Now that would be a fine way to end this travesty.CDFingers wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:44 pm CBS reports cabinet discussing the 25th Amendment.
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I'll settle for just Blue regardless of the rhetoric.
I won’t object to them, I won’t vote against them, but I won’t vote for them either. We can dance around this all you want, but my suggestion is for you to help me convince the dems the error of their ways.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.htmlRepublican Sens. Steve Daines [R-MT] and James Lankford [R-OK] say they will now vote to certify the election results.
Calling Wednesday’s insurrection “a sad day for our country,” the two senators said, "We now need the entire Congress to come together and vote to certify the election results."
"We must stand together as Americans. We must defend our Constitution and the rule of law," they said.
She reversed her stance, and received an ovation.highdesert wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:02 pmhttps://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.htmlRepublican Sens. Steve Daines [R-MT] and James Lankford [R-OK] say they will now vote to certify the election results.
Calling Wednesday’s insurrection “a sad day for our country,” the two senators said, "We now need the entire Congress to come together and vote to certify the election results."
"We must stand together as Americans. We must defend our Constitution and the rule of law," they said.
Sen Kelley Loffler [R-GA] said she will not object.
We the people.CDFingers wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:13 pm Democracy is a messy business, but the best after everything else was tried.
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I hope they follow through and do it. It’s the only way to put an end to this .shinzen wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:19 pm Link to the CBS report:
https://www.kwch.com/2021/01/07/cbs-new ... ent-trump/
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-fuming- ... urrection/Trump is ‘fuming mad’ after unsuccessful insurrection — aide says he has ‘lost it’: reports
There are disturbing reports about Donald Trump's mental state coming out of the White House after supporters of the president unsuccessfully attempted a violent coup at the U.S. Capitol.
CNN chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta reports that Trump is "traumatized" and "out of his mind" over failing to overturn the election results.
"I talked to a source, a GOP source close to the president who speaks with him regularly, and I take no pleasure in reporting this, but this source tells me that he believes the president is out of his mind. The quote used by this source is 'he is out of his mind,'" Acosta reported. "And the source says the president is so traumatized by his loss in the election it is all he can talk about, it is all he can think about, it's all-consuming for him. And in this source's opinion he is out of his mind."
Maggie Haberman of The New York Times also had terrifying news from the White House.
"The president, a senior adviser says, has 'lost it.' He has been almost impossible to talk to throughout the day today, and has been watching the coverage of the Capitol," Haberman reported.
John Santucci of ABC News reported Trump was unclear what to do next.
"Sources tonight say the president is fuming mad inside the White House, unclear what his next move or action could be - he is described by one strong source as 'stewing,'" Santucci reported.
We pissed off the universe. We’re arrogant.TrueTexan wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:22 pm I would like to know what did we do to piss off the Chinese this bad?
“May you live in interesting times.” Old Chinese curse.
https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comme ... apitol_is/Trump supporters are kneelers. This is their one chance and they half ass it. If they believe democrats stole the election because a con man sold them that idea, they sure didn't stand up for him much. That's because Trump supporters want to be dominated. Either the democrats won the election fairly (and they did) or Trump supporters are weak and easily defeated (and this seems to be also true). Weak losers.
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Trump supporters want to be dominated
Weak losers.
Stop it, you're turning them on
Agreed. The 25A talk is just misdirection. Too many sycophants and pardon-seekers want him around 2 more weeks.
Whatever process. Do it. Do it now.K9s wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:48 pmAgreed. The 25A talk is just misdirection. Too many sycophants and pardon-seekers want him around 2 more weeks.
Impeach and remove immediately. Make the Senators take the vote for/against removal ASAP.
Perhaps we’ve revealed who we really have been all along.
Context - there was a rope involved, and a gas station.the Fonz wrote:TRUMP is exactly like MUSSOLINI .. his term should end that way
— Henry Winkler (@hwinkler4real) January 6, 2021
Not exactly.wings wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:11 pmContext - there was a rope involved, and a gas station.the Fonz wrote:TRUMP is exactly like MUSSOLINI .. his term should end that way
— Henry Winkler (@hwinkler4real) January 6, 2021
https://www.axios.com/republicans-trump ... 88d57.htmlWith 13 days left in President Trump's term, confidants and Republican officials are considering drastic steps to stop him, Jonathan Swan and Margaret Talev report.
The big picture: These measures include censure, impeachment or invoking the 25th Amendment — a move, long dismissed as a liberal fantasy, in which Vice President Pence would step in if Trump were found to be unable to perform his duties.
This talk is coming from current and former White House and GOP Hill aides, and Republican lobbyists and political consultants — all of whom have either embraced him or quietly tolerated him until now.
Senior State Department officials are encouraging 25th Amendment discussions along with other officials at the White House and other departments, according to two sources involved in the discussions.
The state of play: Republicans are furious with the president for what they see as fomenting an attack on American democracy, disgracing their party and invading the sanctity of their chambers on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue.
There's concern about whether the country can withstand another two weeks with Trump at the helm, and what additional chaos and division could be sowed.
There's also rage inside the GOP at Sens. Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz and others whose plans to object to Biden's certification gave oxygen to Trump, the protests and the notion that Congress could be used to overturn the will of voters.
Behind the scenes: In recent days, there is a sense of futility among long-time confidants trying to get through to Trump.
He's simply not engaging with some, and while with others, he's talking but not listening. He doesn't want to hear that he lost the election to Biden, that Pence can't overturn the results, that he should help rather than hurt the Republican Party, or that he should tell his protesters to stand down.
Sources tell Jonathan that Trump has been ranting about Pence.
Be smart: There are many factors to consider before initiating any maneuver: Would it have the support to succeed? Would it chasten Trump or boomerang to make him even more of a folk hero? Would it boost or further damage the rest of the Republican Party?
A censure has little impact. Even if there were the bipartisan will for a second impeachment of Trump, there is not enough time remaining for a trial in the Senate.
The 25th Amendment route would require buy-in from Pence and a majority of Trump's Cabinet. But many of those Cabinet members also have been loyalists to the president and serve in acting capacities, so it's not clear that support or will exists.
The bottom line: No House or Senate Republican leaders are yet championing these ideas — and it's too soon to know whether those talking about them are just letting off steam after a shock to the democracy, or whether a critical mass exists to proceed.
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