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https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... c-festival

Police are responding to reports of an active shooting at the famed Gilroy Garlic Festival in Northern California, leaving an unknown number of casualties and sending terrified visitors running for their lives.

Authorities said the scene was still active, with dozens of officers from around the region on the scene. President Trump said on Twitter that “reports are that shooter has not yet been apprehended. Be careful and safe!”

Witnesses reported hearing multiple rounds fired and that some people were down on the ground. Others said the gunman was armed with a rifle and was dressed in some kind of vest and camouflage fatigues.

Officials reported that three air ambulances were sent to the scene. A medical center in San Jose said it was receiving at least five patients.
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The latest is that one of the 3 dead is the gunman, although police are not convinced he acted alone. Reports are that one person cried "Why are you doing this?!?" and he responded "Because I'm really angry!"

Yet again, the systems fail to identify prevent someone from acting out and killing strangers just "because I'm really angry!" And so, the calls for banning all firearms as if that's a solution will grow.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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ABC affiliate:
Four dead, several injured in shooting rampage at Gilroy Garlic Festival in Northern California
ABC7 News in San Francisco reports, citing law enforcement sources, that a 3-year-old boy was among the victims killed in the shooting.
A city councilman says three people have been killed and 12 others are injured after a shooting at a festival in Gilroy, California.
GILROY, Calif. (KGTV) -- At least five people have been wounded by a gunman who opened fire at a family-friendly festival in Northern California late Sunday afternoon.

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Tragic and even more so when a child is killed.
The gunman was shot dead by police shortly after he began firing, although police are investigating reports that a second suspect may still be at large.
The killer has been identified as 19-year-old Santino William Legan, according to CBS News. Witnesses say he was wearing camouflage, and used a rifle during the attack. Eyewitness Julissa Contreras told NBC that he appeared to be "a white man in his early-30s".

The suspect entered the festival after cutting through a perimeter fence, Gilroy Chief of Police Scot Smithee told reporters. He said witnesses reported that a second suspect may have been involved, possibly in a support role. Officers were already at the site and responded to the shooting in less than a minute, Chief Smithee added.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49147369
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senorgrand wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:05 am I've been to the Festival before. Gilroy is just two hours away.

Something is wrong with people.
Hope police discover a motive, gang, domestic... I expect our state legislators are right now typing up more bills to restrict gun ownership in CA. If the rifle was an "assault weapon" as some reports say, sounds like it was modified just like what the San Bernardino terrorists did.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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highdesert wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:04 pm
senorgrand wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:05 am I've been to the Festival before. Gilroy is just two hours away.

Something is wrong with people.
Hope police discover a motive, gang, domestic... I expect our state legislators are right now typing up more bills to restrict gun ownership in CA. If the rifle was an "assault weapon" as some reports say, sounds like it was modified just like what the San Bernardino terrorists did.
I am gonna guess: White Supremacist.

Also... Maybe actually funding community mental health and substance abuse programs could be suggested instead of more "gun control" in California. The Rs will claim that California is one of the most heavily gun-regulated states, so gun control doesn't work. Rs will suggest mental health is the problem and take away healthcare funding. Ds will pass more gun control laws. Problem not solved.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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DispositionMatrix wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:23 pm Good thing responding officers had not lost their weapons.

Gilroy Police Chief speaks out after his gun, badge stolen
:lol: Shades of the San Luis Obispo Police Chief and the Bay Area FBI agent, it happens. Hope they are forgiving when a CC licensee has their firearm stolen from their vehicle.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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K9s wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:14 pm
highdesert wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:04 pm
senorgrand wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:05 am I've been to the Festival before. Gilroy is just two hours away.

Something is wrong with people.
Hope police discover a motive, gang, domestic... I expect our state legislators are right now typing up more bills to restrict gun ownership in CA. If the rifle was an "assault weapon" as some reports say, sounds like it was modified just like what the San Bernardino terrorists did.
I am gonna guess: White Supremacist.

Also... Maybe actually funding community mental health and substance abuse programs could be suggested instead of more "gun control" in California. The Rs will claim that California is one of the most heavily gun-regulated states, so gun control doesn't work. Rs will suggest mental health is the problem and take away healthcare funding. Ds will pass more gun control laws. Problem not solved.
Apparently? Yes, another one. They found connections to 19th cent Social Darwinism and other White supremacist toxic shit.

so every time some one (and I can think of 2 of our members) talks about the ONE shooting (of Steve Scalise) and they think it balances out all the RIGHT reactionaries' committing murder I get very frustrated.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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Marlene wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:49 pm
shinzen wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:28 pm Sigh. "He said that he used a rifle SKS, a AK-47 type assault rifle. "

https://www.ktvn.com/story/40845854/sho ... -festival2

Oh my. I’m glad he wasn’t using a Garand, AR15 type. That could have been assaultier somehow.
Marlene is right. A rifle Garand, AR15 type would have been much worse, I am sure.

Seriously? "Gilroy Police Chief Scot Smithee said during a press conference that Legan bought a gun legally in Nevada on July 9th, but he did not say where. He said that Legan used a rifle SKS, a AK-47 type assault rifle...."

Maybe a "Type 56" (Chinese SKS) but not "AK-47 type" and certainly not an "assault rifle". I guess those California-legal SKS are next on the ban list?
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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More info about the shooter. Another white supremacist shooting.
The 19-year old believed to have slaughtered three people, including a 6-year old boy, at California’s Gilroy Garlic Festival posted about a book popular with white supremacists minutes before opening fire with an assault-style rifle.

Santino William Legan (NCRM will not use his name again if possible) posted to his now-deleted Instagram account a photo of the festival, urging followers to read what The Daily Beast is describing as “a 19th-century, proto-fascist book.”

“The book, which is repeatedly recommended alongside works by Hitler and other fascists on forums like 8chan, is full of anti-Semitic, sexist and white supremacist ideology. The book glorifies ‘Aryan’ men, condemns inter-marriage between races and defends violence based on bogus eugenicist tropes.”

The suspected shooter is also believed to have shot to death a 13-year old girl, and a man in his 20’s.

“Why overcrowd towns and pave more open space to make room for hordes of mestizos and Silicon Valley white tw**s?” the suspect wrote in his Instagram post.

CNN explains a “‘mestizo’ is a person of mixed descent, usually white and Hispanic, or white and American Indian.”

The book, which NCRM also will not name, was “published in the late 1800s” and “has been described as a white supremacist text that promotes anarchy, vilifies Christianity and calls Jesus the ‘true Prince of Evil.’ The natural order, according to the book, is a world at war in which the strong must vanquish the weak, and white men must rule over those of color.”

NBC News calls the book “a staple among neo-Nazis and white supremacists on extremist sites.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/gilro ... neo-nazis/
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