So who is prepping for November?
I feel ok about a lot of our general supplies. My wife tends to hyper focus so when I bring the subject up she will inventory and see what is lacking. I don't feel comfy with my general ammo levels. Working on that, hopefully it won't be an issue and no one will do anything drastic. We subscribe to the buy a little extra each run to the store paradigm.
So what are you working on?
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2how many firefights do you expect to get into? and survive?
food? still got my pandemic stockpile.
really, this civwar2.0-panic every couple of months is getting old. i just want enough ammo to go to the range once a month or so.
couple of hundred rounds of .45acp, couple of hundred 7.62 nato, couple of hundred 5.56. not a spray-&-pray type of guy. i'm good.
food? still got my pandemic stockpile.
really, this civwar2.0-panic every couple of months is getting old. i just want enough ammo to go to the range once a month or so.
couple of hundred rounds of .45acp, couple of hundred 7.62 nato, couple of hundred 5.56. not a spray-&-pray type of guy. i'm good.
i'm retired. what's your excuse?
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3o/
Reminds me, need to get the generator set up. The most indirect but potentially effective foreign attack on voting would come from hacking the electric grid on Election Day. We know Russia's been looking at ways to do that. Used to be you needed to have people pushing buttons and flipping switches in power facilities, but now everything's online.
Honestly, I expect the biggest problem in November to be information. Over the years, Congress has delegated a ridiculous amount of unilateral power to the executive during "emergencies" - determined by the executive, naturally. These range from the ability to commandeer vessels and ignore environmental laws to taking control of most broadcast and wire communications. Expect your TV and internet to look awfully federalized in November, and if you order any essentials online, get 'em done by November 1. The Atlantic covered this last year:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... rs/576418/
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -their-use
I would kindly remind all to be judicious with respect to commentary that could be perceived to endorse violence or revolt. The primary goal of the Second is defense, no matter how else you read it.
Reminds me, need to get the generator set up. The most indirect but potentially effective foreign attack on voting would come from hacking the electric grid on Election Day. We know Russia's been looking at ways to do that. Used to be you needed to have people pushing buttons and flipping switches in power facilities, but now everything's online.
Honestly, I expect the biggest problem in November to be information. Over the years, Congress has delegated a ridiculous amount of unilateral power to the executive during "emergencies" - determined by the executive, naturally. These range from the ability to commandeer vessels and ignore environmental laws to taking control of most broadcast and wire communications. Expect your TV and internet to look awfully federalized in November, and if you order any essentials online, get 'em done by November 1. The Atlantic covered this last year:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... rs/576418/
The Brennan Center has a nice overview of other powers here:One power poses a singular threat to democracy in the digital era. In 1942, Congress amended Section 706 of the Communications Act of 1934 to allow the president to shut down or take control of “any facility or station for wire communication” upon his proclamation “that there exists a state or threat of war involving the United States,” resurrecting a similar power Congress had briefly provided Woodrow Wilson during World War I. At the time, “wire communication” meant telephone calls or telegrams. Given the relatively modest role that electronic communications played in most Americans’ lives, the government’s assertion of this power during World War II (no president has used it since) likely created inconvenience but not havoc.
We live in a different universe today. Although interpreting a 1942 law to cover the internet might seem far-fetched, some government officials recently endorsed this reading during debates about cybersecurity legislation. Under this interpretation, Section 706 could effectively function as a “kill switch” in the U.S.—one that would be available to the president the moment he proclaimed a mere threat of war. It could also give the president power to assume control over U.S. internet traffic.
The potential impact of such a move can hardly be overstated. In August, in an early-morning tweet, Trump lamented that search engines were “RIGGED” to serve up negative articles about him. Later that day the administration said it was looking into regulating the big internet companies. “I think that Google and Twitter and Facebook, they’re really treading on very, very troubled territory. And they have to be careful,” Trump warned. If the government were to take control of U.S. internet infrastructure, Trump could accomplish directly what he threatened to do by regulation: ensure that internet searches always return pro-Trump content as the top results. The government also would have the ability to impede domestic access to particular websites, including social-media platforms. It could monitor emails or prevent them from reaching their destination. It could exert control over computer systems (such as states’ voter databases) and physical devices (such as Amazon’s Echo speakers) that are connected to the internet.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -their-use
I would kindly remind all to be judicious with respect to commentary that could be perceived to endorse violence or revolt. The primary goal of the Second is defense, no matter how else you read it.
