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I'm not sure if that is the best thing ever or one of the signs of the apocalypse. Maybe both.

Blasphemy!

Scotch in a can, Pffft!

Sacrilegious, the "water of life" should only be sold in glass.

Aluminium cans

the comedian wrote:All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses, his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.
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What do you do when the label comes off, and the plastics all melted and the chrome is too soft..... Frank Zappa Who are the Brain Police

Scotch is badly overrated. The blended stuff tastes like Mr. Clean. The best Scotch I ever had, I picked out of a blind tasting of various single malts. "Excellent choice! That's the most expensive one here, aged 18 years!", said my host of my decision. It tasted best to me because it was the most like Jack Daniels. And indeed it was aged 18 years...in recycled bourbon barrels. Cut out the middle man, I say.

And no ice please! Just straight single malt, water on the side.

FriqueNationale wrote:Scotch is badly overrated. The blended stuff tastes like Mr. Clean. The best Scotch I ever had, I picked out of a blind tasting of various single malts. "Excellent choice! That's the most expensive one here, aged 18 years!", said my host of my decision. It tasted best to me because it was the most like Jack Daniels. And indeed it was aged 18 years...in recycled bourbon barrels. Cut out the middle man, I say.

Scotch isn't overrated, it's just prohibitively expensive for the good ones.

Also, JD is Tennessee Whiskey, not Bourbon. =Þ

Glens, Macallan and if it has to be blend - Ballantine's!

stickman wrote:

FriqueNationale wrote:Scotch is badly overrated. The blended stuff tastes like Mr. Clean. The best Scotch I ever had, I picked out of a blind tasting of various single malts. "Excellent choice! That's the most expensive one here, aged 18 years!", said my host of my decision. It tasted best to me because it was the most like Jack Daniels. And indeed it was aged 18 years...in recycled bourbon barrels. Cut out the middle man, I say.

Scotch isn't overrated, it's just prohibitively expensive for the good ones.

Also, JD is Tennessee Whiskey, not Bourbon. =Þ

Agreed about scotch being expensive for the good ones.

Also, it's a completely different flavor from bourbon. The only thing they have in common is they are both technically whiskey. The flavors couldn't be more different.

I have what I would like to believe is a decent collection of single malts. Each one of them has their own unique flavor in and of itself. Sometimes I'm in the mood for something really smoky so I'll break out one from Islay. I've heard malts from Islay described as "so smoky it'll make your eyes BLEED". Sometimes I'm in the mood for something mild and very smooth so I'll pour a glass of Glenfiddich.

A very good single malt is best served on the rocks or with water. Scotch should not be served neat.


As for JD being Tennessee whiskey and not bourbon, that is partially incorrect. JD is Tennessee whiskey. However, Tennessee whiskey is a type of bourbon. What makes Tennessee whiskey distinct is that it is made only in Tennessee and it undergoes an additional filtration process. It is bourbon nonetheless. When buying any kind of bourbon though, make sure it is STRAIGHT not BLENDED.

With Scotch, a blend simply means a blend of different malts. It basically means that bottle came from multiple distilleries, whereas a single malt came from a single distillery and a single type of grain. Blended scotches can be quite good, though I find the flavor tends to be a little less distinct; a little muddy. Most I don't like, but there are some good blended Scotches. Johnny Walker has a few IMO. One positive aspect of blended Scotch is that the age listed on the bottle is the age of the youngest malt in the bottle. So it is quite possible to have a bottle that is mostly a year or two older than the bottle states, but containing only some whiskey of the age stated. It's certainly uncommon though.

With bourbon, a blend means that it contains a mixture of whiskey, grain neutral spirits, and coloring. Straight bourbon contains only whiskey with no added coloring and no grain neutral spirits. Blended bourbons taste like rotgut. There's no such thing as a good tasting blended bourbon.

Wurble wrote:

stickman wrote:

FriqueNationale wrote:Scotch is badly overrated. The blended stuff tastes like Mr. Clean. The best Scotch I ever had, I picked out of a blind tasting of various single malts. "Excellent choice! That's the most expensive one here, aged 18 years!", said my host of my decision. It tasted best to me because it was the most like Jack Daniels. And indeed it was aged 18 years...in recycled bourbon barrels. Cut out the middle man, I say.

Scotch isn't overrated, it's just prohibitively expensive for the good ones.

Also, JD is Tennessee Whiskey, not Bourbon. =Þ

Agreed about scotch being expensive for the good ones.

Also, it's a completely different flavor from bourbon. The only thing they have in common is they are both technically whiskey. The flavors couldn't be more different.

I have what I would like to believe is a decent collection of single malts. Each one of them has their own unique flavor in and of itself. Sometimes I'm in the mood for something really smoky so I'll break out one from Islay. I've heard malts from Islay described as "so smoky it'll make your eyes BLEED". Sometimes I'm in the mood for something mild and very smooth so I'll pour a glass of Glenfiddich.

