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sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:32 am
YankeeTarheel wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:49 am The coronavirus is traceable to bats, which ended up in the open market in Wuhan. Apparently this one, nCoV-2019, is uniquely in bats and people. Has about a 3% mortality rate, so far, worse than most flu viruses, not as bad as some. It is related to SARS and MERS, but otherwise seems to be a whole new one.

And if Chinese officials aren't lying...Trump isn't President.

But there ARE effective control methods. Nigeria EFFECTIVELY shut down Ebola in 2014 from devastating Lagos. Other nations weren't able to be as effective.

Everyone is TERRIFIED of another Spanish Flu pandemic of 1919-1920 which killed more people than WWI that the world had just emerged from. The USA had more Spanish Flu deaths than in WWI, WWII, and possibly even more than Civil War deaths.
As a friend of ours said this weekend, she’s a Chinese doctor, people need to stop eating everything they see. LoL.
Exactly.
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sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:10 amThe quick quarantine and the speed at which these projects are enacted are more disturbing. You don’t build a hospital without a long design process unless you already have emergency plans and designs ready.
You know what it takes to design and build a facility like this. Earlier news reports said this is the first of two new hospitals.
He points out that the hospital in Beijing in 2003 was built in seven days so the construction team is probably attempting to beat that record. Just like the hospital in Beijing, the Wuhan centre will be made out of prefabricated buildings.
In 2003, the Xiaotangshan Hospital was built in Beijing in order to accommodate the number of patients showing symptoms of Sars. It was constructed in seven days, allegedly breaking the world record for the fastest construction of a hospital.

About 4,000 people worked to build the hospital, working throughout the day and night in order to meet the deadline, China.com.cn said. Inside, it had an X-ray room, CT room, intensive-care unit and laboratory. Each ward was equipped with its own bathrooms. Within two months, it admitted one-seventh of the Sars patients in the country and was hailed as a "miracle in the history of medicine" by the country's media.
According to Mr Huang, the hospital was "quietly abandoned after the epidemic ended".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51245156

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that China has been more transparent in the outbreak of the novel coronavirus outbreak than it was in the 2003 SARS outbreak but that U.S. officials are still getting their information through Chinese press briefings rather than from shared scientific data. He noted that China’s health minister, Ma Xiaowei, said Sunday that the virus could be transmitted by an infected person even before symptoms appear. Fauci said he wished China would allow U.S. and international research teams to travel to China to see what’s happening directly.

“We really need to know what is the scientific basis of saying the virus is spread by someone who doesn’t have any symptoms,” Fauci told The Washington Post. “That was a major potential game-changer that gets spoken to us in a press briefing. We should have seen the data.” It matters, he said, because the United States is actively screening people who travel from China. “If people can be transmitting and infecting without any symptoms, that has a major impact on how you screen people,” he added.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/co ... story.html
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention raised its travel warning Monday to a level 3, its highest alert level, urging U.S. citizens to avoid all nonessential travel to China because of the coronavirus outbreak. The warning says those who travel should avoid all contact with sick people, animal markets and products that come from animals. It advises travelers to wash hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. Older adults and travelers with underlying health issues may be at risk for more severe effects of the disease and should discuss travel with their health-care provider, the agency said.

The warning also advises people who have traveled to China in the last 14 days and feel sick with fever, cough, or have difficulty breathing to seek medical care right away. Before going to a doctor’s office or emergency room, those people are advised to call ahead and tell them about recent travel and symptoms.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/co ... story.html

...the Chinese government has strengthened its control over the flow of information since the time of Sars. Some international scientists have estimated the true number of people impacted by the new coronavirus is far higher than has been publicly confirmed.

Steve Tsang, director of the Soas [School of Oriental and African Studies] China Institute in London, told the BBC he became aware of rumours circulating about a new virus in Wuhan several weeks ago - well before the first cases were confirmed on 31 December. Local officials may have been very nervous to be the ones to raise the alarm, he said.

"President Xi Jinping pays a lot more attention to the international image of China than his predecessors, and he has concentrated much more power than his predecessors," Mr Tsang said.