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4I'm trying to prepare for the future. Adding a standby natural gas generator for the whole house since regardless of who wins office, our infrastructure is still old and under maintained and the odds of things increasingly stressing that infrastructure is 100%. As electric appliances get replaced I'll switch them to natural gas where possible. I added several CB radios and keep them charged, added additional weather radio units. Switched my electric plan to one based on renewable energy. I'll try to add an all terrain bike this fall. I've added a few crisis amenities; for example an expandable water bag that can fit in a tub and get filled and sealed rapidly to store fifty gallons of water or more. I keep two trauma packs, one in the trunk and one in the house. Also several hatchets and axes, come-alongs, various emergence signaling supplies, a portable room AC unit incase the main one dies. Keeping a land line phone as well as several cell phones and computer systems for communication.
But the biggest thing is to try to stay adaptable in mind as well as assets. Build local networks and community support. And try to have plan a, b, c, d, ...
But the biggest thing is to try to stay adaptable in mind as well as assets. Build local networks and community support. And try to have plan a, b, c, d, ...
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The next gun I buy will be the next to last gun I ever buy. PROMISE!
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5against our own government, specifically, should it trample our other rights.wings wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:42 am The primary goal of the Second is defense, no matter how else you read it.
i'm retired. what's your excuse?
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6I hope there aren't any but at this point I am feeling the need to hedge my bets. I don't prep because I expect things. I prep because I know that I am a generally complacent hairless ape who thinks "that could not possible happen here". And yet we see "it" happen pretty often. I think there is more to worry about in this country the next few months then there has been for decades. Doesn't matter if it is climate related, politically fueled or just a lot of stupid up top. I think it is worth it to stop guessin' and start messin'.
This has already reminded me that we still have not looked into a generator
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7This. So much this. Read up on any disaster recovery. Community is essential.sig230 wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:48 am
But the biggest thing is to try to stay adaptable in mind as well as assets. Build local networks and community support. And try to have plan a, b, c, d, ...
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8Panic now and avoid the rush... seriously.
I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY
III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT'S BEHIND IT
II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY
III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT'S BEHIND IT
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9:bananadance:
Thank you.
Really, if y'all really think things will go down the rabbit hole, why would you remain in the country? Particularly those within a few hours driving time from one of our borders?
Jesus
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Subliterate Buffooery of the right...
Literate Ignorance of the left...
Subliterate Buffooery of the right...
Literate Ignorance of the left...
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10America at it's worst would be better than Mexico & cartels. Can't say about Canada.
I've traveled the entire country down there, and hordes of Gringos won't be welcome. Even if you make it there with scads of $$, word will get around fast and soon it will be gone to robbery or ransom payments.
Besides, having any firearm there is an immediate prison sentence.
At best, get yourself into a long-term lease on a simple home, don't have a flashy car or lifestyle. Attend it on an irregular schedule so people get used to your coming & going. Buy as much as you can in Mexico, rather than importing your possessions. Retailers will appreciate that more than a bribe to the cops in terms of benefits.
SR
I've traveled the entire country down there, and hordes of Gringos won't be welcome. Even if you make it there with scads of $$, word will get around fast and soon it will be gone to robbery or ransom payments.
Besides, having any firearm there is an immediate prison sentence.
At best, get yourself into a long-term lease on a simple home, don't have a flashy car or lifestyle. Attend it on an irregular schedule so people get used to your coming & going. Buy as much as you can in Mexico, rather than importing your possessions. Retailers will appreciate that more than a bribe to the cops in terms of benefits.
SR
She came in thru the bathroom window...
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11I expect some, if not a lot, of turmoil come Nov. if not before. I'm good to go on ammo for all my guns. I'm stocking up on paper goods, dry goods (pasta, beans, peas, flour, yeast, powdered milk) and canned a bit at a time. Lots of dog food for Jake the Boxer (and me if it comes to that). I expect shortages in Nov. may exceed those of early CV19 shutdowns should turd win or lose. I've lived/worked in other countries (including Canada) and I'm staying put in the good old (or bad) USA. Spent a lot of time in Mexico, border and interior - I wouldn't move there 30 years ago much less today. No POS orange turd is pushing me out. Probably should get some Coleman fuel for all my relic camp gear and some mantles for lanterns. Have crank radio for weather and news (no batteries); lots of batteries for those things that need them. Freezer full. Both vehicles gassed up and both with CB's.
I will be one happy camper when 2020 is in my rear view mirror. What a shit year this has been.
I will be one happy camper when 2020 is in my rear view mirror. What a shit year this has been.
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The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made by USA was electing DJT as POTUS - TWICE!!!!!
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made by USA was electing DJT as POTUS - TWICE!!!!!
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12Yeast is a tough one. It always seems to die off. If you have recommended brand or storage solution, lay it on me.
Never smile too big, the gods may mistake it for hubris.
