First off - if you have Hi-point Carbines or experienced with this fine, made right here in Ohio Carbine post it here!
Im not here to argue a Hi-point carbine is as good as a a Ruger PCC or AR .45 Carbine. What it is is 1/2 the price of the next options ….
For some odd reason, I went down the 4595 Hi-point Carbine rabbit-hole in 2015; and followed up with a 995 in 2018. Since it’s half the price of a quality Ruger one, but by not buy 2 ?!? Remember: 2018 were the days of $6 boxes of 9mm… so it was a great way to shoot, and I shot a lot of 9mm In 2018, 2019. Probably at least 2-3k rounds each of those years. Cases of 9mm Les than $150! So much,that I hardly did any reloading those years.
I’ve loaded .45 ACP for a number of years, so I wanted a PCC to accompany this cartridge. I used to have a few more .45 ACPs as it was my standard “semi-auto” pistol caliber. The 4595 carbine - while an ugly creation of the 1994 “Crime bill” semi-auto magazine restrictions, is fun and accurate to shoot.
Both of mine have been reliable and fun. I do Shoot the .45 ACP one more often as inexpensive factory 9mm is rare these days.
I’m buying a few things to make my 4595 carbine more presentable. I found a cool site jsarmsco.comwith after market options and have an inexpensive barrel shroud on the way
… pics to follow.
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2I'm interested.
Kind of like buying a Keltec Sub2K and needing to upgrade everything. hehehe
I have a friend who is in love with Hi-Point anything.
Is that barrel come threaded?
Kind of like buying a Keltec Sub2K and needing to upgrade everything. hehehe
I have a friend who is in love with Hi-Point anything.
Is that barrel come threaded?
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3tonguengroover wrote:I'm interested.
Kind of like buying a Keltec Sub2K and needing to upgrade everything. hehehe
I have a friend who is in love with Hi-Point anything.
Is that barrel come threaded?
No sir - the front sight assembly and “flash suppressor are friction clamped on -lol. This is what it looks like.tonguengroover wrote:I'm interested.
Kind of like buying a Keltec Sub2K and needing to upgrade everything. hehehe
I have a friend who is in love with Hi-Point anything.
Is that barrel come threaded?
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4
I have a red-dot on the 4595, I’ve shot it out to 75 yards accurately. .45 ACP drops off a lot after that, so some sort of gradients optic would be better for further distances.
The stock sights are pretty decent —- but no real way to “co-witness” with a red-dot line you would with an AR - at rail is too high & the front post is too low.
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The stock sights are pretty decent —- but no real way to “co-witness” with a red-dot line you would with an AR - at rail is too high & the front post is too low.
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5I've watched all the "torture tests" and those inexpensive Hi-Point pistol work, I've heard good things about the carbine. They aren't Berettas, SIGs, S&Ws or Rugers, but they work. For people who need protection and have limited income, they fill that niche market. They are sold in CA so they passed all of the state safety checks.
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6I have held a few and found them respectable. Especially if you like the look and feel of Kel-tec's. My only complaint and what kept me from the purchase is the trigger. I never felt anything like it. No words, just BAD. However, the Beretta Cx4 Storm is no prize either and I own one.
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7Apparently there’s a trigger kit from the same place I’m getting my $27 shroud … I’m not sure that they are worth dumping a ton of money into. I agree the trigger is mush city. For anyone who could afford it - even a stockFlyGuy wrote:I have held a few and found them respectable. Especially if you like the look and feel of Kel-tec's. My only complaint and what kept me from the purchase is the trigger. I never felt anything like it. No words, just BAD. However, the Beretta Cx4 Storm is no prize either and I own one.
AR trigger is night and day better.
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8I would be paranoid about that flash suppressor as well. I also worry about any thread protectors coming loose.
Just looked at prices on Sub2K 's - shocked I tell ya. I got my Gen 2 for $370 in August 2017, now running 500 to 800 bucks. And the Ruger carbine running the same.
So yeah, those are a deal.
Just looked at prices on Sub2K 's - shocked I tell ya. I got my Gen 2 for $370 in August 2017, now running 500 to 800 bucks. And the Ruger carbine running the same.
So yeah, those are a deal.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,”
Lipstick on a pig - Hi-point Carbine Thread.
9Except the fit and finish and functionality on a Ruger PCC is worth the money. The hi-point has every single production corner cut you can imagine. The extractor is is basically two heavy duty pieces of wire welded together.tonguengroover wrote:I would be paranoid about that flash suppressor as well. I also worry about any thread protectors coming loose.
Just looked at prices on Sub2K 's - shocked I tell ya. I got my Gen 2 for $370 in August 2017, now running 500 to 800 bucks. And the Ruger carbine running the same.
