hondo2K0 wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:46 am 52 % of Border Patrol Agents are Hispanic but do continue with Nazi narative

YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:49 am More "What aboutism?" from Hondo

Read the LAW:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158

Mexico is NOT a "safe" country under US law. Ask anyone who's been to Mexico City! You have to be escorted by armed guards in armored cars EVERYWHERE!

Educating yourself will really help.

If you don't think "hate crimes" are terrorists, then you've been IGNORING what the murderers are trying to do. Dylann Roof DELIBERATELY intended to start a race war.
The KKK's 150 year history has been one of terrorism from the day Nathan Bedford Forrest founded it to the rallies and deliberate attempts to foment riots in 2019.

Only someone excusing racist murderers would claim they are NOT terrorists!

"2)Exceptions
(A)Safe third country
Paragraph (1) shall not apply to an alien if the Attorney General determines that the alien may be removed, pursuant to a bilateral or multilateral agreement, to a country (other than the country of the alien’s nationality or, in the case of an alien having no nationality, the country of the alien’s last habitual residence) in which the alien’s life or freedom would not be threatened on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, and where the alien would have access to a full and fair procedure for determining a claim to asylum or equivalent temporary protection, unless the Attorney General finds that it is in the public interest for the alien to receive asylum in the United States.

(A)Eligibility
The Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General may grant asylum to an alien who has applied for asylum in accordance with the requirements and procedures established by the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General under this section if the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General determines that such alien is a refugee within the meaning of section 1101(a)(42)(A) of this title."

Bisbee wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:35 pm hondo2KO,

You clearly are intelligent and have thought about the issues in your replies. But it appears you are more interested in defending a point of view rather than understand the issue at hand and so have poured all your intellectual capabilities to building a fortress upon a mole-hill.

Nuance, by definition, is hard to grasp. Throwing one’s body onto the bulwarks, well any hormonal teen could do that.

YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:16 am

hondo2K0 wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:50 am Nope they did not come legally
Nothing is being done to those children by ICE or CBP
In the end parents are responsible for making sure that their children are safe and sound

So he was terrorist

Reminds me of guy who opened fire on rep. Playing baseball

1) if you enter the USA and ask for asylum you're not here illegally UNDER CURRENT FEDERAL LAW!
2) You're right nothing's being done to, oops, FOR, these children by ICE and CBP and their private prisons. They are not being washed, given soap, toothbrushes, toothpaste, beds, clean clothing, blankets, clean water, decent food, protection from the elements, a chance to play, etc. A whole LOT of nothing!
3) I'll bet you're the sort of person who says "if you don't like what's happening here in America, love it or leave it!" Well, these folks don't love the gangs WE sent to their countries. They don't love the drought. They don't love the sex traffickers. They don't love the drug dealers. They don't love the police and border patrols in league with the sex traffickers and drug dealers. They don't love their corrupted government, or their phony "courts." They really don't love that their children are in both physical and nutritional danger every day. So they left those horrible conditions, conditions that not only WE, the USA brought on them, but that we, especially Trump, is making worse by cutting off even the aid that help them there, in his sadistic and moronic idea that the only way to deal with these dirt-poor nations is with a big stick.
My youngest was born in the Northern Triangle. I shudder to think what he, at 14, would be facing right now if he was still there. Stunted growth, little if any education, possibly recruited into gangs, on threat of death--a horrible life. I see people struggling to get out of the NT who look a lot like him, could be relatives, cousins, etc. and it makes my blood run cold to see the vicious neo-nazi ways they are treated.

They aren't "the other". They are people, just like you and me, who, in utter desperation, are trying to PROTECT their children. They aren't "irresponsible"--they are REFUGEES!

Naturally, with all the dozens of terrorist attacks by racists, fascists, White supremacists, the only one YOU cite is the one, failed attack where only the perp died.
Charleston? Silence.
Parkland? Silence.
Pittsburgh Synagogue? Silence

According to the ADL, almost ALL of the 50 terrorist murders in the United States in 2018 were committed by...RIGHT WING RACIST EXTREMISTS!
https://www.adl.org/media/12480/download

Yet the only one YOU cite is the failed baseball game attack, where only the perp died.

That tells me EXACTLY where YOU stand on all this with your typical right-wing "What About?ism"--defending Trumpism, another name for Fascism.

hondo2K0 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:28 am

YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:49 am More "What aboutism?" from Hondo

Read the LAW:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158

Mexico is NOT a "safe" country under US law. Ask anyone who's been to Mexico City! You have to be escorted by armed guards in armored cars EVERYWHERE!

Educating yourself will really help.

If you don't think "hate crimes" are terrorists, then you've been IGNORING what the murderers are trying to do. Dylann Roof DELIBERATELY intended to start a race war.
The KKK's 150 year history has been one of terrorism from the day Nathan Bedford Forrest founded it to the rallies and deliberate attempts to foment riots in 2019.

Only someone excusing racist murderers would claim they are NOT terrorists!

"2)Exceptions
(A)Safe third country
Paragraph (1) shall not apply to an alien if the Attorney General determines that the alien may be removed, pursuant to a bilateral or multilateral agreement, to a country (other than the country of the alien’s nationality or, in the case of an alien having no nationality, the country of the alien’s last habitual residence) in which the alien’s life or freedom would not be threatened on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, and where the alien would have access to a full and fair procedure for determining a claim to asylum or equivalent temporary protection, unless the Attorney General finds that it is in the public interest for the alien to receive asylum in the United States.

(A)Eligibility
The Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General may grant asylum to an alien who has applied for asylum in accordance with the requirements and procedures established by the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General under this section if the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General determines that such alien is a refugee within the meaning of section 1101(a)(42)(A) of this title."

Mexico is safe country it does crime rate problem. But following that logic anybody form Southside Chicago would be eligible to ask for asylum in Canada or Sweden.
Are you saying everybody and their mother are driven in armored cars and protected by armed guards? Or you saying some people?
For your information some people in the USA are driven all the time in armored cars and guarded by armored guards, does that makes USA unsafe place?

It is hate crime , what this idiot done it was an act of terrorism and he played stupid game and he won stupid prize.

Once again they are no more refugees than I am King of Nova Scotia and New England. Unless President grants them status of citizens of the countries whit special status no I-94 for them.

Have you ever entered US at land POE ? if you did you would notice they are always 50-100 yards inside of USA , so when you present at POE you already committed arrestable offence and you have right to ask for asylum US keeps right to deny your request and to detain you while your case is adjucated .