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San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:00 am
by VodoundaVinci
http://www.ktvu.com/news/ktvu-local-new ... ganization
SAN FRANCISCO (KTVU) - The city of San Francisco has formally adopted a resolution calling the National Rifle Association a domestic terrorist organization.

San Francisco's Board of Supervisors on Tuesday took the step of officially declaring the nation's premier gun-ownership advocates a terrorist organization.

District 2 Supervisor Catherine Stefani wrote the scathing declaration reading in part, "the National Rifle Association spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public about the dangers of gun violence."
So now I'm a member of a Terrorist Organization...in SF anyway. Good reason to never go there again as unfortunately I had to join the NRA to shoot at the local premier rifle range.

Gaad Help the USA.

VooDoo

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:05 am
by featureless
It amazes me that the SF Board of Supervisors has the time for this resolution. Having lived there 20 years ago and visiting a few times a year since, they certainly have bigger issues to deal with. Cost of living? Homelessness? Sanitation? Drug use? Nah, better to name another entity responsible for all the world's woes so we don't have to do anything to actually improve things. The shit lined streets are totally the terrorist NRA's fault.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:06 am
by senorgrand
Well that will help...the NRA.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:07 am
by max129
This does seem no more than pointless posturing.

There are two NRAs, one still has good training and certifications; the other bleeds bile. I am a member of neither, but I know many rational people who are members of the first NRA and had good cause to remain so.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:09 am
by max129
featureless said:

The shit lined streets ...
I must take issue with this assertion. The shit is in clumps, not a lining. I just returned from another visit to SF. I lived there for years. My former neighborhoods are unrecognizable.

You are 100% right, the city council needs to focus on internal problems.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:30 am
by featureless
max129 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:09 am
featureless said:

The shit lined streets ...
I must take issue with this assertion. The shit is in clumps, not a lining. I just returned from another visit to SF. I lived there for years. My former neighborhoods are unrecognizable.

You are 100% right, the city council needs to focus on internal problems.
But muh virtue signaling! :lol:

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:42 am
by highdesert
The wacky right wing will eat this up, especially since Nancy Pelosi represents SF in the House. This will play on and on and on.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:49 am
by MayhemVI
Let's not lose sight of the fact that the NRA has done plenty to bring this upon themselves.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:51 am
by Eris
So. Now you can be a terrorist for your political positions. Great. This is so going to help.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:08 pm
by featureless
Eris wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:51 am So. Now you can be a terrorist for your political positions. Great. This is so going to help.
Yup. Once moral superiority has resulted in labeling everything on the other side as the "other," we have all lost. We will have created the exclusionary society that we've spent decades (centuries?) trying to undo and all in the name of restricting/obliterating a constitutional right. From the Salem witch trials to the San Francisco red-flag trials. "Burn 'em all" will be screamed from the illusionary security of gun free zones.

It's too bad people don't realize that other folks' rights directly support their rights. It's an all-inclusive deal.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:06 pm
by Eris
Here are the reasons given to declare the NRA a terrorist organizaion:
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association musters its considerable wealth and organizational strength to promote gun ownership and incite gun owners to acts of violence, and
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public about the dangers of gun violence, and
WHEREAS, The leadership of National Rifle Association promotes extremist positions, in defiance of the views of a majority of its membership and the public, and undermine the general welfare, and
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association through its advocacy has armed those individuals who would and have committed acts of terrorism; and
WHEREAS, All countries have violent and hateful people, but only in America do we give them ready access to assault weapons and large-capacity magazines thanks, in large part, to the National Rifle Association’s influence; now, therefore, be it
Let's translate that, shall we?
WHEREAS the NRA promotes gun ownership
WHEREAS the NRA uses statistics we don't like
WHEREAS the NRA promotes positions we don't like
WHEREAS THE NRA opposes gun control
OK. Can we send a letter to the SF board asking them to declare LGC a terrorist organization too? Seems like they'd do it.

I am so tempted to join the NRA now just to stick it to SF. Not tempted enough, but I'm teetering on the edge.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:12 pm
by senorgrand
They should declare the Oakland PD a terror organization.

Oh snap!

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:30 pm
by max129
This is all like Michael Bloomberg, who never travels in public without serious armed guards, but doesn't want anyone else to have firearms.


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Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:30 pm
by Inquisitor
Eris wrote:Here are the reasons given to declare the NRA a terrorist organizaion:
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association musters its considerable wealth and organizational strength to promote gun ownership and incite gun owners to acts of violence, and
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public about the dangers of gun violence, and
WHEREAS, The leadership of National Rifle Association promotes extremist positions, in defiance of the views of a majority of its membership and the public, and undermine the general welfare, and
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association through its advocacy has armed those individuals who would and have committed acts of terrorism; and
WHEREAS, All countries have violent and hateful people, but only in America do we give them ready access to assault weapons and large-capacity magazines thanks, in large part, to the National Rifle Association’s influence; now, therefore, be it
Let's translate that, shall we?

