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Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

127 by highdesert
Democrats should be thanking Trump, who depressed the Republican vote with his talk of election fraud. And over $200 million helped. Hope Warnock and Ossoff win any recounts and they are certified as the winners. It would be a nice start for Biden. The 2022 midterm is a new game.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

128 by TrueTexan
Furious GOP official says Trump has done more damage to Georgia than anyone since General Sherman

Many Republicans are still furious at President Donald Trump for likely costing them the Senate thanks to his constant complaints that the state had "rigged" its election against him.

In fact, CNN's Manu Raju reports that one "senior Republican official" unloaded on Trump Wednesday by making a brutal Civil War analogy.

"Not since General Sherman has one man done as much damage, to as many people, in as little time," the official said.

William Sherman was a Union Army general during the American Civil War who is infamous in Georgia for his "March to the Sea" in which he and his men traveled from Atlanta to Savannah while leaving a trail of burned cities, farms, and infrastructure in their wake.

After comparing Trump to Sherman, the GOP official also slammed Trump for his unique skill in driving Democratic voter turnout.

"No one in the history of our country turns out voters like Donald Trump," the official said. "The problem is, the overwhelming majority of them vote against him and anyone loosely affiliated with him."
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-georgia-2649768199/

Trump and the Trumpers new marching song.

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
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Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

129 by Bisbee
CDFingers wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:30 am I've been cruising conservative boards. Tee hee.

ermegherd. My tummy hurts from da laff.

CDFingers
:roflmao:

We’d like to read some of the gems you unearth from the compost pile.
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Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

130 by K9s
A letter from the second civil war in Georgia: :yahoo:

Seriously, my thoughts: Warnock and Ossoff ran on healthcare, pandemic economy, climate change, anti-racism, anti-hate, anti-corruption, and civil rights. They intentionally never mentioned Trump.

Loeffler and Perdue called them radical communist socialists who want to defund the police. They ran on white grievance and Trump.

I don't remember the 2A or gun control ever once being mentioned by either side. I saw some NRA ads online once in a while about it, but it doesn't register here if the Dems aren't running on it.

The lesson? Dems don't want to vote for moderates here. They want progressives. Gun control is a losing issue here.
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Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

133 by sig230
Unintended Consequences.

Since this stupid botched coup attempt stopped the counting it will allow Ossoff and Warnock to take their seats and the first order of business before the Electoral Vote Recount can be the acknowledgement of a new Senate Majority Leader.

Thanks FOOLS!
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Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

135 by highdesert
Yes the NY Times is reporting that Ossoff has won over Perdue in the other GA senate election.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... FZpecNRKit

If they survive a recount and certification, Democrats will have limited control of the Senate.

CNN is also projecting a win for Ossoff.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics ... index.html
Last edited by highdesert on Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

136 by K9s
There won't be an automatic recount. It wasn't close enough (by law 0.5% means auto recount).

I doubt the GOP has the stomach for a recount after the Trump violence today. It would be a really good way to rev up Dem voting for 2022 if they want to keep losing recounts and pissing people off.

Mitch and Co cannot block cabinet nominees or judges for two years. GOP cannot block legislation that makes GOP senators votes be used against them. GOP cannot investigate the investigators and political enemies for two years (Benghazi, Hunter, Hillary). GOP cannot block investigations into political corruption and self-dealing. It was a win for our sanity, and we needed a break from Ron Johnson and Ted Cruz.

Dems can use budget procedures to promote green energy, CDC, education, and healthcare. No gun bans, no big proposals, but no Betsy DeVos or Bill Barr. It could have been much worse.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

138 by highdesert
K9s wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:20 pm There won't be an automatic recount. It wasn't close enough (by law 0.5% means auto recount).

I doubt the GOP has the stomach for a recount after the Trump violence today. It would be a really good way to rev up Dem voting for 2022 if they want to keep losing recounts and pissing people off.

Mitch and Co cannot block cabinet nominees or judges for two years. GOP cannot block legislation that makes GOP senators votes be used against them. GOP cannot investigate the investigators and political enemies for two years (Benghazi, Hunter, Hillary). GOP cannot block investigations into political corruption and self-dealing. It was a win for our sanity, and we needed a break from Ron Johnson and Ted Cruz.

