Some people should not even be near a gun much less own or carry one

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Gun Belonged to School Official Who Is Also Student’s Grandmother

A Morrow County, Ohio first grade student was able to pick up and point a loaded gun at a fellow student, saying, “Put your hands behind your back your [sic] arrested,” according to The Columbus Dispatch. The gun was left unattended, possibly for as long as 30 minutes and belongs to Vicky Nelson, the first grade student’s grandmother who is also the school district’s transportation director.

Nelson was allowed to have the gun on school property as part of a Highland Local Schools concealed carry program designed to protect students from potential gun violence or school shootings, by arming select officials.

The student who had the gun pointed at him is the son of the school district’s assistant transportation director.

“He pointed it at her and said ‘Put your hands behind your back your [sic] arrested,’” Christine Scaffidi, the assistant transportation director, told schools Superintendent Dan Freund in an email.

Superintendent Freund is under fire for neglecting to mention the gun was left unattended for up to half an hour, and that Nelson had not only gone to the restroom but driven to another school while the gun was left unattended.

“I’m assuming that the child picked up the gun from behind the desk and had been holding it,” Freund had originally reported.

Now he says he had forgotten about the additional details.

“It wasn’t an attempt to lie or cover up anything,” Freund said. “I’m 70 years old. I forgot about (the emails). Do I get it right all the time? No. Maybe the school board wants to fire me.”

Nelson has been removed from the concealed carry program, “was eventually suspended for three days without pay,” and apologized.
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The Median IQ, by definition, is 100. That means 50% have a lower IQ and 50% have a higher IQ.
67% fall between an IQ of 85 and 115 (2/3rds) meaning 1/6th is above 115, and 1/6th below 85.

Or, as George Carlin put it,
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
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This is the incident that made me change my mind on guns in schools. I no longer support letting teachers carry guns, regardless of how well trained they are. I also think cops should not be allowed to have guns on campus either after a cop's AR-15 was stolen from a school. The chance of a school shooting is simply not high enough to justify the much higher chances of accidents and theft.
109+ recreational uses of firearms
1 defensive use
0 people injured
0 people killed

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I agree that there are people who should not be trusted with a firearm. However, I don’t think a bourgeois oligarchy will be impartial with enforcing such a thing. An armed black man or woman minding his/her own business will be viewed as more of a threat than an open white supremacist.


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Eris wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:29 pm This is the incident that made me change my mind on guns in schools. I no longer support letting teachers carry guns, regardless of how well trained they are. I also think cops should not be allowed to have guns on campus either after a cop's AR-15 was stolen from a school. The chance of a school shooting is simply not high enough to justify the much higher chances of accidents and theft.
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Eris wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:29 pm This is the incident that made me change my mind on guns in schools. I no longer support letting teachers carry guns, regardless of how well trained they are. I also think cops should not be allowed to have guns on campus either after a cop's AR-15 was stolen from a school. The chance of a school shooting is simply not high enough to justify the much higher chances of accidents and theft.
I thought arming teachers was an insane idea from the first moment. Reinforced locking classroom doors with bullet-proof lights in the doors are a far better defense. And classrooms shouldn't be glass on the hall side. The kicker is, it wouldn't look much different than most schools do, anyway. My youngest enters HS this September...
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VoidNail wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:22 am dont forget... we were all kids at one point... we know kids do dumb things... keeping weapons on campus without any supervision is a bad idea.

dumb + guns = bad
Just thinking of all the things that qualify as "dumb" in this formula and they all mix and match, too!:

Being a macho asshole
Impaired--Drunk/drugs
Unsupervised children
Showing off
Enraged
Depressed
Miscogyny
Religious fanatic
White Supremacist

Feel free to add your own items to the "Dumb" in "Dumb + Guns = Bad"
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YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:28 pm To the dumb side let me add:
Doing a back flip while CC to impress the opposite sex--the gun could fall out, discharge and hurt someone, isn't that right, Chase Bishop?
Yes, an FBI Special Agent on vacation in Colorado displayed his back flip skills while concealed carrying in a level one holster. While trying to catch his falling Glock 26/27 pistol, he pressed the trigger and shot a woman. A Liberty University graduate.
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highdesert wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:52 pm
YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:28 pm To the dumb side let me add:
Doing a back flip while CC to impress the opposite sex--the gun could fall out, discharge and hurt someone, isn't that right, Chase Bishop?
Yes, an FBI Special Agent on vacation in Colorado displayed his back flip skills while concealed carrying in a level one holster. While trying to catch his falling Glock 26/27 pistol, he pressed the trigger and shot a woman. A Liberty University graduate.
Bishop? Or the woman went to LU?
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YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:13 pm
highdesert wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:52 pm
YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:28 pm To the dumb side let me add:
Doing a back flip while CC to impress the opposite sex--the gun could fall out, discharge and hurt someone, isn't that right, Chase Bishop?
Yes, an FBI Special Agent on vacation in Colorado displayed his back flip skills while concealed carrying in a level one holster. While trying to catch his falling Glock 26/27 pistol, he pressed the trigger and shot a woman. A Liberty University graduate.
Bishop? Or the woman went to LU?
Bishop went to LU, then an Intelligence officer in military (not a referece to IQ), then FBI.
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