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13I've yet had any yeast go south - ever, and that covers many a year of bread making. Lately, I've been buying 1 lb. vacuumed packed bricks - last one was by Red Star and labeled to expire May 2022. I split into 8 oz. and vac store in pint wide mouth mason jars using my old FoodSaver vac machine. I'm about to pop open the second jar, probably in Oct.SpaceRanger42 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:05 am Yeast is a tough one. It always seems to die off. If you have recommended brand or storage solution, lay it on me.
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made by USA was electing DJT as POTUS - TWICE!!!!!
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made by USA was electing DJT as POTUS - TWICE!!!!!
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14I’m expecting some level of civil unrest, but not systemic collapse. The odds are that we will get through this. Other than topping off the supply of Mountain House and canned goods, and also pumping up the ammo supply by stepping up the reloading, my existing prepa rations should be enough. I’m taking 2 weeks vacation around Election Day, just in case, to see how the dust settles although the instability & uncertainty about a peaceful transfer of power may last into January. As far as decamping to another country goes, I’d rather “head for the hills” than be an unwanted refugee in some host country. Hunker down, watch and wait, and rely on friends and neighbors. You’ll be a OK.
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15I'm doin' November preps. My goal is six cans of Ocean Spray cranberry sauce with whole berries.
CDFingers
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1610 years after the apocalypse those Ocean Sprays will be pure gold. You’ll be a King.CDFingers wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:29 pm I'm doin' November preps. My goal is six cans of Ocean Spray cranberry sauce with whole berries.
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17Leaving the country? Pft. No one will take your passport anymore.
Don't think SHTF. Think April lockdowns, but with weird shortages. Remember TP hoarding? Make sure you've got any meds you need. Cash might not be a bad idea to keep on hand, in case there's hanky-panky with the electric grid. Fuel if you need it.
Don't be surprised if there are internet outages, so if there's information you need access to, download it locally instead of relying on cloud storage.
Don't think SHTF. Think April lockdowns, but with weird shortages. Remember TP hoarding? Make sure you've got any meds you need. Cash might not be a bad idea to keep on hand, in case there's hanky-panky with the electric grid. Fuel if you need it.
Don't be surprised if there are internet outages, so if there's information you need access to, download it locally instead of relying on cloud storage.
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18I prep for the important things, like butter-grilled Swiss on pumpernickel both sides with Cranberry relish in between, slice o' red.HuckleberryFun wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:58 pm10 years after the apocalypse those Ocean Sprays will be pure gold. You’ll be a King.CDFingers wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:29 pm I'm doin' November preps. My goal is six cans of Ocean Spray cranberry sauce with whole berries.
CDFingers
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19I think I'll lay in some ItsIts, just in case. Nothing like munching mint ice cream on a cookie covered in chocolate while the world burns.
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20There is actually no limit to the layings-in that could be done. Dates from the Inland Empire. Jars of natural, crunchy p-nut butter. Bags of banana chips.featureless wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:28 pm I think I'll lay in some ItsIts, just in case. Nothing like munching mint ice cream on a cookie covered in chocolate while the world burns.
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22Do you think that vac packing in mylar would work just as well?Wino wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:10 pmI've yet had any yeast go south - ever, and that covers many a year of bread making. Lately, I've been buying 1 lb. vacuumed packed bricks - last one was by Red Star and labeled to expire May 2022. I split into 8 oz. and vac store in pint wide mouth mason jars using my old FoodSaver vac machine. I'm about to pop open the second jar, probably in Oct.SpaceRanger42 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:05 am Yeast is a tough one. It always seems to die off. If you have recommended brand or storage solution, lay it on me.
Never smile too big, the gods may mistake it for hubris.
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23I have not had Its-Its in ages. Now I am on a mission.featureless wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:28 pm I think I'll lay in some ItsIts, just in case. Nothing like munching mint ice cream on a cookie covered in chocolate while the world burns.
Never smile too big, the gods may mistake it for hubris.
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24Don't see why not. Less convenient, I'd think, than Mason jar, but should work for long term storage, transfer to jar or plastic container for use/easy access.SpaceRanger42 wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:36 pmDo you think that vac packing in mylar would work just as well?Wino wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:10 pmI've yet had any yeast go south - ever, and that covers many a year of bread making. Lately, I've been buying 1 lb. vacuumed packed bricks - last one was by Red Star and labeled to expire May 2022. I split into 8 oz. and vac store in pint wide mouth mason jars using my old FoodSaver vac machine. I'm about to pop open the second jar, probably in Oct.SpaceRanger42 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:05 am Yeast is a tough one. It always seems to die off. If you have recommended brand or storage solution, lay it on me.
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made by USA was electing DJT as POTUS - TWICE!!!!!
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made by USA was electing DJT as POTUS - TWICE!!!!!
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25My better half and I went through our go bags earlier this week and made a few additions. I don't expect to see full societal collapse or anything, but I think it's fairly likely that the worst of 2020 is yet to come.
