Conservative Bands?

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The comedy thread got me thinking. Are there any good ROCK bands that spew for conservatives!

Ted Nuggent hate his politics but double live gonzo is a great album.

Country swill but I kind of think they just pander to sell albums.

Post up any you can think of.
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Paladin wrote:The comedy thread got me thinking. Are there any good ROCK bands that spew for conservatives!

Ted Nuggent hate his politics but double live gonzo is a great album.

Country swill but I kind of think they just pander to sell albums.

Post up any you can think of.
You meant mainstream rock bands/artists, right? Cause there's already a slew of xtian rock bands/artists out there.

Is Stryper still around?

And Dave Mustaine is a bong-again. I forgive him though.

Xela
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Paladin wrote:Main stream.
It seems to me that Metallica turned right soon after, or around the time, the death of Cliff Burton. Or perhaps it was because of the first Gulf War. I noticed it with their release of black album.

Is it just me? Pro'bly.

Xela
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I seem to remember Alice Cooper expressing some real conservative views, but he also claimed something to the effect that he's just an entertainer so he wasn't about to tell people what to think (I'll see if I can dig up that interview).

Alice Cooper is also a severe born-again Christian, so I don't know if that goes hand in hand with his conservative views or if he always felt that way. Either way, I've always liked Alice Cooper.
I don't like to think of my self as an artist so much as someone who stares at empty spaces and imagines s--t.

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Kid rock? But I think pandering.
An intellectual is someone that can change their mind after being given enough evidence.

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Can't tell Iron Maiden as a whole, but I know Bruce Dickinson has been pretty active in British conservative politics.

The Maiden is my all time favorite band.

Xela
"We are all born mad. Some remain so." Waiting for Godot

"...as soon as there is language, generality has entered the scene..." Derrida

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Sadly, one of my fave bands, Stuck Mojo, went extremely Right-Wing around 2002. As did M.O.D., who were one of my favorite damn surf punk bands back in the 1980's/90's. Their newest album has a couple of funny songs, but it's mostly just jingoist bullshit.

I'd argue that Justin Beiber is an excellent example of the uberkinder music the right wing likes.
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I remember hearing that Drowning Pool thought it was cool that their music was being used for torture.

I also listen to a lot of alt-rock/indie-rock that pretty much means everything I listen to is out of the mainstream. I assume most of them lean liberal but I could be wrong.
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Alice Cooper is a HUGE icon in Phoenix, but not for political reasons. He just pretty much owns a third of the city with as many investments he has in land and businesses (and not to mention the MLB Diamondbacks). Needless to say, he's one wealthy bugger without flaunting it. He stays out of the political arena as hard as he can it seems, which is respectable. Besides, if he were a Conservative, I imagine he'd be pretty moderate and a thinking Conservative. Besides, I like his music and his local radio show.

Kid Rock is a poster boy for the Tea-Bagger movement, no doubt.

Alot of Metal these days seems to be growing towards the Right, and I've even caught the local Metal/Hard Rock station (97.9 KUPD) DJ's ranting in a very conservative-way about local goings on. It's a bit disturbing, but I mainly listen to Punk, Indie and AltRock which is by nature more Left leaning. I don't listen to the type of music due to political leanings... I just think they're better musicians and I enjoy the sound more.

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The mention of Metallica made me think back to when the RIAA was going ape-shit with the lawsuits against people that were downloading music. There was a very clear line drawn among the artists too.....those that stood with the RIAA and those that didn't. Metallica was one of the RIAA's biggest cheerleaders during that time, up to and including testifying before Congress. In the meantime you have artists like Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins saying "you know what? Download my music. Please. Know why? Because I don't make shit off of record sales. You know where I make money....concerts. And we give our fans EVERYTHING we've got at our shows. So come support us there. But what you do until a show? Couldn't care less."

That to me was pretty telling....you had the corporate bands versus the guys that were still doing it for the fans. My guess is that if you compiled a list of the bands that truly stood with the RIAA during that time you'd have a list of your most conservative artists.

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MetalSlugIV wrote:
GlockLobster wrote:The Ramones.
FUCK! I like them... god damnit... I had to google and confirm it... fuck... :no:
Still won't stop listening to them though...
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I think it was mostly Johnny and Dee-Dee to considered themselves patriots and stand/stood (they're both dead) by the tough guy, expansionists view of American political power in the 50's and 60's. Joey was more soft spoken, very reserved.
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photomonkey wrote:The mention of Metallica made me think back to when the RIAA was going ape-shit with the lawsuits against people that were downloading music. There was a very clear line drawn among the artists too.....those that stood with the RIAA and those that didn't. Metallica was one of the RIAA's biggest cheerleaders during that time, up to and including testifying before Congress. In the meantime you have artists like Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins saying "you know what? Download my music. Please. Know why? Because I don't make shit off of record sales. You know where I make money....concerts. And we give our fans EVERYTHING we've got at our shows. So come support us there. But what you do until a show? Couldn't care less."

That to me was pretty telling....you had the corporate bands versus the guys that were still doing it for the fans. My guess is that if you compiled a list of the bands that truly stood with the RIAA during that time you'd have a list of your most conservative artists.