"Therefore anything that could potentially have a negative impact on the international image of China becomes sensitive."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51221394
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Germany is reporting its first case of human to human transmission.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/liv ... ve-updates

Still watching this with interest but haven't done any "prepping," so to speak, so keeping my anxiety in check. ;)

With regard to the Chinese hospital, it's amazing what humans can accomplish when working without the rules imposed by environmental and worker safety regulations. Not saying it's right, but is potentially possible.

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featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:01 am Still watching this with interest but haven't done any "prepping," so to speak, so keeping my anxiety in check. ;)
That's the right attitude. It's concerning because it's a new virus, influenza, measles...we know a lot about those viruses and even Ebola because experts are allowed in those countries during epidemics. This is new, it's spreading in a police state that isn't sharing a lot of information and people are traveling overseas. The mayor of Wuhan was quoted as saying that 5 million people have left Wuhan, China. CDC has said it's monitoring 110 potential cases in the US and one report said that the AZ case was a member of the Arizona State University community who was in quarantine at home.

CDC
For the general American public, who are unlikely to be exposed to this virus, the immediate health risk from 2019-nCoV is considered low.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/summary.html
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featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:01 am Germany is reporting its first case of human to human transmission.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/liv ... ve-updates

Still watching this with interest but haven't done any "prepping," so to speak, so keeping my anxiety in check. ;)

With regard to the Chinese hospital, it's amazing what humans can accomplish when working without the rules imposed by environmental and worker safety regulations. Not saying it's right, but is potentially possible.
It’s unclear how long those hospitals have been in the design build process. I seriously doubt anyone is building one in a few weeks. Materials do not cure that fast or reach structural integrity in that short a period. It’s BS. These projects have been in the building process for months if they are expected to be finished in two weeks. More media hype and mangling of information. As for permits, government building probably have exemptions for certain requirements, they do here as well.
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sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:12 pm
featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:01 am Germany is reporting its first case of human to human transmission.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/liv ... ve-updates

Still watching this with interest but haven't done any "prepping," so to speak, so keeping my anxiety in check. ;)

With regard to the Chinese hospital, it's amazing what humans can accomplish when working without the rules imposed by environmental and worker safety regulations. Not saying it's right, but is potentially possible.
It’s unclear how long those hospitals have been in the design build process. I seriously doubt anyone is building one in a few weeks. Materials do not cure that fast or reach structural integrity in that short a period. It’s BS. These projects have been in the building process for months if they are expected to be finished in two weeks. More media hype and mangling of information. As for permits, government building probably have exemptions for certain requirements, they do here as well.
Yeah, a week is probably a stretch, but a couple of weeks for a shell and then a couple more weeks to outfit isn't out of the realm of possibilities. 2-3 years here, just for construction (add another 10 at the front end for planning, design, environmental review and permitting). Cut out environmental regs, NIMBY battles, bidding, change orders, worker regs, etc. and you can get stuff done. At the expense of losing some workers and a building falling over here and there. :wtf:

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featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:47 pm
sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:12 pm
featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:01 am Germany is reporting its first case of human to human transmission.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/liv ... ve-updates

Still watching this with interest but haven't done any "prepping," so to speak, so keeping my anxiety in check. ;)

With regard to the Chinese hospital, it's amazing what humans can accomplish when working without the rules imposed by environmental and worker safety regulations. Not saying it's right, but is potentially possible.
It’s unclear how long those hospitals have been in the design build process. I seriously doubt anyone is building one in a few weeks. Materials do not cure that fast or reach structural integrity in that short a period. It’s BS. These projects have been in the building process for months if they are expected to be finished in two weeks. More media hype and mangling of information. As for permits, government building probably have exemptions for certain requirements, they do here as well.
Yeah, a week is probably a stretch, but a couple of weeks for a shell and then a couple more weeks to outfit isn't out of the realm of possibilities. 2-3 years here, just for construction (add another 10 at the front end for planning, design, environmental review and permitting). Cut out environmental regs, NIMBY battles, bidding, change orders, worker regs, etc. and you can get stuff done. At the expense of losing some workers and a building falling over here and there. :wtf:
Kellog, Brown and Root can construct buildings of plywood in dazzlingly short amounts of time in conflict zones.
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featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:47 pm
sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:12 pm
featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:01 am Germany is reporting its first case of human to human transmission.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/liv ... ve-updates

