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I would love to see Pete win, nominate Bernie as Sec of Labor and nominate Warren to the SEC. Biden could be vp, cause that's what he does.
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I would love to see Pete win, nominate Bernie as Sec of Labor and nominate Warren to the SEC. Biden could be vp, cause that's what he does.
I was also thinking of who would be good in a non-GOP cabinet. Biden as VP or Sec of State or something isn't terrible. He does know a lot of people.
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Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., released new details on Friday about his confidential work with McKinsey & Co. a decade ago at the same time he escalated calls for the consulting firm to release him from a nondisclosure agreement.

Buttigieg, who is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, faced repeated questions from voters and the media this week about what he did for McKinsey between 2007 and 2010. McKinsey has received increasing criticism from the public for its past work with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, authoritarian governments and opioid manufacturers. The newly released details don’t include the names of Buttigieg’s clients but are the most detailed accounting yet of how he spent his time with McKinsey, which consults for companies and governments around the world.

In 2007, according to Buttigieg’s campaign, Buttigieg’s first project for McKinsey as an associate involved working for a nonprofit health insurance provider for three months, “undertaking on-the-job training and performing analytical work as part of a team identifying savings in administration and overhead costs.” In 2008, Buttigieg spent six months in the Toronto area for a grocery and retail chain, “analyzing the effects of price cuts on various combinations of items across their hundreds of stores.”

That same year, Buttigieg briefly worked in Chicago for a division of a consumer goods retail chain “on a project to investigate opportunities for selling more energy-efficient home products in their stores.” He then took time off to volunteer full time for a Democratic campaign for governor in Indiana. Between 2008 and 2009, Buttigieg worked “mostly in Connecticut” to help produce a report called “Unlocking Energy Efficiency in the U.S. Economy” on behalf of the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Energy, the Natural Resources Defense Council and “other nonprofit environmental groups and several utility companies.”

In 2009, Buttigieg consulted “mostly in California” for an environmental nonprofit group “on a study to research opportunities in energy efficiency and renewable energy.” That same year, he was stationed in Washington and made visits to Iraq and Afghanistan to serve “a U.S. government department in a project focused on increasing employment and entrepreneurship in those countries’ economies.” Between 2009 and 2010 in Washington, Buttigieg “served a logistics and shipping provider working to identify and analyze potential new sources of revenue” as his final assignment for McKinsey.

Buttigieg said this was the complete list of his clients “to the best of my recollection” but added that he hoped McKinsey would release a full list. McKinsey did not respond to requests for comment. The two-term mayor has repeatedly asked the consulting firm to drop the NDA.

“I am today reiterating my request that McKinsey release me from this agreement, and I again make clear that I authorize them to release the full list of clients I was assigned to serve,” Buttigieg said in a statement. “This company must recognize the importance of transparency in the exceptional case of a former employee becoming a competitive candidate for the U.S. presidency.

“I understand why some are calling on me to break the agreement. But, it’s important to me to keep my word and commitments. I know the American people also want a president who they can trust to do the same.”
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He's been running number one in the Iowa polls so he's the subject of attacks. Warren has been after him to release the names of his clients as she's been asked for names of clients she represented. This will also come up with Deval Patrick who worked for Bain Capital and according to reports signed an NDA.
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Dems need to stop trashing each other, it only helps #traitortrump. Wonder who else is nit pickin him about it?
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Dems need to stop trashing each other, it only helps #traitortrump. Wonder who else is nit pickin him about it?
Bloomberg came in and pays people to trash Warren and Bernie. It was gonna happen eventually.
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I simply cannot vote for Mayor Pete. Why? Is it his position on guns? Well, yes that, but also that this supposedly smart guy just said the UK is in a “very unique situation.” Very Unique, Pete? Really? Grammar Disqualification!

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I just saw this yesterday, I don’t know how long it has been there. Somebody is really enthusiastic about Pete.
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Low chance he gets the nomination. African-Americans do not trust him. He is angling for a cabinet position, VP, or to (hopefully) run for Indiana governor.
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He probably should have made a play for higher office after one term as mayor, his reserve duties probably pushed him off track. He's highly intelligent and is good on the debate stage but he needs more experience, a run for and win as governor would poke the Republicans and the Pences and give him what he needs for higher office.

