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Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:00 pm
by TrueTexan
The FBI and the Senate Reptilians are responsible for withholding evidence of sexual misconduct during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings.
A new report reveals that Deborah Ramirez, a woman who claims Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her while she was a student at Yale University, may have had evidence to corroborate her story — but that Republicans created a process which would stifle her account so that Kavanaugh could be confirmed.

This article first appeared in Salon.

Deborah Ramirez, who alleged that she was assaulted by Kavanaugh at a Yale party when she was an underclassman, had her legal team provide the F.B.I. with a list of at least 25 people who could have had evidence to corroborate her story, but the bureau ultimately interviewed none of them, according to The New York Times. The publication also learned that many of the individuals who could have corroborated Ramirez’s story attempted to reach the F.B.I. on their own but were unable to do so.

According to The New York Times, Ramirez claims to have been sexually assaulted by Kavanaugh during a dormitory party when she was a freshman at the Ivy League school.

During the winter of her freshman year, a drunken dormitory party unsettled her deeply. She and some classmates had been drinking heavily when, she says, a freshman named Brett Kavanaugh pulled down his pants and thrust his penis at her, prompting her to swat it away and inadvertently touch it. Some of the onlookers, who had been passing around a fake penis earlier in the evening, laughed.

The Times adds that “at least seven people, including Ms. Ramirez’s mother, heard about the Yale incident long before Mr. Kavanaugh was a federal judge. Two of those people were classmates who learned of it just days after the party occurred, suggesting that it was discussed among students at the time.”

There is also a report that Ramirez was not the only Yale student toward whom Kavanaugh allegedly behaved in a similar fashion. One classmate named Max Stier, who now runs a nonprofit organization in Washington D.C., said that he saw Kavanaugh pull his pants down at a different party and allowed friends to push his penis into the hands of a female student. Although Stier is reported to have informed both members of the Senate and the F.B.I. about what he witnessed, the bureau did not investigate.

According to the Times’ reporting, the bureau’s inactivity was caused by the stringent rules imposed on them by the Republican-controlled Senate, which was determined to confirm Kavanaugh.

Two F.B.I. agents interviewed Ms. Ramirez, telling her that they found her “credible.” But the Republican-controlled Senate had imposed strict limits on the investigation. “‘We have to wait to get authorization to do anything else,’” Bill Pittard, one of Ms. Ramirez’s lawyers, recalled the agents saying. “It was almost a little apologetic.”

Former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julián Castro called for an investigation, tweeting that “Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation is a shame to the Supreme Court. This latest allegation of assault must be investigated.”

The New York Times itself has come under fire for a tweet promoting the article which described “having a penis thrust in your face at a drunken dorm party” as potentially seeming “like harmless fun.” The publication later deleted the tweet and apologized, writing that “we deleted a previous tweet regarding this article. It was offensive, and we apologize.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/republ ... firmation/

Is there any part of the federal government that has not become tainted with misconduct during the Trump Reptilian administration?

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:46 pm
by highdesert
Kavanaugh got confirmed, pursuing this only hurts Democrats it's history. Castro is running for the Dem nomination, he'll say anything for media attention and the media will follow it because it's gotten to the point where a bird shitting on the WH lawn is news to the media.

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:14 pm
by max129
highdesert said:

pursuing this only hurts Democrats [-] it's history
I agree 100%. This is not going to happen, and it makes for more stupid news.

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:58 pm
by Marlene
the time to impeach him is when it is not the current administration that gets to nominate his replacement

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:23 pm
by Maccabee
Marlene wrote:the time to impeach him is when it is not the current administration that gets to nominate his replacement
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Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:54 am
by K9s
At some point, redress for the McConnell actions have to occur. Future generations shouldn't have to suffer because of his antidemocratic maneuvering.

The GOP has changed SCOTUS to 8 members to gain a seat (see Merrick Garland), they have impeached and replaced State Supreme Court judges to install their own partisan hacks (see WV https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... rt/574495/), they lie & cheat to retain control of state power (see NC & WI), etc. They hate constitutional democracy and destroy it where they can.

What is the alternative to letting them game the system and siphon off tax money to themselves?

Mass judge impeachments and replacement are my preferred move for the courts. Not very "Democratic" but these judges were not "confirmed" by a Senate 60-vote majority, they are mostly unqualified hacks, and the people/nation/country shouldn't have to put up with this s**t anymore.

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:31 pm
by featureless
According to CNN, the lady at the center of the allegations (not made by her) doesn't remember the alleged event ever happening. This type of shit does not help anybody. Gotcha news....

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEE ... id=US%3Aen

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:10 pm
by highdesert
featureless wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:31 pm According to CNN, the lady at the center of the allegations (not made by her) doesn't remember the alleged event ever happening. This type of shit does not help anybody. Gotcha news....

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEE ... id=US%3Aen
The premise of that whole book belongs in a cheap tabloid, not the NY Times Book Review. Another example of the #MeToo era, allegations without evidence. This is like the Obama Birther conspiracy, it never ends.

