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Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:06 am
by sikacz
featureless wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:05 am It amazes me that the SF Board of Supervisors has the time for this resolution. Having lived there 20 years ago and visiting a few times a year since, they certainly have bigger issues to deal with. Cost of living? Homelessness? Sanitation? Drug use? Nah, better to name another entity responsible for all the world's woes so we don't have to do anything to actually improve things. The shit lined streets are totally the terrorist NRA's fault.
Distraction is a tool.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:31 am
by featureless
I was thinking about this last night. Never good. I find it interesting that San Francisco, despite its often forward thinking and progressive policies on so many issues is, in many ways, an abject failure. If a wealthy GOPer dreamed up a city, SF would not be far off. Economic policies have made it unlivable for just about anybody but the rich. Corporate wealth is deferred to and solicited. The "law" is there to protect the wealth and does little/nothing for/about those living in the streets. The wealthy stroll/Uber about the restaurant and entertainment scene while the servants/service sector swarms across the bridge every day to work for the scraps left over, leaving the City to the wealthy when the shift is done. The only real difference between the conceptual GOP utopia and the City we've got is the virtue signaling by labeling NRA a terrorist organization.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:50 am
by highdesert
featureless wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:31 am I was thinking about this last night. Never good. I find it interesting that San Francisco, despite its often forward thinking and progressive policies on so many issues is, in many ways, an abject failure. If a wealthy GOPer dreamed up a city, SF would not be far off. Economic policies have made it unlivable for just about anybody but the rich. Corporate wealth is deferred to and solicited. The "law" is there to protect the wealth and does little/nothing for/about those living in the streets. The wealthy stroll/Uber about the restaurant and entertainment scene while the servants/service sector swarms across the bridge every day to work for the scraps left over, leaving the City to the wealthy when the shift is done. The only real difference between the conceptual GOP utopia and the City we've got is the virtue signaling by labeling NRA a terrorist organization.
I can see it eventually looking like Palm Springs, Palm Desert, Rancho Mirage, Indian Wells...gated living communities everywhere and the wealthy living behind walls and gates and their armed guards. Sure they'll still have the touristy areas to make money but no tourist buses rumbling through wealthy areas. And I can see them boosting property taxes to get rid of all the poor in SF, they'll justify as getting rid of crime. Who knows it could turn purple eventually.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:04 pm
by DavidMS
highdesert wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:50 am
featureless wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:31 am I was thinking about this last night. Never good. I find it interesting that San Francisco, despite its often forward thinking and progressive policies on so many issues is, in many ways, an abject failure. If a wealthy GOPer dreamed up a city, SF would not be far off. Economic policies have made it unlivable for just about anybody but the rich. Corporate wealth is deferred to and solicited. The "law" is there to protect the wealth and does little/nothing for/about those living in the streets. The wealthy stroll/Uber about the restaurant and entertainment scene while the servants/service sector swarms across the bridge every day to work for the scraps left over, leaving the City to the wealthy when the shift is done. The only real difference between the conceptual GOP utopia and the City we've got is the virtue signaling by labeling NRA a terrorist organization.
I can see it eventually looking like Palm Springs, Palm Desert, Rancho Mirage, Indian Wells...gated living communities everywhere and the wealthy living behind walls and gates and their armed guards. Sure they'll still have the touristy areas to make money but no tourist buses rumbling through wealthy areas. And I can see them boosting property taxes to get rid of all the poor in SF, they'll justify as getting rid of crime. Who knows it could turn purple eventually.
In other words, a neoliberal walled garden.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:28 pm
by Marlene
featureless wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:31 am I was thinking about this last night. Never good. I find it interesting that San Francisco, despite its often forward thinking and progressive policies on so many issues is, in many ways, an abject failure. If a wealthy GOPer dreamed up a city, SF would not be far off. Economic policies have made it unlivable for just about anybody but the rich. Corporate wealth is deferred to and solicited. The "law" is there to protect the wealth and does little/nothing for/about those living in the streets. The wealthy stroll/Uber about the restaurant and entertainment scene while the servants/service sector swarms across the bridge every day to work for the scraps left over, leaving the City to the wealthy when the shift is done. The only real difference between the conceptual GOP utopia and the City we've got is the virtue signaling by labeling NRA a terrorist organization.
This is exactly right

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:21 am
by highdesert
Even the LA Times came out with an editorial calling the SF BOS resolution wrong.
Police shootings and gun violence understandably inspire strong emotions, and elected officials are no exception. But they need to watch their words, especially when those words are contained in legislation or, in this case, pseudo-legislation
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2 ... ganization

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:12 am
by featureless
Between this and Biden's gun confiscation talks, we're not setting ourselves up very well to attract the moderate votes...

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:40 am
by highdesert
featureless wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:12 am Between this and Biden's gun confiscation talks, we're not setting ourselves up very well to attract the moderate votes...
And a chance to attract that 40% of the population that are independents and lean both ways. Biden and his ilk are making themselves more unelectable because of the gun grabbing talk.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:58 am
by max129
featureless wrote:

... If a wealthy GOPer dreamed up a city, SF would not be far off. Economic policies have made it unlivable for just about anybody but the rich. Corporate wealth is deferred to and solicited. The "law" is there to protect the wealth and does little/nothing for/about those living in the streets. ...


Maurice Cowling was the author of "The Politics of British Democracy"

His books were starkly skeptical regarding the actual motivations for political behaviors.


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Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:56 pm
by khlavkalash
As far as I know, no NRA board member has been convicted of terrorism, although Oliver North skirted treason. However I know of one group that had a person convicted of abetting terrorists in their midst: the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, which formerly had Leland Yee.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:08 pm
by featureless
Leeland Yee? You mean that fucker pushing so hard on gun control for us while trafficking illegal arms? That Leland Yee?

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:15 pm
by khlavkalash
Yeah, he tried to sell them to the hilariously named terrorist group MILF.

He was also a leader in anti-video game legislation, if you needed more reasons to hate him.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:40 pm
by featureless
Yup, that's the guy.

Re: San Francisco Designates NRA as a Domestic Terrorist Organization

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:16 pm
by SaneConservative
Not much I can add that hasn’t been said. Just more extreme tantrums by one group being mad at another.