Still watching this with interest but haven't done any "prepping," so to speak, so keeping my anxiety in check. ;)

With regard to the Chinese hospital, it's amazing what humans can accomplish when working without the rules imposed by environmental and worker safety regulations. Not saying it's right, but is potentially possible.
It’s unclear how long those hospitals have been in the design build process. I seriously doubt anyone is building one in a few weeks. Materials do not cure that fast or reach structural integrity in that short a period. It’s BS. These projects have been in the building process for months if they are expected to be finished in two weeks. More media hype and mangling of information. As for permits, government building probably have exemptions for certain requirements, they do here as well.
Yeah, a week is probably a stretch, but a couple of weeks for a shell and then a couple more weeks to outfit isn't out of the realm of possibilities. 2-3 years here, just for construction (add another 10 at the front end for planning, design, environmental review and permitting). Cut out environmental regs, NIMBY battles, bidding, change orders, worker regs, etc. and you can get stuff done. At the expense of losing some workers and a building falling over here and there. :wtf:
It takes 28 days for concrete to reach it’s design strength. No way. If you’re idea of a hospital is the equivalent of a tent city, perhaps. But then you really don’t need earth moving equipment unless your intent is to be able to fill a huge hole at the end of the need.
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Mason wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:56 pm
featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:47 pm
sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:12 pm
featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:01 am Germany is reporting its first case of human to human transmission.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/liv ... ve-updates

Still watching this with interest but haven't done any "prepping," so to speak, so keeping my anxiety in check. ;)

With regard to the Chinese hospital, it's amazing what humans can accomplish when working without the rules imposed by environmental and worker safety regulations. Not saying it's right, but is potentially possible.
It’s unclear how long those hospitals have been in the design build process. I seriously doubt anyone is building one in a few weeks. Materials do not cure that fast or reach structural integrity in that short a period. It’s BS. These projects have been in the building process for months if they are expected to be finished in two weeks. More media hype and mangling of information. As for permits, government building probably have exemptions for certain requirements, they do here as well.
Yeah, a week is probably a stretch, but a couple of weeks for a shell and then a couple more weeks to outfit isn't out of the realm of possibilities. 2-3 years here, just for construction (add another 10 at the front end for planning, design, environmental review and permitting). Cut out environmental regs, NIMBY battles, bidding, change orders, worker regs, etc. and you can get stuff done. At the expense of losing some workers and a building falling over here and there. :wtf:
Kellog, Brown and Root can construct buildings of plywood in dazzlingly short amounts of time in conflict zones.
Temporary buildings at best and even they require advanced planning and material staging prior to need.
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sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:15 pm It takes 28 days for concrete to reach it’s design strength. No way. If you’re idea of a hospital is the equivalent of a tent city, perhaps. But then you really don’t need earth moving equipment unless your intent is to be able to fill a huge hole at the end of the need.
True. My point is more that China can get shit done at a spectacular rate compared to the US. Prior to environmental and worker regs, the US built the Hover Dam in 5 years and the Golden Gate Bridge in 4 (no idea how long the engineering took). There are workers buried in the cured concrete. If we tried to do similar now, the project would never get past the environmental review stage.

If China wants to build a hospital, it's going to throw the resources at it to do so. It might take a few months more than 5 days, but it's not going to take years.

We're way off topic. I yield. :lol:

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featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:25 pm
sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:15 pm It takes 28 days for concrete to reach it’s design strength. No way. If you’re idea of a hospital is the equivalent of a tent city, perhaps. But then you really don’t need earth moving equipment unless your intent is to be able to fill a huge hole at the end of the need.
True. My point is more that China can get shit done at a spectacular rate compared to the US. Prior to environmental and worker regs, the US built the Hover Dam in 5 years and the Golden Gate Bridge in 4 (no idea how long the engineering took). There are workers buried in the cured concrete. If we tried to do similar now, the project would never get past the environmental review stage.