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:41 am
by TrueTexan
The house should at least investigate the reasons why the FBI didn’t investigate the witnesses . As for impeachment we can forget it as Looney Lindsey Graham has already sworn to kill it before it happens.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lindsey ... 69059d69ae

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:39 am
by highdesert
The House already has Trump investigations that are moving at a snails pace and other oversight such as an investigation of the Acting DNI. Democrats on the Kavanaugh issue are so much like Republicans on HRC's e-mails, it's never over.

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:27 am
by DMac
This always seemed like a fishing expedition. Some people said he did some things decades ago, but no one can actually remember much about it.

I'm not even sure what basis there is for Impeachment. This smells more like payback for Merrick Garland

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:19 pm
by Marlene
You guys are disgusting

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:57 pm
by DMac

Marlene wrote:You guys are disgusting
I'm sorry, is there something I'm missing? Granted, I haven't been paying much attention to this, but hasn't this already been investigated?

Since when do accusations with no evidence meet the burden for Impeachment?

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:54 pm
by Marlene
You definitely aren’t paying attention

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:57 pm
by K9s
Marlene wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:54 pm You definitely aren’t paying attention
I thought I was the only one feeling that way here.

Is the rule of law just an inconvenience now? Is it all now a reality TV show?

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:59 pm
by K9s
DMac wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:57 pm
Marlene wrote:You guys are disgusting
I'm sorry, is there something I'm missing? Granted, I haven't been paying much attention to this, but hasn't this already been investigated?

Since when do accusations with no evidence meet the burden for Impeachment?
I heard some Senator claim crap like this. Of course, that same Senator spouts off about investigating Uranium One, Benghazi, and "her emails" with no proof.

Accusations are investigated. No one ever said accusations equal impeachment (except the GOP and Hannity).

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:22 pm
by DMac

K9s wrote:
DMac wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:57 pm
Marlene wrote:You guys are disgusting
I'm sorry, is there something I'm missing? Granted, I haven't been paying much attention to this, but hasn't this already been investigated?

Since when do accusations with no evidence meet the burden for Impeachment?
I heard some Senator claim crap like this. Of course, that same Senator spouts off about investigating Uranium One, Benghazi, and "her emails" with no proof.

Accusations are investigated. No one ever said accusations equal impeachment (except the GOP and Hannity).
Except Rep. Pressley was planning on releasing an Impeachment inquiry resolution today.

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:26 pm
by max129
Oh, I think this is really big deal. If true, and the FBI did not interview a person referred by a Senator, this is a serious problem.

But, I am with Marlene on the timing. If they impeach now, and succeed, Trump gets to fill the empty spot.

I think this is the one situation where the Dems should make a LOT of noise and then do nothing (now). But someone needs to have the case ready for after the next inauguration.

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:22 pm
by Marlene
DMac wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:22 pm
K9s wrote:
DMac wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:57 pm
Marlene wrote:You guys are disgusting
I'm sorry, is there something I'm missing? Granted, I haven't been paying much attention to this, but hasn't this already been investigated?

Since when do accusations with no evidence meet the burden for Impeachment?
I heard some Senator claim crap like this. Of course, that same Senator spouts off about investigating Uranium One, Benghazi, and "her emails" with no proof.

Accusations are investigated. No one ever said accusations equal impeachment (except the GOP and Hannity).
Except Rep. Pressley was planning on releasing an Impeachment inquiry resolution today.
Reading is motherfucking fundamental.

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:08 pm
by DMac
I enjoy witty one-liners as much as the next person, but I forgot why I thought I cared about this thread, but I do remember why political arguments online are a time drain

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:55 pm
by Marlene
Yeah, all that paying attention and understanding can really wear a guy out. I’m sure.

Re: Time to investigate and impeach Kavanaugh

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:19 am
by YankeeTarheel
While of the 5, the only 2 that AFAIK (and that can be updated) pass ethical muster are Alito and Roberts. Thomas is not only a liar and a predator, he's also a miserably bad justice, bad at the job, bad at the law. Gorsuch, a clone of Alito, lied to get on the Court and was only too happy to steal Garland's spot. Kavanaugh, we know is a sexual predator and a liar, but judicially speaking, he's generally a better justice than Thomas, Alito, or Gorsuch, slightly less dogmatic and more flexible in his rulings so far. The 2nd Best of the Bad 5.

Still, he needs to be forced off the Court, the way Abe Fortas was back in 1968. The pressure needs to build but not enough to force him off before 21 Jan 21. Because he's still not as bad in his decisions as Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch, and any Trump pick will be like those 3--or worse.

Even if Trump, the Senate, and House all swing D in a landslide, if a Court opening happens after the Election, MoscowMitch will FORCE another Gorsuch/Kavanaugh on to the Court and have some nauseating, sickening, piece-of-shit justification why it's "different" than blocking Merrick Garland. And yet he won't be honest enough to say: "Tough shit! We don't give a shit about rules, precedent, decency, ethics, or morals. This is our last shot at POWER and we're taking it while we can, and to HELL with what it does to our Democratic Republic and toilet paper you call The Constitution!"
Because that's what he is thinking.