ArmedAznF wrote:mvelimir wrote:
You're forgetting one thing - Beck, Limpbaugh and others are saying what they saying because they get huuuuuuge amounts of money for that. There is not one iota of patriotism or altruism motivating these people, just money. So, Beck is not a dope when it comes to figuring out what gets his bank account fat and he doesn't care if what he says or does as long as that is filling that account with cash.
Oh, believe me, I am not forgetting it at all. These guys (and Michael Savage) are not thinkers, they're entertainers and shills. Not that I have anything against a radio host or anyone else making mad loot. But these guys are doing it through vile pandering, and that's pretty pathetic. Of course, I'm all for letting them say anything they want.
Many of the folks here on LGC forum might remember some of my rants about a year ago regarding the rhetoric coming from the right and comparing it to the shit we had in former Yugoslavia, prior to it's breakdown. For the most part, what right wing politicians and media is using in their rhetoric is word-for-word same absolute shit that was shoveled, mostly by Serbs (Croatians were not much better at it either, they just started it later). So, in my opinion one of the great dangers we have is the abuse of the 1st Amendment. I'm OK with them saying anything they want, I'm not OK that they are not suffering any consequences and they also making tons of money from all that crap.
My "High Ground" is basically what is enabling me to sleep at night, knowing that I fought for what was right.
On some issues, I have some libertarians tendencies, but I'm too old and seen too much to be naive and think that human race can get to that point within this century, let alone decade. I often say if there was an outbreak of smallpox in the USA, as it happened in Yugoslavia in 1972 - no matter who's in White House (D or R), this nation will be decimated. By the time they will figure out if it is constitutional and is it a matter of federal government or states, we will be all fucked a big time. And if the government was run by libertarians (an oxymoron), I'm afraid US population number will drop down to level of Canada. In Yugoslavia, there was no fuckin' around. Marshal law was declared and Tito and League of Communists of Yugoslavia ordered entire nation to be immediately vaccinated and all those exposed to the virus quarantined. The whole thing was contained within two months. 18 million people were vaccinated, 175 exposed to virus, 35 died from it.
If it was not handled like that the outbreak could have spread through Europe and we will be talking about much larger casualties.
What I'm trying to say here is we need smaller government, but also far more efficient and engaged. From what I'm seeing now, neither Tea Party, nor Republicans or Democrats have those traits nor they are interested in heading in that direction. We need here true multi-party systems giving proportional amounts of seats in government to the % of votes obtained in the elections, as well as getting rid of electoral votes (that is a thing of the past that in today's day of modern communications is totally bogus, borderline counterproductive) if we were to start moving in right direction.
End rant! Open beer!
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would be in charge and handling world afairs. Africa's a country! 
You make many points that I agree with but that one aint one of them. And I'm not saying I love the guy, I don't. But independants get sued out every time and we have to make a choice. Sucks ehh.
