Are these all the same? Is there any recommendations?

This is my recommendation:

https://theliberalgunclub.com/product/a ... izing-wax/

Truth be told, I have gone to carbide dies, so I don't use lube any more. Maybe I should give away my non carbide ones.

CDFingers

Hiker wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:00 am This is my recommendation:

https://theliberalgunclub.com/product/a ... izing-wax/

So you just put a bit on your fingers and rub around the neck or the whole case?

When carbide isn't an option, there are two case lubes I use. If I'm reloading something in volume such as .30 Carbine on a progressive press, then I put the cases in a block and spray them with Hornady One Shot. If I'm loading a lower volume on a single stage, I use Mink Oil that I apply with my fingers one case at a time as I'm sizing.

FrontSight wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:10 am When carbide isn't an option, there are two case lubes I use. If I'm reloading something in volume such as .30 Carbine on a progressive press, then I put the cases in a block and spray them with Hornady One Shot. If I'm loading a lower volume on a single stage, I use Mink Oil that I apply with my fingers one case at a time as I'm sizing.

The whole case or just the neck area? For spray does it matter if it gets inside the case?

Starting with the hand application of mink oil. I swipe a finger on the mink oil, then roll my finger around the bottom 2/3 of the case. About every 3-4 cases, I will put a very thin layer at the case mouth, making sure not to get any on the bottom 2/3 of the neck area of a rifle case. If you get too much buildup in the die from neck lubing, the lube will eventually work its way down the neck to the shoulder and give you hydraulic dents on the shoulder. What you’re looking for is the thinnest layer you can put on the case. Often just one light swipe with the finger across the mink oil is sufficient lube to lubricate 2-4 cases if you get it on thin enough.

One Shot – I put 50 cases into a block, then I hold the can of spray about 1 foot above at a 45 degree angle and give it a quick spray. You want a little on the case mouth, and there’s no problems at all if a little makes its way inside the case. One shot is probably the best case lube I have ever worked with. It goes on very thin, covers well, works as a lube quite well, and it dries quickly so you hardly even get any residue on your fingers. My only objection is that you kinda need a dedicated loading block for spraying as it really mucks up a loading block. That’s about the only negative I have; great stuff.

Thank you. I’ll try to digest the info.

I have some rifles I neck size for and don't have carbide dies. That's when I use my finger with some RCBS stuff in a bottle and just hit the neck. But I only make 20 at a time for those.

CDFingers

I try to get all carbide dies. I have a 5.56 die that is not. I just use plain old Lee
Case lube and twirl the case necks in a tiny bit of it. One of the reasons I don’t load 5.56 much is I don’t like messing with it. I try and stock up on factory 5.56 when it’s cheap. It’s getting to the point where I probably need to load a few batches. I don’t think I’ve loaded 5.56 in 8 years or so.

[mention]FrontSight [/mention] - thanks for the tip about “one shot” that sounds more my speed. I’ll order a can then do a batch of 5.56.


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INVICTVS138 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:45 am I try to get all carbide dies. I have a 5.56 die that is not. I just use plain old Lee
Case lube and twirl the case necks in a tiny bit of it. One of the reasons I don’t load 5.56 much is I don’t like messing with it. I try and stock up on factory 5.56 when it’s cheap. It’s getting to the point where I probably need to load a few batches. I don’t think I’ve loaded 5.56 in 8 years or so.

[mention]FrontSight [/mention] - thanks for the tip about “one shot” that sounds more my speed. I’ll order a can then do a batch of 5.56.


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Most of my dies are not carbide. I’ll need to figure out this lube business. “One shot” seems like a good product to have. How do you clean it off, overspray happens?

Personally, I don't like the RCBS lube or One Shot very much... I find them to be messy and hard to control... but YMMV.
For 5.56 I use plain ol' coconut oil on the case below the shoulder (just a quick spin in oily fingers), and i spin the case mouth in a tiny bit of Lee sizing lube. I do this about every 3 cases, and everything runs smoothly using basic Lee dies. The coconut oil is very slippery but cleans up easily with a rag soaked in rubbing alcohol, or comes off in a tumbling solution. Usually I just take my time and use a rag, taking the opportunity to inspect each case. Coconut oil is stupid cheap and never goes bad. I keep a little "ranch dressing" cup of it on the bench and I've probably used less than one of those cups doing a thousand rounds.
I've also tried using Ballistol... I wipe my finger around the threads of the cap, and that's enough to lube like 10 rounds (so 30, using the "lube every third" procedure.) This works well but Ballistol is a little harder to clean off the cases. The upside is that Ballistol is good for your chamber! Still I prefer Coconut oil.
One last thing... make sure you also either tumble used cases or wipe them down well before resizing... even a little grime will make the case more likely to stick (even with lube) and eventually it will wear your die down.
Crow

I started with the RCBS gel & pad & brush. I've tried other things, but always went back to the RCBS stuff.
Obviously, a number of different methods can work.

All of my handgun dies are of the carbide variety. With that said, it does make reloading the larger cases (.44 Spl/Mag, .45 Colt) easier if I spray them with a bit of Hornady One-Shot. It's convenient, quick, and dries fast.

If doing so with rifle cases, then I'd hit 'em from at least two sides with One-Shot at 180-degree angles, and preferably three shots with 120 degree rotations. If doing it the old-fashioned way, then Lyman and Lee case lube are both good. As others have said, you don't need much! It's like heatsink compound when mounting your heatsink on your microchip; you want just a little bit, just enough to fill the microscopic pits and help heat distribution. It's similar with case lube, whether you're doing full-length sizing or neck-sizing.