Texas contests election results in four battleground states in unusual last-minute lawsuit

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Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is suing four battleground states — Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — whose election results handed the White House to President-elect Joe Biden.

In the suit, he claims that pandemic-era changes to election procedures in those states violated federal law, and asks the U.S. Supreme Court to block the states from voting in the Electoral College.

The last-minute bid, which legal experts have already characterized as a longshot, comes alongside dozens of similar attempts by President Donald Trump and his political allies. The majority of those lawsuits have already failed.

There is no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election, officials in most states and U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr have said. Biden won in all four states where Paxton is challenging the results.

In a filing to the high court Tuesday, Paxton claims the four battleground states broke the law by instituting pandemic-related changes to election policies, whether “through executive fiat or friendly lawsuits, thereby weakening ballot integrity.”

Paxton claimed that these changes allowed for voter fraud to occur — a conclusion experts and election officials have rejected — and said the court should push back a Dec. 14 deadline by which states must appoint their presidential electors.

“That deadline, however, should not cement a potentially illegitimate election result in the middle of this storm,” attorneys for Texas wrote.

Officials in Georgia — where Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger recertified the state’s election results again Monday after a recount — were quick to dismiss Paxton’s allegations, as were leaders in the other three states named in the lawsuit.

“The allegations in the lawsuit are false and irresponsible,” Georgia’s deputy secretary of state, Jordan Fuchs, said in a statement Tuesday. “Texas alleges that there are 80,000 forged signatures on absentee ballots in Georgia, but they don’t bring forward a single person who this happened to. That’s because it didn’t happen.”

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel dismissed Paxton’s suit as “a publicity stunt, not a serious legal pleading.”

“Mr. Paxton’s actions are beneath the dignity of the office of Attorney General and the people of the great state of Texas,” she said.

Paxton and Trump are political allies whose interests often line up in court, as with Texas’ challenge to the Affordable Care Act. Paxton, in public appearances, often characterizes their relationship as a friendly one, sharing the story of the time the president called while Paxton was in the shower.

Paxton, who has been under indictment since 2015 for felony securities fraud charges, is facing fresh criminal allegations from eight of his top deputies, who said they believe he broke the law by using the agency to do favors for a political donor. The FBI is investigating Paxton over those claims, according to the Associated Press. Paxton has denied wrongdoing.

Notably, Paxton himself is listed as the agency’s lead attorney on the case — a highly unusual role for the state official, who rarely plays a hands-on role even in the state’s major cases. Paxton’s new chief deputy, Brent Webster, signed onto the filing, but conspicuously absent is the agency’s top lawyer for appellate work, Solicitor General Kyle Hawkins, who typically argues the state’s cases before the Supreme Court and did so as recently as last month. None of Hawkins’ deputies is listed as contributing to the case, nor are any of the agency’s hundreds of other attorneys.

The agency instead appears to have hired an outside attorney, Lawrence Joseph, to contribute to the case.

The agency did not answer questions about its staffing choices for the lawsuit, nor did Hawkins himself.

Gov. Greg Abbott, a former Texas attorney general, did not return a request for comment on the lawsuit.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/texas ... e-lawsuit/

Texas is not one of the states, but Larry the AG for Texas will try to set a new record for the most federal cases lost by an AG. He has already set the record for the most cases lost by a State AG under indictment.
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Can't see how ANY Federal Court will let Asshole Paxton even get in the door because he doesn't have standing.
He needs to read the 11th Amendment (the one nobody but lawyers ever study--and not many of them!):
The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.
"commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State"--which includes the asshole!

Notice that fixing the Federal Court's jurisdiction was SO important that it was the first amendment added after the Bill of Rights, by just 3 years, ratified NINE YEARS before "fixing" the Electoral College vote in the 12th Amendment!
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And because this suit was filed by the Texas AG and hiring outside counsel to argue the case, where is this money coming from? Yup, taxpayer dollars for an obvious political stunt. I ask again, who will be held accountable for this theft of public money?
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DamnYankee wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:46 pm Not even three weeks ago it was announced that Paxton was being investigated by the FBI for breaking the law by using his office to benefit a wealthy donor. This is the AG Who’s own staff reported him for wrongdoing. What an embarrassment.
And quite possibly the next Texas Governor.
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sig230 wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:17 pm
DamnYankee wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:46 pm Not even three weeks ago it was announced that Paxton was being investigated by the FBI for breaking the law by using his office to benefit a wealthy donor. This is the AG Who’s own staff reported him for wrongdoing. What an embarrassment.
And quite possibly the next Texas Governor.
Even the Repugs would not have that. They would go for Patrick before ‘Paxton
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Good read
Maddow does takedown of corrupt Texas AG pushing Trump’s lawsuits to score a pardon for all of his scandals

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow began her Tuesday evening show talking about the 2020 election results’ perfect encapsulation with the news that Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton may be waging his lawsuit for Donald Trump’s election only to score himself a pardon.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/maddow ... -scandals/

Now even Abbott is showing support for Paxton.
Gov. Greg Abbott, a former Texas attorney general, signaled support for the lawsuit, telling a reporter the case "tries to accelerate the process, providing certainty and clarity about the entire election process. The United States of America needs that."
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/08 ... n-georgia/