Dems can use budget procedures to promote green energy, CDC, education, and healthcare. No gun bans, no big proposals, but no Betsy DeVos or Bill Barr. It could have been much worse.
Yes, hoping that Loffler and Perdue don't ask for recounts and this is the end. It's not "easy street" ahead for Biden.
https://georgia.gov/election-recount-ru ... certified.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

139 by Bisbee
No concessions coming from the right. Both L & P are openly announcing they will use “all legal means necessary to defend democracy,” blah blah blah...
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence. There is hope for a violent man to become non-violent. There is no such hope for the impotent." -Gandhi

Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

142 by K9s
I have a feeling that McConnell is telling all of his people to shut up and be cool now. They have already lost a lot of voters, and the voters may want vengeance if they continue this fake civil war confederacy crap. Time will tell.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

143 by YankeeTarheel
highdesert wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:58 pm Fox News has declared Warnock and Ossoff winners in the GA runoff. Fox does not use Edison Research for projections like CNN and the other networks.
I looked at the numbers county by county before it was called for Ossoff and I saw that not only was he going to win, he was going to surpass, easily, the half-point threshold below which, an automatic recount is triggered.
The trends in key counties (like DeWalt) would clearly put Ossoff well over the 23,000 margin he would need. They did. Later, I saw that the current numbers look exactly as I expected.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

144 by K9s
Yeah, after the 2020 election, it became easier to read the tea leaves in GA. The turnout was far higher than anyone expected for a January runoff (4.5 million). The secretary of state and governor stopped trying to suppress votes after POTUS said they should be jailed. It turns out that more people vote if you let them vote.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

146 by K9s
highdesert wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:47 am Saw a comment from Newt Gingrich on the GA elections, he attributes the wins to Stacy Abram's ground game. He encouraged Republicans to study her techniques and learn from her. Abram's should have a good chance against Kemp next election if she decides to run.
Newt is out of touch. Republicans had more (paid) people on the ground here than Dems did. More voters voted during the runoff than in the 2016 election.

Dems had multiple organizations working together (AAPI, Latinx, African-American, etc) but the African-American vote is the majority of the Dem voters here and is a very large population. Voters were motivated on all sides. GOP always gets 70+% of White voters (they almost always vote), but that isn't a winning number anymore if everyone else is motivated.

And Kemp did himself a political favor by opposing Trump. Trump treated Kemp like crap and he didn't budge. His primary voters will respect that. Most of us were happy to see that. Kemp will have a right-wing challenger from the Gainesville Mafia (probably Doug Collins) but he made his Country Club Republicans happy. He knows the far-right GOP voters will never ever vote for a Democrat.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

Re: GA run off Senate Races. All the Dirt.

150 by highdesert
K9s wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:01 pm
highdesert wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:47 am Saw a comment from Newt Gingrich on the GA elections, he attributes the wins to Stacy Abram's ground game. He encouraged Republicans to study her techniques and learn from her. Abram's should have a good chance against Kemp next election if she decides to run.
Newt is out of touch. Republicans had more (paid) people on the ground here than Dems did. More voters voted during the runoff than in the 2016 election.

Dems had multiple organizations working together (AAPI, Latinx, African-American, etc) but the African-American vote is the majority of the Dem voters here and is a very large population. Voters were motivated on all sides. GOP always gets 70+% of White voters (they almost always vote), but that isn't a winning number anymore if everyone else is motivated.

And Kemp did himself a political favor by opposing Trump. Trump treated Kemp like crap and he didn't budge. His primary voters will respect that. Most of us were happy to see that. Kemp will have a right-wing challenger from the Gainesville Mafia (probably Doug Collins) but he made his Country Club Republicans happy. He knows the far-right GOP voters will never ever vote for a Democrat.
Thanks for clarifying. Perdue's seat is vacant right now but by Jan 22nd the election will be certified and GA will have two new senators.
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