This I disagree with stealing is stealing. You create a product you are allowed to sell it. Sorry record companies suck but that is the nature of the beast.
An intellectual is someone that can change their mind after being given enough evidence.

“ I nearly murdered somebody, and it made me realise that you can't face violence with violence. It doesn't work. ”

—Joe Strummer

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GlockLobster wrote:The Ramones.
That sucks and I would never have guessed. But hey, according to my research, it was Johnny who was the conservative and who the fuck is he? It's all about Joey, the liberal, right?
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Paladin wrote:
photomonkey wrote:The mention of Metallica made me think back to when the RIAA was going ape-shit with the lawsuits against people that were downloading music. There was a very clear line drawn among the artists too.....those that stood with the RIAA and those that didn't. Metallica was one of the RIAA's biggest cheerleaders during that time, up to and including testifying before Congress. In the meantime you have artists like Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins saying "you know what? Download my music. Please. Know why? Because I don't make shit off of record sales. You know where I make money....concerts. And we give our fans EVERYTHING we've got at our shows. So come support us there. But what you do until a show? Couldn't care less."

That to me was pretty telling....you had the corporate bands versus the guys that were still doing it for the fans. My guess is that if you compiled a list of the bands that truly stood with the RIAA during that time you'd have a list of your most conservative artists.

This I disagree with stealing is stealing. You create a product you are allowed to sell it. Sorry record companies suck but that is the nature of the beast.
Never said I agreed with the stance. Hell, as a photographer I completely understand the trials and tribulations of trying to put your work out online and not have it wind up on someone's wall (or in this case on their iPod). But, as a purely "corporate music" vs. "for the love of the art" type thing I still think it would make an interesting basis of comparison.

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Jeez, you guys do know how Ted Nugent got out of the draft don't you? Ted grew up around Deeetroit and we all know the story, that's why he moved to Alabama. Here sure didn't move there to bow hunt those crappy little deer they have.

There is an outrageous story of how he did it, that is being poo-pooed (I shuttered typing that) and made to look as though he was lying to some magazine for his own amusement. That's bullshit, I heard the story the first time in 1968, and believe me the Nuge was a draft resister and the story is true, I know folks that toked with him at the time.
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Antiquus wrote:Jeez, you guys do know how Ted Nugent got out of the draft don't you? Ted grew up around Deeetroit and we all know the story, that's why he moved to Alabama. Here sure didn't move there to bow hunt those crappy little deer they have.

There is an outrageous story of how he did it, that is being poo-pooed (I shuttered typing that) and made to look as though he was lying to some magazine for his own amusement. That's bullshit, I heard the story the first time in 1968, and believe me the Nuge was a draft resister and the story is true, I know folks that toked with him at the time.
Yeah, I remember a post on here some time ago talked about that and had this link:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a1_1250550290

Its worth a quick read.

Also, one of our own partied with Ted back in the day.


http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/phpBB3 ... 583#p19583
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Paladin wrote:
photomonkey wrote:The mention of Metallica made me think back to when the RIAA was going ape-shit with the lawsuits against people that were downloading music. There was a very clear line drawn among the artists too.....those that stood with the RIAA and those that didn't. Metallica was one of the RIAA's biggest cheerleaders during that time, up to and including testifying before Congress. In the meantime you have artists like Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins saying "you know what? Download my music. Please. Know why? Because I don't make shit off of record sales. You know where I make money....concerts. And we give our fans EVERYTHING we've got at our shows. So come support us there. But what you do until a show? Couldn't care less."

That to me was pretty telling....you had the corporate bands versus the guys that were still doing it for the fans. My guess is that if you compiled a list of the bands that truly stood with the RIAA during that time you'd have a list of your most conservative artists.

This I disagree with stealing is stealing. You create a product you are allowed to sell it. Sorry record companies suck but that is the nature of the beast.
There is another business model. The tour.

Witness the Grateful Dead's example of giving a healthy hearty middle finger to the greedy plastic record company ceo who doesn't contribute anything to the band's success. And the Dead got paid, even though they set up recording areas where the fans could set up devices to capture the entire concert.

The current record industry has much more in common with wall street brokerages and the boards of directors of the big banks than it does with anything actually focused on music. They exist not to pay artists, nor to feed and water good music into bloom, they exist to move product and take profits, paying themselves first just like all the rest of the gordon gecko idolaters and leaving the people who actually produce the product to take the scraps left over after all the inflated fees and charges and percentage cuts that go elsewhere. Last I looked, the majority of the durable music names managed to wise up and keep the rights to their own songs through use of their own incorporated labels while managing the production and distro to keep the industry from sucking the profits away before they got back to the artist.

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GlockLobster wrote:The Ramones.
This I knew and really it's not that surprising, I used to roady for a couple of B circuit bands I knew when I was in college, not to mention also attending I have no idea how many concerts, and living the, uh … full and colorful lifestyle I did at that time, I ended up partying with a lot of bands as well, I found that a lot of traditional punk, thrash and metal bands members tended toward libertarianism, where as the progressive and alternative bands members tended to be more liberal. I don't think I'd really label any of them as specifically Republican though.
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