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"Holder cautions against potentially prosecuting Trump post presidency"
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:37 am
by highdesert
Former Attorney General Eric Holder predicted President Donald Trump may be prosecuted after his presidency if he doesn't first face impeachment proceedings while in office -- but warned of the possible risks to the nation.
The Obama-era attorney general's comments come as impeachment advocates hailed Thursday's Judiciary Committee's vote to formalize the rules of its investigation, though House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has avoided labeling the committee's probe as an impeachment inquiry. CNN "Axe Files" host David Axelrod asked Holder whether he thought Trump is subject to prosecution upon leaving office, Holder replied, "Well, I don't think there's any question about that."
Holder referenced former Trump attorney Michael Cohen's guilty plea last year to campaign finance violations tied to hush money payments he made or orchestrated on behalf of Trump. "We already have an indictment in the Southern District of New York where Michael Cohen (was charged) relative to the payoffs, Michael Cohen's already in jail with regard to his role there," Holder added, referencing court filings in the case referring to Trump as "Individual-1."
"It would seem to me that the next attorney general, the next president is going to have to make a determination," he added. Axelrod also asked Holder whether there would be a cost to prosecuting Trump post-presidency in the absence of impeachment proceedings, citing former President Gerald Ford opting to pardon his predecessor Richard Nixon. "Yes, I think there is a potential cost to the nation by putting on trial a former president, and that ought to at least be a part of the calculus that goes into the determination that has to be made by the next attorney general," Holder said.
"I think we all should understand what a trial of a former president would do to the nation, he added, acknowledging that Ford's decision may have cost him the 1976 election. Holder added, "But you know, I think looking back, I tend to think that that was probably the right thing to do." The former attorney general also reiterated his support for an impeachment inquiry. "I think that they should proceed with an impeachment inquiry, an impeachment investigation," he added. "That doesn't necessarily commit you to actually impeaching the President."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/14/politics ... index.html
Re: "Holder cautions against potentially prosecuting Trump post presidency"
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:25 am
by TrueTexan
There is a difference between Nixon and Trump. Nixon was pardoned for acts while in office and it was part of a plea deal to get him to resign. I didn't like the idea then, but it got hime out of office.
Trump is a different ball game. We are looking at crimes committed before he was elected and took office, also possible crimes committed while in office. Since the possibility of him resigning are null then should be tried and if convicted should continued to be housed at government expense in a luxury suite at Hotel GITMO.
By trial and conviction of a former president for crimes committed it assures the people tat no person is above the law. It is also a warning to those wanting to run for office for their personal gain.
Re: "Holder cautions against potentially prosecuting Trump post presidency"
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:49 am
by YankeeTarheel
One of the reasons you send criminals to jail is to protect society from their predations. And Trump is a predator, who will continue to prey on the weaker and the unknowing, as will his daughter and sons after him. If he's in prison his predator days are over.
The President of the United States cannot be above the law...that should finally, clearly be obvious now. Even the PMs of the UK and Israel are not above the law. Only dictators are.
Re: "Holder cautions against potentially prosecuting Trump post presidency"
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:27 am
by VodoundaVinci
I agree with YT - the guy belongs behind bars as an example that rich, powerful people are not exempt and above the law. I like the idea of not impeaching him now (because it's a waste of resources and the Republican Senate will protect him) and nailing him and his to the cross when he is (hopefully) ousted in 2020. Or 2024 if he retains the presidency. Hes a criminal and needs to be prosecuted.
Seeing him locked up would mitigate the pain of the last 3 years greatly for me.
VooDoo
Re: "Holder cautions against potentially prosecuting Trump post presidency"
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:35 pm
by YankeeTarheel
Holder should consider that the other side is currently trying to prosecute "enemies" starting with Andrew McCabe, there's talk of James Comey, and, of course, the ogre in the WH wants to prosecute Obama and Hillary Clinton, the former for making it obvious how incompetent and unpopular Trump is, the latter for challenging him and getting 3 million more votes.
Re: "Holder cautions against potentially prosecuting Trump post presidency"
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:15 am
by JohnNewell
I vote for Trump behind bars. Nixon was at least Presidential if an outlaw. Trump doesn't even care.