Well that's two for the three stooges having chimed in so just waiting for the Lt. Gov. Patrick to open his Shock Jock yap and make it a Threesome.
Texas is not know for really great elected state officials. The las good governor we had was Democrat Ann Richards.
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TrueTexan wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:54 am Good read
Maddow does takedown of corrupt Texas AG pushing Trump’s lawsuits to score a pardon for all of his scandals

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow began her Tuesday evening show talking about the 2020 election results’ perfect encapsulation with the news that Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton may be waging his lawsuit for Donald Trump’s election only to score himself a pardon.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/maddow ... -scandals/

Now even Abbott is showing support for Paxton.
Gov. Greg Abbott, a former Texas attorney general, signaled support for the lawsuit, telling a reporter the case "tries to accelerate the process, providing certainty and clarity about the entire election process. The United States of America needs that."
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/08 ... n-georgia/

Well that's two for the three stooges having chimed in so just waiting for the Lt. Gov. Patrick to open his Shock Jock yap and make it a Threesome.
Texas is not know for really great elected state officials. The las good governor we had was Democrat Ann Richards.
Would love to see another Ann show up. She would have had no qualms about kicking a cripple if needed.
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Seventeen more states are getting in on it.
Seventeen states whose elections were won by President Donald Trump told the Supreme Court on Wednesday that they support Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s bid to file a lawsuit that could effectively reverse President-elect Joe Biden’s projected Electoral College victory.

The filing backing Paxton by those states came a day after he asked the Supreme Court for permission to sue Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all of which Biden won, over their voting processes.

Later Wednesday, Trump filed a motion to intervene in the case “in his personal capacity” as a presidential candidate. The Supreme Court has yet to rule on Paxton’s request.

The states supporting the suit, all of which have Republican attorneys general, are Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/states- ... n-win.html

I guess we could ask California, New York, and a few other blue states to sue Texas and the others for their voter suppression efforts. That'll be fun.

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Well it had to happen.
Trump’s Supreme Court filing says he can’t prove fraud — which means there must be fraud

President Donald Trump joined the case brought by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton suing states that voted for Joe Biden in the November election. According to the filing from Trump, however, they can’t actually find any fraud.

“Despite the chaos of election night and the days which followed, the media has consistently proclaimed that no widespread voter fraud has been proven. But this observation misses the point. The constitutional issue is not whether voters committed fraud but whether state officials violated the law by systematically loosening the measures for ballot integrity so that fraud becomes undetectable,” the filing said.

Politico reporter Kyle Cheney characterized it as Trump claiming that he knows that there was fraud because he can’t prove fraud.

In the Georgia case, Trump’s allies made similar claims that officials didn’t do enough to protect against fraud that didn’t happen. Judge Steven Grimberg of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia said that the case there lacked standing and that they should have brought it weeks before the election if they had such a big problem with the way officials conducted the election.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/trump ... -be-fraud/
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“Despite the chaos of election night and the days which followed, the media has consistently proclaimed that no widespread voter fraud has been proven. But this observation misses the point. The constitutional issue is not whether voters committed fraud but whether state officials violated the law by systematically loosening the measures for ballot integrity so that fraud becomes undetectable,” the filing said.

Politico reporter Kyle Cheney characterized it as Trump claiming that he knows that there was fraud because he can’t prove fraud.
Dang, we need some new definitions for this level of Trumpian doublspeak. Where’s George Orwell when he is so desperately needed.
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YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:27 pm Time for California, New York, and New Jersey to sue Texas, Florida, and North Carolina, to throw THEIR votes out due to the same fraud that Paxon is claiming, and give the electoral votes to Joe Biden.
There might actually be a case against Texas for vote tampering based on restrictions placed on where ballots could be turned in in person and on the content of the instruction sheet that was sent out with every mail in ballot.
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sig230 wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:55 am
YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:27 pm Time for California, New York, and New Jersey to sue Texas, Florida, and North Carolina, to throw THEIR votes out due to the same fraud that Paxon is claiming, and give the electoral votes to Joe Biden.
There might actually be a case against Texas for vote tampering based on restrictions placed on where ballots could be turned in in person and on the content of the instruction sheet that was sent out with every mail in ballot.
There certainly is real and hard evidence of voter suppression, right there in Abbott's orders. Like one drop box per county.
Similar in Florida and North Carolina.

Sure it will be tossed by THIS SCOTUS but would strongly contrast Paxson's putzing around.
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We should just give up right now and drink the koolaid. They have an unbeatable strategy.
"Despite the chaos of election night and the days which followed, the media has consistently proclaimed that no widespread voter fraud has been proven. But this observation misses the point. The constitutional issue is not whether voters committed fraud but whether state officials violated the law by systematically loosening the measures for ballot integrity so that fraud becomes undetectable."

--snp--

So the initial claim was Team Trump has evidence of fraud, but the new claim is that the evidence is "undetectable," which is why no one can see it.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sho ... e-n1250717

Because we can't detect it, it has to be there.

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