So yeah, those are a deal.
However, I still think they are reliable for the money. The manual of arms and magazine design is atrocious. The company has excellent customer service and I have had them send me out parts (I bought my 4595 with no front sight) at no charge.
Kel-tec to me closer to Ruger than Hi-point. But the difference is Kel-Tec continues to innovate and release new product innovations. Hi-point has basically made the same products since the 1990s. Save money by not having a design team.
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10I saw Vance had the .45 Hi-point in stock - in pink digital camo. Now that, that made the lipstick on a pig simile pop.
I hate to say it, but I think it's a distinct improvement and I actually kind of like it. Not enough to buy one, but I appreciate the attitude.
I hate to say it, but I think it's a distinct improvement and I actually kind of like it. Not enough to buy one, but I appreciate the attitude.
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11A picture of my High Point 9mm carbine.
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12I see you went with the Hi Tower kit. Looks awesome dude.
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13That really exceeds the intent of this thread!tonguengroover wrote:I see you went with the Hi Tower kit. Looks awesome dude.
I’ve looked at those kits in the past … but they are the same cost $$$ as the base carbine. I’m may just have to do it for some HALO style weaponry. So cool.
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14If you had to pull it out from under your trench coat it would shock any potential attacker so much it may give you a few second advantage.wings wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:38 pm I saw Vance had the .45 Hi-point in stock - in pink digital camo. Now that, that made the lipstick on a pig simile pop.
I hate to say it, but I think it's a distinct improvement and I actually kind of like it. Not enough to buy one, but I appreciate the attitude.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,”
Lipstick on a pig - Hi-point Carbine Thread.
15I received my new barrel shroud in the mail - much improved appearance, for a nominal part cost. The fit and finish of the shroud far exceeds the rest of it lol.
It did result in me having to do a tear down of the carbine to get the under barrel rail off.
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It did result in me having to do a tear down of the carbine to get the under barrel rail off.
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16I am relatively certain that it would not be legal to CCW this thing. But why would you? This was meant for open carry.tonguengroover wrote:If you had to pull it out from under your trench coat it would shock any potential attacker so much it may give you a few second advantage.wings wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:38 pm I saw Vance had the .45 Hi-point in stock - in pink digital camo. Now that, that made the lipstick on a pig simile pop.
I hate to say it, but I think it's a distinct improvement and I actually kind of like it. Not enough to buy one, but I appreciate the attitude.
I wonder if that Hi Tower kit comes in this pattern?
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17This is pretty impressive, although I've never really understood the appeal of the bullpup style. Crazy that you can modify a cheap hipoint to this degree though! Probably makes running those hi-cap mags a little more ergonomic?
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18Not sure why but this thread makes me want to dress like Planet of the Apes and ride a horse.
I don't like to think of my self as an artist so much as someone who stares at empty spaces and imagines s--t.
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19Just stumbled upon this -
https://youtu.be/VneJr-lOrdc
https://thingmeister.com/products/1911 ... 45acp-only
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https://youtu.be/VneJr-lOrdc
https://thingmeister.com/products/1911 ... 45acp-only
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20Decisions decisions eh?DOES NOT WORK WITH HIGHTOWER BULLPUP.
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21Where'd that stock come from? I've always found the bullpup format intriguing. Getting one of these before my state passes a stupid ban on them might be a good idea.
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22From here - https://www.hightowerarmory.com/products
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23Thanks!tonguengroover wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:20 am From here - https://www.hightowerarmory.com/products
A pity only the 9 mm version comes in fun colors. Getting a Hi Point in .40 would give me a chance to use up all those bullets left over after I got out of 10 mm, but with better availability of once-fired brass. I like the Arctic Gray.
A 10 mm would really shine with that longer barrel. Must resist...must resist...
Edit: Oh, wait, there is a pulldown for various calibers. That's weird: They put the different calibers in black on their own pages, but not the colored ones?
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24Yeah, it’s a tough call. The factory, Hi-point stock is clunky, heavy, and muzzle heavy. The molded rails are a bit oversized & junky compared to any other pic rails.tonguengroover wrote:Decisions decisions eh?DOES NOT WORK WITH HIGHTOWER BULLPUP.
The ability to have magazine interchangeability with a sidearm I have is also quite appealing, but not that critical for most of my applications. I already have 3 of the hi-point proprietary mags. Having less types
Of ammo to haul on a range trip is the main simplification point for me.
If I can find a place to thread the muzzle, I’ll probably lean towards the bull-pup stock conversion to shorten the OAL, when I put my can on.
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25It's so cheap, you can probably afford to screw up trying to do both.