Trump demands to be 'declared the winner' of 2020 race — or get a do-over election

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Former President Donald Trump is pushing a new conspiracy theory while demanding to be either reinstated as president or get a do-over election.

The United States Constitution does not allow for either option, but facts have never seemed to matter when it comes to Trump pushing his "Big Lie" of election fraud.

Trump remains fixated on Arizona, which he lost to Joe Biden, but has changed his focus within the state. The controversial Cyber Ninjas "audit" of Maricopa County, the state's most populous county that includes Phoenix, failed to prove Trump's conspiracy theories of election fraud.

Now Trump has shifted his focus to Pima County, Arizona's second most populous which includes the county seat of Tuscon.

"A new analysis of mail-in ballots in Pima County, Arizona means the election was Rigged and Stolen from the Republican Party in 2020, and in particular, its Presidential Candidate. This analysis, derived from publicly available election data, shows staggering anomalies and fictitious votes in Pima County's mail-in returns, making it clear they stuffed the ballot box (in some precincts with more ballots than were ever sent!)," Trump claimed, even though there is no evidence that ballot boxes were stuffed.

Trump included charts from disgraced conspiracy theorist Shiva Ayyadurai, who was hired for the Maricopa audit even though he didn't understand the process.

"The Department of Justice has had this information since the November 2020 Election, and has done nothing about it. The Pima County GOP should start a canvass of Republican voters, in order to identify and remove the obvious fictitious voters from the system," Trump wrote.

"Either a new Election should immediately take place or the past Election should be decertified and the Republican candidate declared the winner," Trump said.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-pima-ari ... cy-theory/

Trump is proving Einstein definition of insanity every time he opens his yap. Unfortunately there are those, not already in institutions for the mentally ill, that will believe him and follow him while wanting to do harm to others not following his demands.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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"Either a new Election should immediately take place or the past Election should be decertified and the Republican candidate declared the winner," Trump said.
What's scary are the number of congress critters who nod and agree with this lunacy, even tho they know it's lunacy. To disagree is to piss off the mango mussolini, which hurts their chance of reelection..

I'd like to think trump or his 'crew' aren't this dumb but..gee, they ARE this dumb..letting trump the traitor rant like this.

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F4FEver wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:37 am
"Either a new Election should immediately take place or the past Election should be decertified and the Republican candidate declared the winner," Trump said.
What's scary are the number of congress critters who nod and agree with this lunacy, even tho they know it's lunacy. To disagree is to piss off the mango mussolini, which hurts their chance of reelection..

I'd like to think trump or his 'crew' aren't this dumb but..gee, they ARE this dumb..letting trump the traitor rant like this.
Our democracy and republic are in serious trouble. Corporations, citizens united, unfettered propaganda, ill educated electorate and unaddressed social issues have led us to this point. Recovery will not be easy, but it required those most responsible be held accountable and punished. If we don’t punish trump and the congressmen and senators that supported him and the the insurrectionists then this disaster will continue to slide downhill. We as a country are at a decision point, do we go toward a better democracy of the people or do we succumb to authoritarianism and rule by elites. Considering the technology available to those with power and money, escaping to secluded places and moving on is no longer an option as it was in our past. This has to be faced and defeated starting with trump. There should be no doubt that he should never hold office and his supporters in the congress, senate and any elected office should should be stripped of their right to vote and hold office. There is a precedent for this following the civil war, traitors and those who conspired against the constitution and republic should not skate and be allowed to perpetuate false information. Corporate media should be held responsible for its complicity as well.
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sikacz wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:43 am
F4FEver wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:37 am
"Either a new Election should immediately take place or the past Election should be decertified and the Republican candidate declared the winner," Trump said.
What's scary are the number of congress critters who nod and agree with this lunacy, even tho they know it's lunacy. To disagree is to piss off the mango mussolini, which hurts their chance of reelection..

I'd like to think trump or his 'crew' aren't this dumb but..gee, they ARE this dumb..letting trump the traitor rant like this.
Our democracy and republic are in serious trouble. Corporations, citizens united, unfettered propaganda, ill educated electorate and unaddressed social issues have led us to this point. Recovery will not be easy, but it required those most responsible be held accountable and punished. If we don’t punish trump and the congressmen and senators that supported him and the the insurrectionists then this disaster will continue to slide downhill. We as a country are at a decision point, do we go toward a better democracy of the people or do we succumb to authoritarianism and rule by elites. Considering the technology available to those with power and money, escaping to secluded places and moving on is no longer an option as it was in our past. This has to be faced and defeated starting with trump. There should be no doubt that he should never hold office and his supporters in the congress, senate and any elected office should should be stripped of their right to vote and hold office. There is a precedent for this following the civil war, traitors and those who conspired against the constitution and republic should not skate and be allowed to perpetuate false information. Corporate media should be held responsible for its complicity as well.
I certainly agree..where is the DOJ on this? 2022 is going to be very telling. And then 2024..IF the GOPathetic sit these out and lose even more seats to the Dems..what will criminals like trump and bannon do? 'bannon said something about 20,000 'shock troops'.

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Yeah, just throw away the votes of 7 million Americans because of a 75 year old's toddler temper tantrum.
Even the doddering, partially senile Chuck Grassley, who's running for ANOTHER 6 year term has basically stated the obvious that it would be "foolish" for any GQP candidate to piss off the (violent) Trump thralls. Even politically suicidal.
"The upper class: keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes. The middle class: pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor are there...just to scare the shit out of the middle class."--George Carlin

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tonguengroover wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:39 am Imagine being on his secret service detail and having to protect his slimy ass and having to listen to his drivel all day and night.

How do they do it? Could you do it?
No. I would request a different assignment, and, if I did not get it, would resign and find another line of work.
I realize that the Secret Service is there to protect the OFFICE and the person who holds it. But if that person is clearly a traitor, who clearly is trying to tear down the Constitution that even Secret Service agents are sworn and pledged to protect and defend, I cannot understand how they can justify it.

Yes, Upton Sinclair wrote “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
But there has to be a limit where you simply MUST walk away or you are endorsing/enabling a destroyer.
"The upper class: keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes. The middle class: pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor are there...just to scare the shit out of the middle class."--George Carlin

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