A very good single malt is best served on the rocks or with water. Scotch should not be served neat.


As for JD being Tennessee whiskey and not bourbon, that is partially incorrect. JD is Tennessee whiskey. However, Tennessee whiskey is a type of bourbon. What makes Tennessee whiskey distinct is that it is made only in Tennessee and it undergoes an additional filtration process. It is bourbon nonetheless. When buying any kind of bourbon though, make sure it is STRAIGHT not BLENDED.

With Scotch, a blend simply means a blend of different malts. It basically means that bottle came from multiple distilleries, whereas a single malt came from a single distillery and a single type of grain. Blended scotches can be quite good, though I find the flavor tends to be a little less distinct; a little muddy. Most I don't like, but there are some good blended Scotches. Johnny Walker has a few IMO. One positive aspect of blended Scotch is that the age listed on the bottle is the age of the youngest malt in the bottle. So it is quite possible to have a bottle that is mostly a year or two older than the bottle states, but containing only some whiskey of the age stated. It's certainly uncommon though.

With bourbon, a blend means that it contains a mixture of whiskey, grain neutral spirits, and coloring. Straight bourbon contains only whiskey with no added coloring and no grain neutral spirits. Blended bourbons taste like rotgut. There's no such thing as a good tasting blended bourbon.

That is the most sacrilegious thing ever uttered! Damn Americans destroying fine Scottish drinks with their ice! Damn! Damn! Damn!

mvelimir wrote:

Wurble wrote:

stickman wrote:

FriqueNationale wrote:Scotch is badly overrated. The blended stuff tastes like Mr. Clean. The best Scotch I ever had, I picked out of a blind tasting of various single malts. "Excellent choice! That's the most expensive one here, aged 18 years!", said my host of my decision. It tasted best to me because it was the most like Jack Daniels. And indeed it was aged 18 years...in recycled bourbon barrels. Cut out the middle man, I say.

Scotch isn't overrated, it's just prohibitively expensive for the good ones.

Also, JD is Tennessee Whiskey, not Bourbon. =Þ

Agreed about scotch being expensive for the good ones.

Also, it's a completely different flavor from bourbon. The only thing they have in common is they are both technically whiskey. The flavors couldn't be more different.

I have what I would like to believe is a decent collection of single malts. Each one of them has their own unique flavor in and of itself. Sometimes I'm in the mood for something really smoky so I'll break out one from Islay. I've heard malts from Islay described as "so smoky it'll make your eyes BLEED". Sometimes I'm in the mood for something mild and very smooth so I'll pour a glass of Glenfiddich.

A very good single malt is best served on the rocks or with water. Scotch should not be served neat.


As for JD being Tennessee whiskey and not bourbon, that is partially incorrect. JD is Tennessee whiskey. However, Tennessee whiskey is a type of bourbon. What makes Tennessee whiskey distinct is that it is made only in Tennessee and it undergoes an additional filtration process. It is bourbon nonetheless. When buying any kind of bourbon though, make sure it is STRAIGHT not BLENDED.

With Scotch, a blend simply means a blend of different malts. It basically means that bottle came from multiple distilleries, whereas a single malt came from a single distillery and a single type of grain. Blended scotches can be quite good, though I find the flavor tends to be a little less distinct; a little muddy. Most I don't like, but there are some good blended Scotches. Johnny Walker has a few IMO. One positive aspect of blended Scotch is that the age listed on the bottle is the age of the youngest malt in the bottle. So it is quite possible to have a bottle that is mostly a year or two older than the bottle states, but containing only some whiskey of the age stated. It's certainly uncommon though.

With bourbon, a blend means that it contains a mixture of whiskey, grain neutral spirits, and coloring. Straight bourbon contains only whiskey with no added coloring and no grain neutral spirits. Blended bourbons taste like rotgut. There's no such thing as a good tasting blended bourbon.

That is the most sacrilegious thing ever uttered! Damn Americans destroying fine Scottish drinks with their ice! Damn! Damn! Damn!

Some single malts suggest a touch of water because it changes the taste and aroma.

FriqueNationale wrote:Scotch is badly overrated. The blended stuff tastes like Mr. Clean. The best Scotch I ever had, I picked out of a blind tasting of various single malts. "Excellent choice! That's the most expensive one here, aged 18 years!", said my host of my decision. It tasted best to me because it was the most like Jack Daniels. And indeed it was aged 18 years...in recycled bourbon barrels. Cut out the middle man, I say.

Try a 40 year old Murray McDavid sometime, if you can find it, it's gotten kinda scarce state side.

If you want something different may I suggest Templeton Rye.

mvelimir wrote:That is the most sacrilegious thing ever uttered! Damn Americans destroying fine Scottish drinks with their ice! Damn! Damn! Damn!

The only negative associated with ice is that if it is too cold it may numb the tongue.

