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Re: Non-shooting

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:13 pm
by K9s
Do these OC people who "test the 2A" and annoy cops really think they are helping? I see the videos and cannot believe how brainwashed they are.

One YT video showed OC guys being "harassed" and they decided to OC to the local PD to complain about it. Of course, the cops were not amused when two guys walked in with long guns low-ready and a camera.

Re: Non-shooting

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:58 pm
by Wino
There's been much posted about Texas long rifle OC - the one's raising the most cain have been those that couldn't pass requirements for having a conceal carry license, so they have been carrying rifles openly. No, it doesn't help matters at all - they fuck it up for those that do it lawfully and adds nothing good to the debate. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.

Re: Non-shooting "active shooter" apprehended at Missouri Walmart

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:11 pm
by DispositionMatrix
Slate: The Guy Who Open-Carried an Assault Rifle Into Walmart After El Paso Is America’s Best Gun Control Activist.
He did not carry an assault rifle, but whatever.
The experiment got results. After shoppers panicked and a store employee pulled a fire alarm to trigger an evacuation, the man—his name is Dmitriy Andreychenko—was arrested and charged with making a terrorist threat; prosecutors argue that he recklessly disregarded the possibility that his actions would cause dangerous chaos. If you’ve been following the rise of politically motivated “tactical” open-carry culture in the last six or so years, what happened next was surprising: Walmart—and a number of its competitors, like Kroger, Wegmans, CVS, and Walgreens—have announced that they are “requesting” or “asking” customers not to display firearms in their stores even in states where the practice is legal.

As private entities, the stores have the right to set rules for their property. Walmart says it will take a “a very non-confrontational approach” to enforcing its request, but gun proliferation is a cultural issue as well as a legal one, which is why certain gun enthusiasts have been so eager to make a public show of openly carrying—and why the company’s move, however non-confrontational, carries weight. Gun activists’ goal has been to make ordinary citizens accept the presence of people who could kill at any moment—to deliver the message that visibly armed citizens ought to be part of everyday life, to express the power of the gun-rights movement, and to convey the idea that arming oneself, rather than collectively disarming society, is the proper response to feeling unsafe.

Open carry has been hard to stop at the legal level in states where Republicans control legislatures, which, of late, is most of them. The Supreme Court has not recognized a constitutional right to carry guns in public, yet, but it hasn’t struck down any open-carry laws either. Advocates of gun control (or gun safety, if you prefer) have been attempting for years to do an end-run by persuading chain stores and restaurants—which can be more responsive to national, general-public opinion than legislators in gerrymandered states—to ban open carry, with some success.

Re: Non-shooting

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:24 pm
by YankeeTarheel
He's STILL an asshole! What he did was no different than the proverbial cry of "FIRE!" in a crowded theater--either deliberately or recklessly inciting a panic-driven stampede.

Re: Non-shooting

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:02 am
by K9s
Well, he did get OC banned in a lot of stores. I guess his experiment worked.

Re: Non-shooting

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:49 am
by highdesert
K9s wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:02 am Well, he did get OC banned in a lot of stores. I guess his experiment worked.
Unwittingly he became the poster boy for Everytown and Moms gun grabbers. People do stupid things with cars and trucks all the time, but rarely does it get the same media attention.