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Salon: "There is no 'good guy with a gun'"
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:43 am
by DispositionMatrix
The gun lobby's most pernicious myth: There is no "good guy with a gun"
The number of guns owned by civilians is an outrage, a profanity, a sign that this country has lost its collective mind. But not to the National Rifle Association it isn’t. Not to the Gun Owners of America, another major gun lobby organization with over two million members, which is frequently critical of the NRA for being too soft on gun rights. These well-funded lobbies for gun manufacturers and gun owners have long taken the position that what we need is more guns, not less. They say that more guns equal less crime, despite FBI statistics that show conclusively that violent crime, and especially crimes involving firearms, is higher per capita in areas of the country with more guns.
You need guns to defend yourself and your property, these groups tell us. If more people had more guns, criminals would be less likely to commit crimes because they wouldn’t know who was armed and ready to defend themselves.
Re: Salon:
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:26 am
by highdesert
Truscott even with his military background is an example of pure gun grabber emotion, the gun is the evil not the person. Never heard cars identified as evil but they've been used to mow down people. Simplistic belief that just getting rid of all guns will make mass killings disappear, it won't. The author's grandfather Lucian Truscott, Jr was a famous WWII general.
Re: Salon: "There is no 'good guy with a gun'"
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:22 am
by 7N6Wolf
There is no intellectually honest gun grabber.
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Re: Salon:
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:29 am
by SubRosa
The '58 Plymouth Christine was evil...
The Rover in 'The Gods Must Be Crazy' was the antichrist...
It spans the continents....
SR out
Re: Salon:
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:18 pm
by senorgrand
The number of guns owned by civilians is an outrage, a profanity
Yeah, no one is coming for your guns...
Re: Salon:
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:56 pm
by K9s
senorgrand wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:18 pm
The number of guns owned by civilians is an outrage, a profanity
Yeah, no one is coming for your guns...
*sigh*
Re: Salon:
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:10 am
by Marlene
I can get with this notion about no good guy with a gun, if we are talking about police.
Re: Salon:
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:16 am
by YankeeTarheel
I don't mind real ignorance, because that's fixable. But willful ignorance is unforgivable.
Re: Salon:
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:56 am
by VodoundaVinci
Faulty logic (to this degree) constitutes either stupidity or an agenda. Not ignorance.
VooDoo
Re: Salon:
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:43 am
by K9s
They might argue that they are pushing all the buttons to get Dems out to vote. I guess that is probably more likely. They really won't try to solve the problems, though.
Re: Salon:
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:52 am
by NegativeApproach
The anti-gun agenda is well-funded, and a money making machine that engages in the same tactics that they criticize the NRA for. I'd argue that the anti-gun propaganda is much more insidious and filled with untruth.
Take the term "gun violence" for example. They would have us believe that suicides are the same as mass shootings, are the same as gang murders.
They're not. They're individual problems, with much different root causes.
Re: Salon:
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:02 am
by featureless
Fuck you, Salon author.
Estimates for the prevalence of DGU span wide ranges and include high-end estimates—for instance, 2.5 million DGUs per year—that are not plausible given other information that is more trustworthy, such as the total number of U.S. residents who are injured or killed by guns each year. At the other extreme, the NCVS estimate of 116,000 DGU incidents per year almost certainly underestimates the true number.
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-polic ... n-use.html
It's difficult to know how many defensive gun uses there are annually. The link does a good job describing why. But the 116,000 per year is a fairly solid low-end estimate. So, defensive gun use would outweigh gun homicide by roughly 10:1. These defensive gun uses are, similar to typical gun homicide, not reported on by the media because they lack the spectacularly horrific blood splatters of a mass shooting. Particularly with respect to guns, the media has turned into nothing more than a Dexterized propaganda machine peddling miss-truths for profit and politics.