If China wants to build a hospital, it's going to throw the resources at it to do so. It might take a few months more than 5 days, but it's not going to take years.

We're way off topic. I yield. :lol:
Perhaps my point is not clear. They are building temporary facilities to quarantine all the cases of this outbreak. That is not going to be a permanent hospital. It’s a fabric covered holding area at best. I doubt this facility is going to do much curing at all, it’s function is containment. That’s a far cry from a “hospital”, as in a functioning building. The Chinese can not change the dynamics of building or how materials cure, or reduce design build times. They can piece together preprepared construction elements, temporary buildings and piece them together with fabric tent cover and call it a “hospital “.
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sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:51 pm
featureless wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:25 pm
sikacz wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:15 pm It takes 28 days for concrete to reach it’s design strength. No way. If you’re idea of a hospital is the equivalent of a tent city, perhaps. But then you really don’t need earth moving equipment unless your intent is to be able to fill a huge hole at the end of the need.
True. My point is more that China can get shit done at a spectacular rate compared to the US. Prior to environmental and worker regs, the US built the Hover Dam in 5 years and the Golden Gate Bridge in 4 (no idea how long the engineering took). There are workers buried in the cured concrete. If we tried to do similar now, the project would never get past the environmental review stage.

If China wants to build a hospital, it's going to throw the resources at it to do so. It might take a few months more than 5 days, but it's not going to take years.

We're way off topic. I yield. :lol:
Perhaps my point is not clear. They are building temporary facilities to quarantine all the cases of this outbreak. That is not going to be a permanent hospital. It’s a fabric covered holding area at best. I doubt this facility is going to do much curing at all, it’s function is containment.
Got it now. Dense, am I.

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Scientists in Australia have become the first to recreate the new coronavirus outside of China in what they have called a "significant breakthrough".

The discovery will be shared with the World Health Organization (WHO) in the hope it may help efforts to find to diagnose and treat the virus.
There are at least 47 cases confirmed in 15 other countries, including in Thailand, France, the US and Australia. No deaths have been reported outside China.
Researchers at a specialist lab in Melbourne, Australia, said they were able to grow a copy of the virus from an infected patient. The sample was sent to them last Friday.

"We've planned for an incident like this for many, many years and that's really why we were able to get an answer so quickly," said Dr Mike Catton of the Peter Doherty Institute for Infection and Immunity.
Doctors said the copy could be used as "control material" for testing and "will be a game changer for diagnosis". That could involve an early-diagnosis test which could detect the virus in people who have not displayed symptoms.
"An antibody test will enable us to retrospectively test suspected patients so we can gather a more accurate picture of how widespread the virus is, and consequently, among other things, the true mortality rate," said Dr Catton. "It will also assist in the assessment of effectiveness of trial vaccines."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51289897

Misinformation is running rampant. One conspiracy I saw said that the virus escaped from China's highest level lab which is in Wuhan and holds the worlds deadliest diseases. No evidence just rumors.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-51271037


Interview with top US health officials.
The four officials — HHS Secretary Alex Azar; CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield; Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases; and Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases — stressed that the situation is fluid but outlined what is known and still unknown about the virus.
The CDC has already created a diagnostic test, although public health officials are working on faster tests that can be widely disseminated to hospitals so patients can be rapidly diagnosed. Fauci said a vaccine could start human trials in as little as three months, but that’s just the first step in a longer journey to establishing that the vaccine is safe and effective. He noted that it’s possible the outbreak could end before a vaccine is available, but “we are proceeding as if we will have to deploy a vaccine.”

New drugs will take longer to develop, although there are already studies underway based on drugs that were tested earlier for SARS and MERS, which are also coronaviruses. Other compounds are being screened to see if they can target this virus. (There are drugs that can help treat pneumonia symptoms and support seriously ill patients, but that’s not the same thing as a cure for this virus.) Azar said the HHS branch responsible for emergency preparedness and response is assessing whether the Strategic National Stockpile, the largest national repository of emergency treatments, has adequate medical supplies.
China has said there “may be evidence” of asymptomatic transmission but U.S. scientists want to get a better look at that data. That's one big reason Redfield said the U.S. wants to get CDC experts on the ground in China.