The problem with drinking scotch neat is that the evaporating alcohol masks the smell of everything else. By adding spring water or purified water, you lessen the strength of the alcohol allowing the more subtle flavors and smells to be detected. If you use ice instead of water, you have to make sure it is ice made from spring water or purified water. No tap water since tap water typically contains chlorine.

Cask strength scotch especially should NEVER be had neat. EVER.


Most people I know who drink scotch neat couldn't tell an Islay from a Speyside.

To me, this thread resembles the Star Wars one. Both appear to be written in a foreign language.

Been through JD's works, took the 4 hour tour. That was definitely corn in the vats. So it's Bourbon, then filtered through hard maple charcoal.

Antiquus wrote:Been through JD's works, took the 4 hour tour. That was definitely corn in the vats. So it's Bourbon, then filtered through hard maple charcoal.

Guys-

Real Bourbon (Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey) is only made in Bourbon County, Kentucky. If it's not from Bourbon County, it might be Bourbon-style, but it ain't Bourbon (no matter what anyone tells you). It's like Champagne but American's aren't as uppity about the naming conventions as the French are.

By law straight Bourbon must be %51 corn mash, aged in new oak barrels for 2 years (in practice this is almost always aged 4 years or more), and bottled at not less than 80 proof.

As for Tennessee Whiskey, I find it to be in general smoother and sweeter than Bourbon. George Dickel is in my opinion one of the finest whiskeys readily available for a reasonable price.

As for Scotch, I prefer the younger Scotches in general. 18-years generally are too smooth for my palate. The Macallan 12 year would have to be my current pick. I generally rinse a glass with filtered water and then add the Scotch (that way it adds the bare minimum of water) but I agree it needs a touch of water to open up the aroma and flavor.

mark wrote:To me, this thread resembles the Star Wars one. Both appear to be written in a foreign language.

Agreed,

you have a bunch of alkies and star wars nerds on your site Mark

Drinking, guns, and Star Wars. No wonder we only have 2 women on the forum.

Serves the Scotty's right. The only good drink is a good Irish drink Jameson Irish Whiskey Tullamore Dew
Bushmills Black Bush although bushmill is my third choice it comes from northern Ireland and I am not a fan of the north it will pass in a emergency. the real water of life IRISH SPIRITS

irishman wrote:Serves the Scotty's right. The only good drink is a good Irish drink Jameson Irish Whiskey Tullamore Dew
Bushmills Black Bush although bushmill is my third choice it comes from northern Ireland and I am not a fan of the north it will pass in a emergency. the real water of life IRISH SPIRITS

I have to agree with you Irishman, getting a good Irish whiskey where I live is difficult so if I drink whiskey (rare these days to do so) I drink Kentucky Bourbon, Knob Creek.

irishman wrote:Serves the Scotty's right. The only good drink is a good Irish drink Jameson Irish Whiskey Tullamore Dew
Bushmills Black Bush although bushmill is my third choice it comes from northern Ireland and I am not a fan of the north it will pass in a emergency. the real water of life IRISH SPIRITS

Those prods make a good whiskey.

Paladin wrote:

irishman wrote:Serves the Scotty's right. The only good drink is a good Irish drink Jameson Irish Whiskey Tullamore Dew
Bushmills Black Bush although bushmill is my third choice it comes from northern Ireland and I am not a fan of the north it will pass in a emergency. the real water of life IRISH SPIRITS

Those prods make a good whiskey.

HEY paladin what end of the isle do you hale from?

irishman wrote:

Paladin wrote:

irishman wrote:Serves the Scotty's right. The only good drink is a good Irish drink Jameson Irish Whiskey Tullamore Dew
Bushmills Black Bush although bushmill is my third choice it comes from northern Ireland and I am not a fan of the north it will pass in a emergency. the real water of life IRISH SPIRITS

Those prods make a good whiskey.

HEY paladin what end of the isle do you hale from?

County Hell

I'm Irish by marriage. My wife is a leahy which I believe is Cork.

Wurble wrote:

mvelimir wrote:That is the most sacrilegious thing ever uttered! Damn Americans destroying fine Scottish drinks with their ice! Damn! Damn! Damn!

The only negative associated with ice is that if it is too cold it may numb the tongue.

The problem with drinking scotch neat is that the evaporating alcohol masks the smell of everything else. By adding spring water or purified water, you lessen the strength of the alcohol allowing the more subtle flavors and smells to be detected. If you use ice instead of water, you have to make sure it is ice made from spring water or purified water. No tap water since tap water typically contains chlorine.

Cask strength scotch especially should NEVER be had neat. EVER.


Most people I know who drink scotch neat couldn't tell an Islay from a Speyside.

You drip few drops of spring water, from that glass of water that sits next to your scotch, using your finger, and that's it. You're not suppose to dilute it with a melting iceberg!

Sorry, but this is one of the things where we will have to strongly disagree.