He's young but the new president of the EU Council Charles Michel is also young 43, but he won parliamentary office when he was 24, was a party leader and then prime minister of Belgium for five years. His peers (other EU heads of governments) elected him as council president.
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The moment served as a window into the anxieties this young generation has about the inaction of older political leaders on major issues like the climate crisis -- and how much of that anger is now being trained squarely on Buttigieg, who, while their peer in age, has offered moderate views that often align him with older voters. Increasingly, their opposition to Buttigieg is turning to fury, fueled by a boisterous online ecosystem of progressives who are driving anti-Buttigieg commentary and memes. They view him as beholden to corporate interests, unable to win over the diverse Democratic base that these activists take pride in, and disinterested in the systemic change they believe the country desperately needs on issues like the influence of big money on politics and climate change and systemic racism.

These narratives have persisted in spite of what his campaign points to as evidence to the contrary, including that Buttigieg has proposed plans to address those very issues such as a climate change plan to cut emissions to zero by 2050 and a proposal to address systemic racism that he calls the Douglass Plan. Buttigieg supporters say the criticism has become unhinged, with some progressives eager to latch on to virtually any negative narrative about Buttigieg whether it is true or not.
Since he jumped into the race, Buttigieg has gone from a little-known, small-town mayor, to representative of the Democratic Party vision has of itself as an inclusive party to, now, the arch-nemesis of certain progressive advocates.

The intense heat on Buttigieg from some corners of his party comes as he rises in both early state and national polls and vies with Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren for a slice of the college-educated electorate. Both candidates have upped their contrasts with each other in recent weeks as the Iowa caucuses near. "The nature of presidential politics is the better you do, the more you are tested," said David Axelrod, a former senior adviser to President Barack Obama and chief strategist of his campaigns. "Buttigieg has made a pretty remarkable progress in 2019. Now he is being tested as a legitimate top tier candidate and we'll see how he handles it." "It is an inevitable part of this process," he added.
The distaste among some gay Democrats to Buttigieg has been the subject of a fair amount of analysis -- even raising the interest of Tim Miller, a moderate gay Republican and former Romney aide who has quizzically observed what he believes is a disproportionate amount of vitriol directed toward Buttigieg.

"They're the meanest," Miller said. "Within the gay community, unfortunately, I think it's a lot of resentment that Pete does not represent the gay ideal -- the pre-conceived notions about what a gay President would act like." "The idea that he's a closet Republican is absurd, but I think because of his nature as a mild-mannered, traditional-acting religious man, that it's easier to demean him as being Republican lite," he added. But for others, the part of Buttigieg's identity that is the most salient is not that he is gay, but that he is white, which they believe has insulated him from the kind of scrutiny that other candidates have been subjected to.
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No group is monolithic. However, you notice that the article above quotes a gay Republican telling CNN that gay Dems say mean things about Pete. I call bullshit on that and on CNN for the constant trash "news articles" like that about Pete and Bernie. Or quoting Black Republicans claiming Dems say this or that about Harris or Booker.
Tim Miller, a moderate gay Republican and former Romney aide who has quizzically observed what he believes is a disproportionate amount of vitriol directed toward Buttigieg. "They're the meanest," Miller said. "Within the gay community, unfortunately, I think it's a lot of resentment that Pete does not represent the gay ideal -- the pre-conceived notions about what a gay President would act like."
A gay Republican in this GOP is already suspect.
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No group is monolithic. However, you notice that the article above quotes a gay Republican telling CNN that gay Dems say mean things about Pete. I call bullshit on that and on CNN for the constant trash "news articles" like that about Pete and Bernie. Or quoting Black Republicans claiming Dems say this or that about Harris or Booker.
Tim Miller, a moderate gay Republican and former Romney aide who has quizzically observed what he believes is a disproportionate amount of vitriol directed toward Buttigieg. "They're the meanest," Miller said. "Within the gay community, unfortunately, I think it's a lot of resentment that Pete does not represent the gay ideal -- the pre-conceived notions about what a gay President would act like."
A gay Republican in this GOP is already suspect.
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but I've never understood them. People have different styles, so what if Peter doesn't meet someones pre-conceived image. The groups going after Pete remind me of the Tea Party going after Republicans.
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Log Cabin Republicans are an embarrassment. Power seeking, money grubbing collaborators.

Of course, simply my opinion. There might be good people on both sides.

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Backlash to Pete Buttigieg’s Christmas tweet and the religious divide it exposes

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This Christmas, South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg sought to draw his followers to a sacred story that helps shape the presidential candidate’s worldview and politics. But the pushback he received — mostly from conservative Christians — illuminates how one of the burgeoning culture wars during the 2020 election is the meaning of Christianity.

Buttigieg, an Episcopalian who often discusses his faith on the campaign trail, sought to tie the Nativity story to some of the issues dominating political discourse. He tweeted:

“Today I join millions around the world in celebrating the arrival of divinity on earth, who came into this world not in riches but in poverty, not as a citizen but as a refugee. No matter where or how we celebrate, merry Christmas."

