10 pm One of these followed me home yesterday. I'll have a full review and range report after I go shooting Saturday. Early Christmas Present!!!!

Congrats! Those look like a great home defence set up.

Yes, congrats FlyGuy ! A nifty holiday present. Next you'll probably be looking at its mate if you don't own one, a Ruger 57.
https://www.usacarry.com/ruger-57-review/

Looking forward to the review. Aesthetically it does not call me, but functionally it's pretty neat. Ruger is quality all around anyway.

CDFingers

Now for the review. I was most impressed with the overall feel of the rifle. Solid to say the least. I like the placement of the controls. I have heard other reviews say that they are awkward, I have larger hands and so everything was indeed reachable and comfortable. I really like that both the pistol and rifle share magazines. Yes, I do in fact own the Ruger 57 pistol. I like to go to the range with a theme in mind. Yesterday was a “5.7” day so I packed up the LC Carbine, the 57 Pistol, as well as a CMMG Banshee in 5.7 x 28. Fun was had. I am a fan of holographic sights (red, green, or gold dots). I purchased a Holosun AEMS CORE for the top of this and I had difficulties trying to zero the thing in. I am thinking of sending it back. Every time I made an adjustment to the windage, the elevation would go wonky or transversely. Any who, I am not here to report on that. Unfortunately, I was so focused on sighting it in, I forgot to take pictures of the targets. The indoor range I go to has a max distance of 20 yards so that’s where I sighted it in for. I am relatively a good shot shooting offhand, but this gun made me look like an expert. My groups of five were mostly touching each other. The rifle itself is medium weight, but the recoil from the 5.7 round is light and was completely mitigated. I was able to get back on target quickly. I say that, but to be honest, I don’t think I ever came off target. I let a few others have their chance to shot it and as I observed, not one showed any sign of “recoil jerk”. Funny side note, switching between the LC and the Banshee, I found myself trying to stuff the mag into the grip of the Banshee. The 5.7 round is a snappy and loud round for a handgun cartridge. I did buy a suppressor for it. If you notice in the picture, I have one on the Banshee as well. Luckily, the store I shop at is the range I shoot at and so they allow for conjugal visits while I wait for the tax stamp. I was switching between the firearms with and without suppressors and wow, the difference was night and day. It is a supersonic round and there will always be the “crack” but shooting the 57 pistol now sounds like shooting a hand cannon, comparatively. After getting home, I did a quick field strip and wipe down. Fairly intuitive procedure with a few differences in the bolt design, but I watched a quick YouTube tutorial to be sure I did everything correctly. I hope this was a good read and I also hope to inspire others to get into this rifle. The cost of the ammo is a little up there, but hopefully with more and more users, the price might come down. Cheers! For the more observant people, I forgot to put the selector of the Banshee back into safe. Yes it is in the pew-pew-pew mode, as I do have a Binary trigger in this. Lots of fun!!!!

To my mind, the grip is the natural place to stuff a magazine. Good review. The times I've heard the 5.7 shot it was loud out a handgun. Appears like fun was had, to be sure.

CDFingers

CDFingers wrote:To my mind, the grip is the natural place to stuff a magazine. Good review. The times I've heard the 5.7 shot it was loud out a handgun. Appears like fun was had, to be sure.

CDFingers

I think it’s a great concept, and more efficient use of space on the rifle. However, owning PCCs with the mag in the grip, I think I do slightly prefer the Mag well out front, as reloads seem more natural to me in that configuration since I was was brought up on the M -16/4 (and before that a Ruger 10/22). At some point I’m going to pick up an “AR type” .45 ACP.


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Luckily, the store I shop at is the range I shoot at and so they allow for conjugal visits while I wait for the tax stamp.

Wait a sec. Did I read this right? The store is at the range and they let you use the suppressor before your given the OK by the feds?

I like the looks of the Ruger pistol and carbine. It almost looks like you could pull apart the carbine and have a pistol. Wouldn't that be cool?

Fun! Thanks for the review!

tonguengroover wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:02 am
Wait a sec. Did I read this right? The store is at the range and they let you use the suppressor before your given the OK by the feds?

It is because you are not actually leaving the building or their sight and of course you have to leave your Driver's License with them. But yeah, I couldn't imagen waiting almost a full year these days without using the thing I spent good money on.

Cool carbine! But for plinking?!? At a buck a round? A bit creamy for my palette. Definitely a rich man’s 10/22!

CDFingers wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:00 am To my mind, the grip is the natural place to stuff a magazine. Good review. The times I've heard the 5.7 shot it was loud out a handgun. Appears like fun was had, to be sure.

CDFingers

Yes, I own a 1911 Rock Island proprietary version of the 5.7: the .22TCM. And yes, it throws an impressive fireball and concussion out the front. Which is stunning because all that noise and light-show does not translate to any significant felt-recoil. A really interesting shooting experience out of an all metal handgun.

Bisbee wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:25 pm Cool carbine! But for plinking?!? At a buck a round? A bit creamy for my palette. Definitely a rich man’s 10/22!

VERY nice rig and compelling design..very 10/22, PC carbine-esque. BUT yup, pricey to shoot. And at least in a rifle, no real advantage over a much less expensive to buy and shoot, 223/556. BUT, yup, really like the Ruger designs. I have a PC-9 TakeDown.

Be interesting if anybody made a smaller 5.7 for carry. Yes, you could carry the big ones from Ruger and FN but they are still 'big'.

First off, I understand no one is clamoring for a 5.7 pistol to be made in a compact factor. Yet, I think it’s an interesting idea so hear me out. Now, imagine having a 5.7 pistol in a G19 size form factor. Are you telling me you wouldn’t potentially rock one? I would. That would be dope ass hell…a 5.7 pistol in a G19 form factor sign me up.

Or a thinner Glock 43x size..

https://theloadoutblog.com/2021/03/10/w ... rm-factor/

How about the LCR? 5.7 already loses a lot of velocity going to a full size pistol - it's a really long one, too. In some ways the round reminds me of .30 Carbine - a carbine round that can still work in a long handgun if you don't mind having a flash-bang grenade go off at the end of your muzzle. Then again, some genius thought .327 Magnum would be a good idea in snubbies, and that has almost the same ballistics as .30 Carbine. LCP might be hilarious.

I can't get around the magwell on the 9mm carbines, so I think using the handgun style magazine in the grip is good thinking. Can't help but think that 5.7x28 is just a step up from .22 Magnum in centerfire - but that line of thinking leads to absurd NAA and Keltec creations.

So I read the Ruger product description, and I"m still wondering: what does "LC" stand for?

Elmo wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 9:22 pm So I read the Ruger product description, and I"m still wondering: what does "LC" stand for?

Because PC was already used?

Here's what I found after a lengthy search because it is not defined on rugers website.

The “LC” in LC Carbine stands for Light and Compact, and the company ain’t just whistling Dixie on either account;

https://www.americanrifleman.org/conten ... he-5-7x28/

Elmo wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 9:22 pm So I read the Ruger product description, and I"m still wondering: what does "LC" stand for?

"Little Crappy"...pistol, revolver..LCP, LCR....