“We’re watching closely,” for such transmission, Messonnier said. Fauci also emphasized that even if there is some transmission among people not experiencing symptoms, everything scientists know about coronaviruses strongly suggests that it would not be what propels an epidemic. “The driver of outbreaks is always a symptomatic person,” Fauci said “An epidemic is not driven by asymptomatic carriers.”
Another unanswered question. China has reported 4,500 cases and slightly more than 100 deaths. That’s a high mortality rate, but we don't know if the reported cases are an accurate representation of the outbreak. It's possible there are many more people with far milder cases — so mild that they haven’t even gone to seek treatment. In that case, the fatality rate would be much lower.

Azar said our perception of the virus can be skewed by these earliest cases, since we're looking at the sickest subset of people who have been exposed. “One challenge is that, with an emerging virus like this, our current assessments are based on an uncertain denominator,” he said. Early reports also indicate that patients who are most at risk of severe disease or death are older or have other health conditions.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/2 ... lth-108197

There is a report that China will allow World Health Organization into the country.
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highdesert wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:47 pm
...stressed that the situation is fluid...
I see what they did there. :lol:

Standing up a copy of a pre-planned, pre-tested, and pre-fab building doesn't require anywhere near the time it takes to start from scratch, especially in the US. Military stuff can go up quickly because they've done it many times before and have the process down to 'a science'. I saw a building go up quickly in S Korea as well - prefab reinforced cement walls, floor panels, etc. means the shell goes up really quickly with a crane. If China has prefab modules that are pre-wired and pre-plumbed, it might be nothing more that 'planting' some 'cubes' and making utility connections to the outside.

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Got a call from a "conservative" friend about this--he called on the old iPhone I keep for when my wife is travelling on United (texting doesn't work--iMessaging does). Since 99.9% of calls I get on that phone are spam, and I didn't recognize his #, I hung up when he wouldn't say who he was (asshole!) Then he called on my Android which has his name attached.
He was hung up on this, claiming that 21% of the code in the virus doesn't fit, like it's been engineered--and there's a genetic research institute in Wuhan. So....can you say "CONSPIRACY!!!!!"? I knew you could!
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AndyH wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:05 pm I saw a building go up quickly in S Korea as well - prefab reinforced cement walls, floor panels, etc. means the shell goes up really quickly with a crane. If China has prefab modules that are pre-wired and pre-plumbed, it might be nothing more that 'planting' some 'cubes' and making utility connections to the outside.
An earlier report I read, might even be on this thread said it would be constructed from pre-fab modules.
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highdesert wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:39 pm
AndyH wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:05 pm I saw a building go up quickly in S Korea as well - prefab reinforced cement walls, floor panels, etc. means the shell goes up really quickly with a crane. If China has prefab modules that are pre-wired and pre-plumbed, it might be nothing more that 'planting' some 'cubes' and making utility connections to the outside.
An earlier report I read, might even be on this thread said it would be constructed from pre-fab modules.
I think that's what I remembered. I wondered how the following posters appeared to forget that. ;)

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featureless wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:46 pm Fun site out of John Hopkins if you want to watch it spread.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6

This could be bad. Doing my upmost best to not get agitated. Don't want CDFingers to have to put my hair out. :lol:
every day i check this link and every day for the last few it's been another thousand infected, but i think it's picking up speed the last day or two.
i'm retired. what's your excuse?

