https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
How can Republicans defend him? Cognitive dissonance? Plain partisan insanity? I just don't get it. When will they think of our country first?
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2Short answer - NEVER!!!
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made by USA was electing DJT as POTUS - TWICE!!!!!
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made by USA was electing DJT as POTUS - TWICE!!!!!
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3Because it's not about being consistent or having any kind of real morals or values at all. It's about winning at all costs. Trump lies very often, but we all know when he's telling the truth, and when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any supporters, he was telling the truth.wpkato wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
How can Republicans defend him? Cognitive dissonance? Plain partisan insanity? I just don't get it. When will they think of our country first?
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The thing is, a large percentage of conservatives have hitched their entire worldview to this man at this point. This is way worse than Nixon. They won't accept any level or multitude of hard evidence at this point, not that many of them ever did (looking at evangelicals).
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4I hang out on a number of forums that are populated by "normal" gun owners. Needless to say they are populated mostly by Trump supporters to the point they gang bang anyone who even dares suggest that Trump is destroying the Country. Virtually to a man, their greatest joy and reason for continued support is that Trump has Liberals and The Left gnashing their teeth and losing their minds.
Their whole reason is that Trump is destroying America and his hate and arrogance will continue to cause "liberal tears" for decades. This concept alone gets him millions of supporters....people who's only goal is to see Obama supporters and Liberals punished and grieving. They are Sociopaths and feed on grief and destruction of anything that does not promote the continued control by the Angry White Male. They are being displaced by people of color, women, and many others they deem as unworthy so they seek to destroy everything Progressives want.
VooDoo
Their whole reason is that Trump is destroying America and his hate and arrogance will continue to cause "liberal tears" for decades. This concept alone gets him millions of supporters....people who's only goal is to see Obama supporters and Liberals punished and grieving. They are Sociopaths and feed on grief and destruction of anything that does not promote the continued control by the Angry White Male. They are being displaced by people of color, women, and many others they deem as unworthy so they seek to destroy everything Progressives want.
VooDoo
Tyrants disarm the people they intend to oppress. Hope is not a Plan.
Dot 'em if ya got 'em!
Dot 'em if ya got 'em!
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5It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
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6For any of Trump's impeachable acts, the fact that you can interchange any warm body for Trump and the right wing would jump all over them for any number of reasons (overstepping power, abuse of power, actions just plain illegal, take your pick) is just mind boggling.
The fact that Trump can do no wrong, literally, to the Republican base is just damaging to their party but to the country as a whole...how can we take them seriously after this presidency?
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The fact that Trump can do no wrong, literally, to the Republican base is just damaging to their party but to the country as a whole...how can we take them seriously after this presidency?
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7It is not your imagination — partisanship really does affect the way we understand evidence of a scandal and how we interpret that evidence. You can see that in the polls that came out this week, which show sharp divides between Democrats who overwhelmingly support impeachment proceedings and Republicans who overwhelmingly oppose them. You can also see it in the comments of politicians — while Democrats see obvious malfeasance in Trump’s pressuring the Ukrainian president to look into the Bidens, Republicans have called the conversation a “nothingburger” that Democrats are hyping as an excuse to reach a foregone conclusion. And while partisanship isn’t the only thing that creates those dueling realities, experts say it’s the biggest factor. And it probably matters more now than it did in the past.
There are many different personal factors that affect how people evaluate the evidence for or against a political scandal and what they think should be done about it. Gender — both the politician’s and the voters’ — is one example, said Nick Vivyan, a politics professor at the U.K.’s Durham University. He’s found evidence that female voters have more of an interest in punishing female politicians’ who misbehave, compared to how those same voters treat men. Male voters are also more likely to treat male politicians more leniently than they treat female ones. (This is just one of many structural reinforcements that makes the glass ceiling of politics so hard for American women to crack through.)
External social and political context also affect whether a scandal sticks and what impact it has. When Brendan Nyhan, professor of government at Dartmouth, studied Washington Post coverage of presidential scandals between 1977 and 2008, he found that controversies became news faster and were covered more extensively when presidents had lower approval ratings among opposition voters and when there was simply less happening in the news to distract the reporters.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... nt-things/Since 1980, our average feelings about “the other guys” have become significantly chilly — falling from around 50 to around 25 points on the 100-point scale. In fact, almost all the significant increase in affective polarization is due to an increased dislike of the other side and not, say, an increased preference for your own side.
That kind of emotional partisanship matters for scandals because it increases the likelihood of motivated reasoning — basically upping our tendency to not want to hear things that contradict our previously held beliefs. In the case of politics, that means finding reasons why the other side’s scandals are a very big deal and/or finding reasons why our own preferred party’s scandals are not.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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8Just seems like the Republican party as a whole is waging a gaslighting campaign to protect the President. (Nothing here...let's move on)
Anybody with half a brain or thimble full of critical thinking skills would see it
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Anybody with half a brain or thimble full of critical thinking skills would see it
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9https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-sen-r ... fbi-or-cia
Sen. Ron Johnson (WI) just embarrassed himself and the institution on MTP covering for Trump
Watched it live, just cringe-worthy
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Sen. Ron Johnson (WI) just embarrassed himself and the institution on MTP covering for Trump
Watched it live, just cringe-worthy
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10Don't wait for it. Be the citizen you want to be living in your country, eh.
CDFingers
CDFingers
Neoliberals are cowards