Since the earliest days of his campaign, a key plank in Buttigieg’s appeal to voters has been that conservative evangelicals and Catholics — and the party that they overwhelmingly support — have gotten some major components of Christianity and morality wrong.

During a March CNN town hall, Buttigieg wondered aloud how Vice President Pence, a conservative Christian who built a national profile by supporting legislation critics said would discriminate against gay people, could support Trump, who used to be a staple of New York tabloids for his playboy lifestyle.

“How could he allow himself to become the cheerleader of the porn star presidency? Is it that he stopped believing in scripture when he started believing in Donald Trump?” Buttigieg said. “I don’t know, I don’t know.”

And during an April speech at a fundraiser for an LGBT rights group, Buttigieg pushed back on those who believed that being a gay Christian was an oxymoron. “My marriage to Chasten has made me a better man and yes, Mr. Vice President, it has moved me closer to God,” Buttigieg said.

Criticism of Buttigieg and other candidates on the left who discuss their faith, such as Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and former vice president Joe Biden, has simmered for a while among those who find left-leaning interpretations of Christianity problematic. But the response to Buttigieg’s depiction of Christ on Christmas magnifies how the war over Christianity could be a prominent battle in 2020 as voters try to shape the moral future of America through policy.

Some wondered whether Buttigieg’s decision not to say the name Jesus — something he rarely does when discussing his Christian values — was a way to minimize the centrality of Christ in Christmas.

Are you unable to say “Jesus Christ”?
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And others disagreed with Buttigieg that Jesus, who the Bible teaches was born in a manger to Mary, the wife of a carpenter, was impoverished.

“Who came into this world not in riches, but in poverty, not as a citizen, but as a refugee”? When did you come up with THAT load of crap? Joseph was NOT a poor man, and Jesus did NOT come into this world as a refugee from heaven. Please stop.
— Dr.Darrell Scott (@PastorDScott) December 26, 2019


Joseph and Mary went to their ancestral home in Bethlehem for a census. In no sense did Jesus “come into this world as a refugee.” There’s also no reason to think that Joseph was particularly impoverished. So nothing about this tweet is correct. https://t.co/KNOCzvb4dc
— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) December 26, 2019


But it was perhaps Buttigieg’s classification of Jesus as a refugee — a common line among the Christian left — that received almost immediate pushback from evangelicals.

Jesus was not born into suffering. His earthly family was neither poor nor refugees. His story is not a metaphor to push open borders policies here and around the world, @PeteButtigieg.

It’s a guide for life and death, a message of hope beyond this world. https://t.co/ZO8v15tS61
— JD Rucker (@JDRucker) December 26, 2019


Jesus was not a refugee, you liar https://t.co/JELXmprbvO
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) December 25, 2019


The citizenship status of Jesus is of such debate because it has real implications for how Christians on both sides of the aisle conduct policy moving forward.

The State Department announced in September that the Trump administration would accept significantly fewer refugees over the next 12 months. The limit at the time was 30,000, but the president lowered that number to 18,000. The president has also made headlines for his attitude toward refugees, ranging from his administration’s decision to detain and separate migrant families from Central America, many of whom were fleeing violence, to regularly attacking a Democratic lawmaker who came to the United States as a refugee, telling her to “go back” to her birth country.

Liberal Christians like Buttigieg argue that Trump supporters would reject Jesus, who according to some interpretations of scripture fled Bethlehem for Egypt as a toddler to escape death, from seeking refuge in the United States. But many conservative Christians reject the belief that Jesus was a refugee since both his birthplace and Egypt were a part of the Roman Empire. This difference in understanding appears to shape how different Christians view refugees. Only 25 percent of white evangelicals — a group that overwhelmingly backs Republican politicians — believe that America has a responsibility to welcome refugees, according to a 2018 Pew Research Center survey. More than 60 percent of black protestant Christians — a group that overwhelmingly supports Democratic politicians — believe that the United States has a responsibility to admit refugees.

One of the most prominent economic — and morality — debates in 2020 will be about income inequality and the quality of life of Americans in low-income households. Questions about the globally disadvantaged fleeing war and violence or government persecution due to their identities are not likely to die down, either. And while the issue of same-sex marriage appears to be settled law, questions about the rights and freedoms of LGBT Americans are not yet settled.