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lurker wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:29 am
featureless wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:46 pm Fun site out of John Hopkins if you want to watch it spread.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6

This could be bad. Doing my upmost best to not get agitated. Don't want CDFingers to have to put my hair out. :lol:
every day i check this link and every day for the last few it's been another thousand infected, but i think it's picking up speed the last day or two.
I've also been watching the JHU site, it's very visual. Researchers at the Laboratory for the Modeling of Biological+Socio-technical Systems at Northeastern University (Boston) have like Imperial College London come up with an estimate of the number of people infected in the catchment area.
By using the cases detected outside China we are providing estimates of size of the Wuhan outbreak as of January 27th, 2020.​ By using an estimate of 10 days from exposure to detection and an effective population of 20 million people in Wuhan catchment area the estimated median size of the Wuhan outbreak is 26,200 infections [95% CI: 19,200-34,800].
https://www.mobs-lab.org/2019ncov.html

The first cases in the Middle East.
The first cases of the deadly coronavirus in the Middle East have been confirmed in the United Arab Emirates, the country’s Ministry of Health and Community Protection said in a statement Wednesday.

The infected patients are four members of a family that had traveled from Wuhan, China...
In its statement, the health ministry reported the family as being in a stable condition under medical observation. Health authorities in the U.S. say the fatality rate for the respiratory disease is currently between 2% and 3%.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/29/first-m ... e-uae.html

A plane carrying about 201 U.S. citizens evacuated from Wuhan, China – the epicenter of the deadly coronavirus – landed in the U.S. on Tuesday night to refuel in Alaska before it took off for California. The plane is en route to California’s March Air Reserve Base “for the logistics that they have,” an official said.

The Boeing 747 with red and gold stripes and no passenger windows was initially headed to Ontario International Airport in California. It landed in Alaska at Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport on Tuesday night, was refueled and took off for California. Every passenger passed the screenings. “The whole plane erupted in cheers when the crew said, ‘Welcome home to the United States,’" Alaska’s Chief Medical Officer Dr. Anne Zink said.

Curt Hagman, the chairman of the San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors – where the Ontario Airport is located – and a commissioner at the airport, said on social media that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had informed him of its decision to divert the flight to the air base. "Ontario International is one of the repatriation airports for the west coast and we are always prepared to receive our citizens abroad in times of emergencies," Hagman said in a video posted to his YouTube channel. "We were prepared but the state department decided to switch the flight to March Air Force Base for logistics that they have."
The individuals on board the flight were set to be screened before take off, monitored during the flight by medical personnel and screened again when the plane landed at a fueling stop in Anchorage, Alaska.

"[The passengers would be] monitored on the last leg of the flight by medical personnel on board; evaluated upon arrival at March Air Reserve Base in Riverside County, California; and then monitored for symptoms post-arrival," the CDC added.

The lobby in the international terminal of the Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport was nearly empty Tuesday afternoon, and an airport employee was seen jogging through though the facility that has closed counters for companies like Korean Air, China Airlines and Asiana Airlines.

Because the terminal is only active in the summer, it allows the airport to practice situations such as this one. "In the wintertime, we have the ability and the luxury of not having any passenger traffic over there, so it's a perfect area for us to handle this kind of flight," said Jim Szczesniak, manager of the airport.
Ontario International Airport was designated about a decade ago by the U.S. government to receive repatriated Americans in case of an emergency overseas but it would have been the first time the facility was used for the purpose, David Wert, spokesman for the county of San Bernardino said.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/plane-wi ... agman-says
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YankeeTarheel wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:15 pm Got a call from a "conservative" friend about this--he called on the old iPhone I keep for when my wife is travelling on United (texting doesn't work--iMessaging does). Since 99.9% of calls I get on that phone are spam, and I didn't recognize his #, I hung up when he wouldn't say who he was (asshole!) Then he called on my Android which has his name attached.
He was hung up on this, claiming that 21% of the code in the virus doesn't fit, like it's been engineered--and there's a genetic research institute in Wuhan. So....can you say "CONSPIRACY!!!!!"? I knew you could!
I am guessing that the anti-vaccine and anti-immigration conspiracy theories out there will soon be parroted by the WH just in time for 2020. Caravans and all that will come back this summer and fall, I bet.
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No doubt that Trump or his minions will do just that.

Now we are also seeing the wackos of QAnon saying the bleach solution they have will cure the Corona virus. You are to mix it with water and drink it. It is chlorine dioxide. Not good for your health. Just need to say to them drink your Kool-Aide
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