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If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:51 pm
by SpaceRanger42
If this tax works in Tacoma you can bet that someone is going to try it in Seattle.
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/loc ... 03263.html

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:22 pm
by DispositionMatrix
Money from the taxes, estimated at $30,000 annually, would go toward funding programs that “promote public safety, prevent gun violence and help offset the impacts and costs of gun violence in the city,” according to the proposal.
https://cityoftacoma.legistar.com/Legis ... s=&Search=
...to impose a tax on firearms and ammunition to consist of $25.00 per firearm sold at retail, $0.02 per round of ammunition .22 caliber or less, and $0.05 per round of other ammunition sold at retail to raise revenue for funding programs that promote public safety, prevent gun violence, and help offset the impacts and costs of gun violence in the City.
What are those "programs" specifically?

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:35 pm
by SpaceRanger42
Keep in mind that tax is on top of the existing tax ($40 per firearm) and the taxes implemented by I-1639 this last July. It's getting ridiculous. I would not object if the money went to paying for firearms education classes for the public, but you know that will never happen.

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:53 pm
by SpaceRanger42

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:33 pm
by khlavkalash
SpaceRanger42 wrote:Keep in mind that tax is on top of the existing tax ($40 per firearm) and the taxes implemented by I-1639 this last July. It's getting ridiculous. I would not object if the money went to paying for firearms education classes for the public, but you know that will never happen.
I did the math, it would be like a gun sold wholesale for $500 would be like $666 when it hits the consumer.

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:00 am
by K9s
Didn't I-1639 also define all semi-auto rifles as "assault weapons", too? Scary stuff.

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:01 pm
by SpaceRanger42
A run down on what 1639 dropped on us here in the Evergreen State.
https://www.atg.wa.gov/initiative-1639

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:08 pm
by K9s
It keeps mentioning "semiautomatic assault rifles" like it is a real thing. Are all semiautomatic rifles now called assault rifles there?

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:18 pm
by SpaceRanger42
The legislation specifically focused on semi automatic, ANY semi automatic rifle, even .22.
The whole campaign was run by big money from out of state. The signature gatherers were all brought in from California. The initial wave of people gathering signatures did so under false pretenses. They didn't even have "I-1639" on the paper work. All based on the threat of semi auto rifles to the community. WA has had exactly seven instances of mass shooting that used a rifle since 1907. Two were labor riots using bolt guns. Three were gang related so don't technically meet the criteria of a mass shooting. One was a rifle, a lever action rifle. And one instance was with a Ruger 10/22 just a couple of years ago used essentially like a hand gun.

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:19 pm
by lurker
yes, especially if it has a removable box magazine, but yes. semiauto pistols too. they ARE coming for your garand and c96.

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:45 pm
by K9s
Garand was a weapon of war at one time, I guess. Next on the ban list: The Muzzleloading Assault Rifle! A true "militia" weapon.

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Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:53 pm
by lurker
practically all of my guns are "weapons of war" or copies thereof.

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:42 pm
by K9s
lurker wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:53 pm practically all of my guns are "weapons of war" or copies thereof.
And awesome looking ones, at that.

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:55 pm
by lurker
:see_stars: i'm becoming that "come and take them" guy i used to laugh and point at. :crazy:

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:05 pm
by senorgrand
Doubling the price of 22? That's some bs.

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:46 pm
by featureless
lurker wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:55 pm :see_stars: i'm becoming that "come and take them" guy i used to laugh and point at. :crazy:
It's getting hard not to be that guy. Common sense has played out into ridiculous, just as the slippery slope guy predicted.

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:24 pm
by willa1975
They already have the tax in Seattle. It’s ridiculous.

They probably lost more money on sales taxes from FFLs leaving town and people going to Renton, Bellevue or Lynnwood to buy their guns and ammo than they brought in from tax itself.

Nothing more than pointless grandstanding.


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Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:49 pm
by K9s
If you can't ban it, tax it, I guess.

I hope this tax doesn't catch on around the country. Of course, I guess I am happy with what I have now and glad I bought what I wanted when prices dropped after the last panic. Prices are high and will go higher, anyway.

Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:32 pm
by willa1975
Precise Shooter moved out of Seattle in response to the tax and actually sold more guns to Seattle residents that year than they did in the year before the tax was passed.

At the end of the day, all this is really about is “guns are bad.”


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Re: If this works in Tacoma

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:13 pm
by SpaceRanger42
Willa you are not wrong.