For all the talk about how the 2020 election could shape the future of health care, education and the economy in America, Christians in politics and policy are debating how interpretations of their faith will shape policy and people’s understanding of Christianity for generations to come.
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I distrust Mayor Pete as he is a corporatist in the mold of Clinton, and he doesn't, in my eyes, have nearly enough experience to be the .pres- the mayor of a town of 100k does not give one the executive experience to run something as complex as the entire federal government.

That all said, now this surfaces.
https://www.theroot.com/mayor-pete-s-in ... 1840727624
In January 2012, Pete Buttigieg stepped into the South Bend, Ind., mayor’s office after winning the city’s first open mayoral election in 24 years. South Bend had three African Americans in visible high level and public leadership positions: Mayor’s Assistant Lynn Coleman; Fire Chief Howard Buchanon and Police Chief Darryl Boykins.Within three months, all three would be gone.
No one knows why Buttigieg pressured Boykins to resign and subsequently demoted him. The only thing we know is Buttigieg’s explanation that Boykins was the target of a federal investigation is not true. It was never true. Still, Buttigieg—or proxies from his campaign—continue to repeat it.
When Buttigieg became mayor in 2012, the SBPD was 11 percent black (29 of 244 officers). There were 28 black officers in 2013; 26 in 2014, and by the time Buttigieg announced his run for president, the South Bend police force was six percent black, with 15 black officers.
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He doesn't have enough experience, having been a mayor is more experience than the current occupant of the WH but it's still not enough and his track record is mixed. JFK was 43 when he was elected but had served in the US House and US Senate. A different time, far less partisan and of course being the son of Joseph P Kennedy didn't hurt. Buttigieg is very bright and should run for other political office, but after Super Tuesday he'll probably fade.
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I don't think he will win the nomination, but I would vote for him if he did. No perfect option, but it doesn't matter this time.
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Mick Baccio, who served as former South Bend, Ind., mayor Pete Buttigieg's cybersecurity chief, has left the campaign citing “fundamental philosophical differences.” His departure comes just weeks before the Iowa caucuses, the kickoff to the 2020 primary season.

I left due to "fundamental philosophical differences with the campaign management regarding the architecture and scope of the information security program,” Baccio told Shannon Vavra at CyberScoop.

“Mick resigned earlier this month and we thank him for the work he did to protect our campaign against attacks,” Chris Meagher, national press secretary for the Buttigieg campaign, said in a statement. “Our campaign has retained a new security firm and continues to be committed to digital security and protecting against cyber attacks.”

The news was first reported by the Wall Street Journal.

The Buttigieg campaign declined to name the firm it has hired to fill the gap left by Baccio. The Buttigieg campaign also has a contract with Massachusetts cybersecurity firm Carbon Black.
Baccio joined the campaign in July, making Buttigieg the first and only 2020 Democrat known to have brought a chief information security officer on staff. Baccio was a former Obama administration cyber official.

His departure comes as security officials are warning that hacking attempts against the 2020 elections will be even greater than in 2016 when Russian agents hacked the email of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and breached the Democratic National Committee's servers.

“The threats as we go into 2020 are frankly more sophisticated,” Shelby Pierson, the intelligence community’s first election threat executive, said Tuesday. “This is not a Russia-only problem. [It’s] Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, nonstate hacktivists who all have opportunity, means and potentially motive to come after the United States in the 2020 election…This is a top national security priority.”
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my guess is that many swing dems will be turned off by the sanders/warren debacle and will turn to Biden and mayor Pete. this could seal the nomination for biden.
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I like Mayor Pete but I don't want to lose two years while he learns the ropes. That's why I'm with Biden. Though I'll take anyone handed to me who can end this national nightmare.

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senorgrand wrote:
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my guess is that many swing dems will be turned off by the sanders/warren debacle and will turn to Biden and mayor Pete. this could seal the nomination for biden.
I think the Q1 fundraising numbers and early voting states will tell us. No one really knows yet. Maybe it helps Yang? No one knows.
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Buttigieg camp invites more super PAC help

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/0 ... pac-111217

A senior adviser for Pete Buttigieg’s campaign tweeted what appeared to be a signal for help to super PAC supporters on Wednesday, a notable injection of big-money politicking into a Democratic presidential race that has been defined in large part by opposition to super PACs and their influence.
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Dumb tweet...smells like coordination, which is a no-no
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He doesn't have enough experience, having been a mayor is more experience than the current occupant of the WH but it's still not enough and his track record is mixed. JFK was 43 when he was elected but had served in the US House and US Senate. A different time, far less partisan and of course being the son of Joseph P Kennedy didn't hurt. Buttigieg is very bright and should run for other political office, but after Super Tuesday he'll probably fade.
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