I am so tempted to join the NRA now just to stick it to SF.
WHEREAS the NRA promotes gun ownership
WHEREAS the NRA uses statistics we don't like
WHEREAS the NRA promotes positions we don't like
WHEREAS THE NRA opposes gun control
OK. Can we send a letter to the SF board asking them to declare LGC a terrorist organization too? Seems like they'd do it.

I am so tempted to join the NRA now just to stick it to SF. Not tempted enough, but I'm teetering on the edge.
That’s interesting.


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Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:40 pm
by Marlene
senorgrand wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:12 pm They should declare the Oakland PD a terror organization.

Oh snap!
Sfpd is worse these days

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:11 pm
by highdesert
Heard years ago that the worst one in CA was Bakersfield PD, Kern County deputies and CHP looked down on them.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:13 pm
by senorgrand
Marlene wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:40 pm
senorgrand wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:12 pm They should declare the Oakland PD a terror organization.

Oh snap!
Sfpd is worse these days
Really??? I guess I'm behind the times. I'm still pissed at OPD for the Occupy Wall Street and anti-war protest shit.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:49 pm
by max129
SFPD has very few friends right now.

They are pretty fascist with poor people, they ignore burglary calls altogether, they are very visibly clustered in talking groups on Market Street (obviously chatting and -not- patrolling.) I have seen this myself on all my recent visits.

Several of the high tech businesses are hiring private security because they feel they cannot depend upon the SFPD. I have been in the room when the CFOs talk about it. The tech businesses HATE to hire private security because it is expensive -and- increases their potential liability.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:05 pm
by MayhemVI
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association musters its considerable wealth and organizational strength to promote gun ownership and incite gun owners to acts of violence, and
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public about the dangers of gun violence, and
WHEREAS, The leadership of National Rifle Association promotes extremist positions, in defiance of the views of a majority of its membership and the public, and undermine the general welfare,
"It doesn't matter to them that the semi-auto ban gives jack-booted government thugs more power to take away our constitutional rights, break in our doors, seize our guns, destroy our property, and even injure or kill us," LaPierre wrote in an NRA fundraising letter, according to the April 28, 1995 Washington Post. "Not too long ago, it was unthinkable for federal agents wearing Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms to attack law-abiding citizens... In Clinton's administration, if you have a badge, you have the government's go-ahead to harass, intimidate, even murder law-abiding citizens," he wrote. "Even murder" was underlined.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ns/318915/

Man, it must suck to be a persecuted, un-hinged maniac.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:40 pm
by CDFingers
I'm not sure this is of much use to anyone. Haven't all of them got better things to do? Poseurs, all.

CDFingers

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:53 pm
by DavidMS
It seems that SF has stopped just short of criminalizing taking an unpopular position. I have no love for the NRA but they don't deserve this.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:06 am
by Eris
MayhemVI wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:05 pm
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association musters its considerable wealth and organizational strength to promote gun ownership and incite gun owners to acts of violence, and
WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public about the dangers of gun violence, and
WHEREAS, The leadership of National Rifle Association promotes extremist positions, in defiance of the views of a majority of its membership and the public, and undermine the general welfare,
"It doesn't matter to them that the semi-auto ban gives jack-booted government thugs more power to take away our constitutional rights, break in our doors, seize our guns, destroy our property, and even injure or kill us," LaPierre wrote in an NRA fundraising letter, according to the April 28, 1995 Washington Post. "Not too long ago, it was unthinkable for federal agents wearing Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms to attack law-abiding citizens... In Clinton's administration, if you have a badge, you have the government's go-ahead to harass, intimidate, even murder law-abiding citizens," he wrote. "Even murder" was underlined.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ns/318915/

Man, it must suck to be a persecuted, un-hinged maniac.
I think he is an unhinged manic, and I would go so far as to call the NRA a hate group because of the vile things they say about liberals, but one thing they are not is terrorists. They do not plan and carry out attacks. They do not post messages and videos telling their followers to kill people.

What the SF Board did was exactly the same as what the NRA has been doing: they used hyberbolic language to encourage their followers to hate the other group. In response to the NRA promoting hate, the SF Board decided that it should promote hate, too. This is just another sign of the unravelling of American society.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:23 am
by KlownKannon
This reminds me of the time my home town of Oak Park (suburban Chicago) made the bold move of declaring itself a nuclear weapons-free zone.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:00 am
by VodoundaVinci
The scary thing is that SF is asking other US Cities to follow them. Can you imagine your City declaring you a "Domestic Terrorist" simply because you joined the NRA to be able to shoot at the local premier rifle club that is NRA only?

I gotta get off this planet. It's making me sick now....

VooDoo

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:01 am
by YankeeTarheel
Even Mike Barnacle this morning said this is inanely stupid.