Super cavitating .30 cal round

CDFingers

Super cavitating .30 cal round

1 by CDFingers

13 FEET penetration into gel.

Although the results are noted as unofficial, DSG Inc and Edwin Sarkissian have just posted a video of what they are calling a World Record Gel Penetration Test. Using DSG’s specially designed bullets that are designed to supercavitate, the below video shows a 7.62×51 projectile passing through 13 feet of clear ballistic gel before hitting a watermelon. As a comparison, a “standard” round was fired into the gel demonstrating a devastating temporary cavity.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/201 ... tion-test/

Vid and moar pics @ link.

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Hiker

Re: Super cavitating .30 cal round

2 by Hiker

I'm confused. Is the super cavitator the first round fired in the gel?

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senorgrand

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3 by senorgrand

lead free I assume?

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SailDesign

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4 by SailDesign

My question is "Why?"

Why would you need something capable of that?
Or even WANT it....

"We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo.

senorgrand

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5 by senorgrand

"Person, woman, man, camera, TV."

SubRosa

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6 by SubRosa

Thass' some pig!

SR

She came in thru the bathroom window...

SailDesign

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7 by SailDesign

senorgrand wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 4:29 pm

That'll do it......

(Question still stands, but that's a good one. )

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senorgrand

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8 by senorgrand

I can't see it for any other purpose, except maybe terminators

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Bullitt68

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9 by Bullitt68

SailDesign wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 3:57 pm My question is "Why?"

Why would you need something capable of that?
Or even WANT it....

Walls and barricades.

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SailDesign

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10 by SailDesign

Bullitt68 wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 6:34 pm
SailDesign wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 3:57 pm My question is "Why?"

Why would you need something capable of that?
Or even WANT it....
Walls and barricades.

The conventional wisdom of "Be sure of your target" would seem to preclude that, no?

"We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo.

Bullitt68

Re: Super cavitating .30 cal round

11 by Bullitt68

SailDesign wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 8:41 pm
Bullitt68 wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 6:34 pm
SailDesign wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 3:57 pm My question is "Why?"

Why would you need something capable of that?
Or even WANT it....
Walls and barricades.
The conventional wisdom of "Be sure of your target" would seem to preclude that, no?

Well I don't see how it works with hunting. I sure wouldn't want to use it for self defense either.
But if you were attacking a fortified target - yes.
One doesn't want to shoot through animals or human perps.

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CDFingers

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12 by CDFingers

Air is a fluid. I would like to see long range accuracy tests of this vs standard bt bullets.

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Marlene

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13 by Marlene

Those rules about knowing your target and what’s beyond don’t apply to military forces on imperial adventures. Rules only apply to fellow whites who might win or have a relative who knows a judge. Just ask Winston Churchill about poison gas in the colonies.

Bang

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14 by Bang

SailDesign wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 3:57 pm My question is "Why?"

Why would you need something capable of that?
Or even WANT it....

eelj

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15 by eelj

Looks like it would be the ticket for taking out a rogue watermelon hiding behind a big vat of jello. One of the comments on the ttag article mentioned 20 bucks a pop, I think only government agencies will be buying them.

lurker

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16 by lurker

y'all be sure to line up nice an straight, now, hear?

i'm retired. what's your excuse?

Stiff

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17 by Stiff

The projectile can't supercavitate its way through solid object, it can only do it in liquids. A gel block is basically a very dense liquid. Against solid objects it would have better penetration, but not much better than a standard armor piercing bullet.

The revolutionary use would be under water, it would go insanely farther than regular bullets without requiring a special rifle. I can totally see this as part of the arsenal for frogmen and NAVY SEAL operators.

Glad that federal government is boring again.

SailDesign

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18 by SailDesign

Stiff wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 5:16 pm The projectile can't supercavitate its way through solid object, it can only do it in liquids. A gel block is basically a very dense liquid. Against solid objects it would have better penetration, but not much better than a standard armor piercing bullet.

The revolutionary use would be under water, it would go insanely farther than regular bullets without requiring a special rifle. I can totally see this as part of the arsenal for frogmen and NAVY SEAL operators.

Interesting thought....

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Bullitt68

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19 by Bullitt68

Do seals really shoot at people under water? I guess maybe once in awhile but it wouldn't be worth the money.

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wooglin

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20 by wooglin

Bullitt68 wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 11:58 pm Do seals really shoot at people under water? I guess maybe once in awhile but it wouldn't be worth the money.

Have you never seen Thunderball?

lurker

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21 by lurker

Bullitt68 wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 11:58 pm Do seals really shoot at people under water? I guess maybe once in awhile but it wouldn't be worth the money.

walruses too.

i'm retired. what's your excuse?

Bullitt68

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22 by Bullitt68

lurker wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 12:56 pm
Bullitt68 wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 11:58 pm Do seals really shoot at people under water? I guess maybe once in awhile but it wouldn't be worth the money.
walruses too.

Well then, I guess I'll buy a couple an see how well my gun shoots underwater. HoHoHo

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CDFingers

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23 by CDFingers

Air is a fluid. I would expect to see differences from, say, ELD-X, boat tail, or what not.

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SailDesign

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24 by SailDesign

CDFingers wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 10:13 pm Air is a fluid. I would expect to see differences from, say, ELD-X, boat tail, or what not.

CDFingers

A compressible fluid, though. Water and gel are basically incompressible for most practical purposes. No idwa what difference that would make, but it is worth noting.

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offensivename

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25 by offensivename

Cavitating involves turning the liquid medium you're traveling through into a gas. While air behaves like a fluid its pretty hard (or pretty easy depending on how you look at it) to turn a gas into a gas.

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